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Last Edited: 2009-06-14 13:07:18
June 10 2009 17:20 GMT
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My subjective guide on Starcraft and Teamliquid history. Please note that I omit the newest events, because most people already know them and they are well described in the news section. I mostly focus on the interesting and forgotten parts, as well as the biggest fails and the biggest victories.

1. The beginning and background

To start the history of Starcraft, one has to go back to the previous Blizzard game - Warcraft 2. It was the first RTS game to introduce "super VGA"graphics (aka 640:480 resolution). You can laugh now, but at that time it was something big (and the game still looks pretty well), especially in comparison to Command and Conquer with it's crappy 320:240 resolution. Warcraft 2 also had great music and sound effects - if you clicked on units they would make funny sounds, critters would explode etc. But the most important thing is that Warcraft 2 could be played on LAN. With 8 players! It had such good IPX support that professional network architects would often use it to test if the LAN is built properly ;-) (and maybe other tools was Doom).

What Warcraft 2 lacked was the possibility to play on-line easily. Players had to use other ways to play over the relatively young Internet - a tool called Kali. In times of Hamachi it might sound easy, but it wasn't as easy. In fact you had to pay to play via Kali! It was a service which allowed to connect by means of modem to a special "server" that would allow you to play with people from other countries/states without having to pay as for an international call. Yes, otherwise you'd have to pay A LOT.

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StarCraft precursor - Warcraft 2; believe me or not, these graphics were beautiful at their time.

Despite its drawbacks the Kali community was really strong and organized few competitive ladders, but what the game lacked was diversity. Players complained that both races were very similar. Nowadays most people write that the races in Warcraft 2 are the same, but it is not true - Orcs have a spell called Blood Lust, which gives them a big advantage over humans. Consequently everyone plays orc till this day...

After the success of Warcraft 2, Blizzard started to work on their new game - Starcraft.
The subject of our love, and this guide. The alpha version was really, really exotic and different than the game that we play today.

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Protoss fighting Zurg. WTF

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Star crap?

After the first few screenshots were published the community went mad - it was just "Warcraft in space". It's not even the crappy looks, the races were still very similar.
After some thought, Bob Fitch, the main programmer of Starcraft asked the team to give him 3 months and he completely rewrote the game engine - so that it would allow not only much better graphics, but also special abilities/effects such as blind, mind control, mutalisk splash and so on. In addition, during the development of StarCraft the Warcraft "map making rage" started - most gamers without a proper Internet connection (or without any connection at all; yes there were dark times without Internets!!!) would make their own Warcraft maps. At first using the normal editor, but then by means of third party tools such as Puddraft or War2xEd. Why is it so important? These tools were so good, that reportedly Blizzard started using them in-house.. and decided to make a better editor for their next game! :-)

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This is how the maps were made back in the day. Notice the lack of details...

The work on the game was quite slow - the previous Blizzard games (Warcraft2, Diablo) were delivered on time - Blizzard still didnt have the reputation of a company that "publishes games when they are made" (which is good, when compared to companies like EA). As a consequence of the delay a group called "Operation Can't Wait any Longer" has emerged on the Blizzard forums... and had to wait for few months anyway. Have you ever thought what does "Operation CWAL" cheat code stand for? It speeds up the time of constructing everything :-) There is also other code, "there is no cow level", but it's important to Diablo players...

At that time, Starcraft became StarCraft (capital C), because apparently there is a brand of cars called Starcraft.

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No wonder that GM went bankrupt. If you try google searching for Starcraft, you wont find any pictures or websites about their "Starcraft" vans.

2. The beta
Before publishing StarCraft, Blizzard decided to make a beta test in order to search for bugs in the game and balance it. Nowadays it might sound as a typical move made by any other publisher (apart from EA), but at that time it was revolutionary. Probably only Windows 95 received more beta testing - 1000(!) lucky people were given the chance to play and change the game before its release. Beta-testers competed the ladder; tested the interface and the units- some of which were removed; some of which changed their abilities. For example, during the first days of StarCraft evolution one of the main Zerg units were the Zerg queens! They had the ability to attack just like the Mutalisks with bouncing glave wurms PLUS they could cast Broodligns. Imagine that Queens would do 15 damage now! This would be insanely imbalanced! Archons had the ability to mind control, but it was removed later on; just like Valkiries and Dark Templars. The beta test was a great success and the gaming magazines (at least in my country) made multiple articles about it.

Please note that in 2007 I have found the beta CD ISO, and managed to convince l2k-Shadow and Tec27 to make a patch, that would allow to make the game playable on battle.net. I still have the ISO, but the patch stopped working, as Blizzard upgraded their servers. If you are interested in running the beta, please contact l2k-Shadow (the maker of the program callded SC Beta Gate) or Tec27. Alternatively try running the game using the old tools that can be found here + a private server.

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StarCraft beta. Do you recognize the units? The graphics slightly changed between alpha, beta and the final version..

3. StarCraft is published - 31 March 1998
The game debuted at a rather unusual part of the year. Most games are published around Christmas, but Blizzard knew that StarCraft was so good, that it would succeed at any period. At first gamers noticed the great campaign and story line. It was the first RTS to use scripting so extensively. The units "talked" (just like in Warcraft 2, but this is rare even for games published in 2005...), the missions were not only "seek and destroy", but also "rpg" style, there was a good story line... there was a great map editor. I remember that many magazines would publish campaigns and custom UMS maps made by casual gamers. There was such greed for more StarCraft maps! Of course the lucky ones could play on battle.net - mostly by means of modems, which led to gigantic telephone bills.

The main competitor of StarCraft at that time was a game called Total Annihilation. It had 3d graphics (which were in fact pretty hard to read) and doezns of units. Small tanks, medium tanks, heavy tanks, super heavy tanks and so on... Many people considered it a great game, but in fact it was very repetitive (all the single player missions were the same "build a base->destroy your opponents"), plus there was barely any story line. But you are probably mostly interested in multiplayer - Total Annihilation did not feature any battle.net service... so people had to use other means of finding opponents. Also the game was quite boring, all the units were the same, they did not shoot enemy buildings (!) and the maps lacked any details.

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Total Annihilation - main competitor of StarCraft at the time.. believe me or not. Can you find a tank on this picture?

4. Battle.net
Only lucky few could play at battle.net during its early days - mostly rich American kids.
Telephone costs were expensive (at least in the country I live in) and I would prefer not to write anything about the lag... because Im trying to omit swear words in this guide. Anyway, as far as I know, at the beginning most people played simple maps, such as (2)Challenger (which was also included in the Starcraft demo, I think) and (4)Blood Bath. Most gamers did not know any effective strategies and the play was quite sloppy. Spawning pools costed 150 minerals, and were build faster, so Zerg was the dominant race. Terrans had very hard times, as they struggled to stop the infamous "zergling rush" tactic, which we would now call a 4 pool... Some old player once told me that in the past people did not use the psi/supply limit to control the game flow, but rather would use a watch - "build spawning pool at 0:45, 6zerglings at 1:15, then a hatchery at 2:00" etc. This sounds funny now, but that's how the game was played. Protoss were the 2nd popular race, people would often start with cannons first in order to stop the Zerglings.
Something which was reinvented only by Nal_Ra years later.

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Blood Bath - the best StarCraft map ever

If you want to learn how StarCraft was played, please take a look at these ancient battle reports prepared by Blizzard./

The best players would compete in the official StarCraft ladder. People would play for points and hope to get to the final 16, which would compete in an official Blizzard tournament with nice rewards. Good players, such as BratTsunami (who also created a great website about playing zerg), would often have problems in finding the opponents, because everyone was dodging. Not to mention the hacking. Zynastor published his map hack and ruined the game for many players. People would cheat even in official tournaments, to this day, there are big controversies about the "Blizzard 10 000 dollar tournament"... Hell, I think even I would hack in a 10 000 dollar tournament. Testie hacked too!!!!11oneoneone

5. StarCraft add-ons
StarCraft was gaining more and more popularity in 1998. Players demanded more missions. To test the demand Blizzard pubslished a single player campaign called "Enslavers: Dark Vengeance". It was made using the standard editor and quite cheesy for todays standards, but became very, very popular. Blizzard knew that a follow up was needed and decided to create "add-ons". Please note that "add-ons" were different than "expansion packs". Add-ons just added new missions... - the first one was called Insurrection. It consisted of a single player campaign, with some new sounds, but without any new units. In addition it included some some average multiplayer maps. Despite its drawbacks it was quite a success and the 2nd addon, called Retribution. It also featured some average single player maps.
You probably think that these campaigns were poor, but in fact some of the missions were designed in quite a smart way by the standards of that day; for example in one of the Insurrection missions the player would have to build a base while being constantly harassed by multiple Queens, who would spawn Broodlings on nearly every unit he had.

Due to the popular demand (which also led to creation of Big Game Hunters) a third party add-on was created. It was called Stellar Forces and the maps were simple and boring. Fortunately (or maybe unfortunately?) it was quickly blocked by Blizzard's lawyers and is quite hard to find nowadays.

These 3 mission-packs (as well as the Precursor Campaign from the StarCraft demo) would be quickly forgotten...

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Precursor campaign. Do you know any other games, apart from Warcraft3, that feature hero units and installation terrain?
Most people rememeber only the Terran demo, with multiplayer capability, which allowed only TvT battles.

6. Brood War - 30 November 1998
The expansion pack was published 8 months after the release of the game. It featured new units and a completely new campaign. It was also proceeded by a beta test, during which the units were balanced again. Rarely would an "expansion pack" receive 10/10 points in reviews. It was so good because, it made the game much more complex...
Brood War was mostly focused on multiplayer; new maps were added and the game was balanced as Blizzard published the few final patches. The first ones fixed bugs and balanced the game.. but then a special patch was published, the 8th one.

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The new unit gave a great advantage to the poor Protoss race, they could mind control an enemy worker in order to build their units and win.

7. Patch 1.08
This is one of the most important patches for StarCraft. It is the one that made the game so big. Hated by many, loved by others... - it introduced replays! These small files would allow to watch games played by other players. You could observe the "gosu" players struggle in long battles.

Who remembers the replay where a terran player called `SlayerS`_Boxer proceeded to use EMP shockwave and nuclear missiles in order to destroy a Protoss player (DockSury)? (after the years we learned that the game was either fake or staged).

There was also this beautiful TvT between Boxer and [NC]..no1 on Showdown.

You might think that replays are not important, but they allowed the casual gamers to spend hours studying them in order to improve. Mutliple websites have spawned - in order to host the replays; good players would publish them - for fame and for money! Companies like coca-cola or AMD would sponsor the players to use their brands as the tags.. only years later would they learn that advertisements can be included in texts showed at the beginning of the game.
(A brief description of some of the older maps can be found here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84214)

Anyway, where did this Boxer guy come from?

8. Korean scene and the emergence of pro-gaming
In the late 1990s Korea has been investing a lot into the development of cable Internet. Today it might sound not important, but at that time, most countries had to rely on slow (and laggy) modems. Cable Internet allowed not only fast Internet spped, but also the more important thing - fixed fees! Your parents would not rant about your telephone bills any more! You would not have to be afraid of getting a "dialer" (malware program) that would make you dial some operator in a third world country and your telephone bill would get astronomical.

StarCraft gained lots of popularity in Korea. Seriously, what else could you play at that time? FPS games? They casual gamer had really big problems in running them, as graphic accelerators, such as 3Dfx Voodoo were really expensive at that time. Players could play not only at home, but also at Internet cafes, called PC Bangs in Korea. Im not from Korea but I remember that I used to go to cafes to play StarCraft with friends! This was one of the opportunities to play Hunters on LAN.

Players like Boxer and later [NC]..Yellow would get recognition and slowly gain sponsors. I do not have much information about StarCraft in Korea at that time, but I assume that it looked similar to StarCraft tournaments in Poland: at the beginning we had tournaments for the best player in an Internet cafe, then we would have off-line tournaments for the best player in a town, then tournaments at country level.
Netcraft/Netwars.pl server was born at that time, and most peoeple in Poland Started to play it (it was less laggy and did not check if the CD-key is original).

9. Meanwhile in Europe - Team like weed is formed!

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When montaro.org failed and Tsunami quit; few new websites would emerge. One of them was http://battlereports.com/, where people would describe their epic games with other good players (ok, it was launched before the 1.08 patch), another was http://sclegacy.com/ with descriptions of different strategies.

In addition, two fellow Dutchmen, tolkien fan Liquid~Nazgul and and meat fan Liquid~Meat decided to create a clan.. The clan (and the accompanying website) was called Team Liquid. These two guys were interested in two things - StarCraft and horses. Horses were dropped later on (for poker), but the StarCraft sentiment remained.At the beginning the website was small and less moderated. For some reason, probably the quality of posts, few English speaking Koreans decided to visit it frequently and provide English battle reports describing the events of the emerging Korean scene. Koreans managed to transmit StarCraft on TV!!!

Teamliquid had Stimey the ok GM fish. Teamliquid had Rekrul who banned people randomly. Teamliquid had OrangeTerran who claimed that he would beat people. Teamliquid had Hovz who would beat people (in game and in real life). Teamliquid had Elky the French progamer who clashed with Boxer on TV!

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Believe it or not, this guy is great at StarCraft and poker despite the fact that he is French.

One would come to teamliqud.net to learn some broken Korean phrases that could be later used in order to play with the "Korean gosus":
me łŞ¸¦
foreigner żÜ±ąŔÎ
game °ÔŔÓ

You would come to teamliquid to ask for the names of the best channels on US West, because for some reason this was the server with the most skilled players for some reason (after all the servers were split into realms. Before that there was a big single server for everyone!). My theory is that the best Koreans came to US West to clash with the best US players, like BratTsunami. Europe was always multikulti garbage and US East was about dodging, flaming and trashtalking - does anyone remember X17 clan? They are still doing this, after like 11 years...

Did you note that Koreans seem to prise "U.S. West server" till this day.
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Go West? Screenshot taken at ICCUP in 2009

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Does anyone remember the best US west clans from the old days?

Op HyO-
Op DaK
Op Nal
Brood War KOR-nAmOmO
Brood War KOR-NeXus
Op -NC
z-zone
Op AKUTA
Op ErOs-
Op GsP-
Op 397
Op Sasin
Op HyO)
Op Ever)
Op Promise)
Op Think)
Op S.G-
Op is)
were the best...

And at Europe server:
op tot)
op id-

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The progaming teams were much different too:
On December 10 2003 07:15 stimey d okgm fish wrote:


KTF
jinnam, joyo, hovz, rekrul

hanbitsoft
boxer, slayers, limterran, yaoyowan

team liquid
nazgul, meat, john sears, liquid

OGN
reach, assem, gundam, yellow, orange







10. Somewhere around 2003, Legionnaire and Rekrul would go to Korea.

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Teamliquid got pace. Not only did it have battle reports. It also had players competing in Korean teams. Not only Elky and Rekrul, but also Leg, who in fact would write about strategy and answer the questions of average Joe. A real progamer!
StarCraft was so cool back then, that some lamers would create a "StarCraft university" and would give lessons for $80 per hour.

Teamliquid also had the VOD thread. You might think that VODs are common bread and butter. But Im talking about 2005. The times where there was no Youtube. Do you remember it? Bandwidth costed a shitton, hosting video was hard. But teamliquid members managed to do it! Everyone would try to spam to get 300 (or was it 500?) posts in order to be able to download VODs, as only the users with a hydralisk or more could download them.I remember that many people from netwars.pl would write to me and ask to borrow my account in order to download the VODs, as they did not have enough posts. And I usually refused ahaha!
I sorta miss my old account, it had 2800 posts, which also grant some other privileges up to this day... (some people will know what I mean).

11. Former history

The boards became more and more similar to the one you can see nowadays. The strategy forum mostly consisted of Protoss players, who would complain that the game was imbalanced. They forgot about fast expands known before Brood War, they forgot about observers. They only used 3 units, Zealots, Probes and Dragoons.
But there was this guy, called Johnattan Walsh, aka Frozen Abitur, who would come and bash them.

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Protoss players would complain that lurkers are imbalanced and that they would always forget to make observers. There was even some replay, where some guy used an Archon and few Zealots to kill the burrowed Lurker. He positioned the Zealots on top of the Lurker and attacked them with an Archon. Splash damage would be used to kill the Zerg unit. And no, the Protoss player did not have storm. He was considered gosu though! FA ridiculed it. We also laughed at the strategy involving mind controlling the enemy Overlord in order to get a free observer. But for some reason it worked.
Just like Boxer's blind spot rush.


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At that time everyone was playing pure Lost Temple. I remember that I had 500 (yes 500!!!) versions of that map. Due to the increasing boredom, new maps would slowly start to emerge e.g. Nostalgia.

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Difference between neogamei and regular LT; screenshot made by Bill307 (IIRC)

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Blackman would get third at the WCG, everyone would try playing macro Zerg at this time... oh no sorry, everyone would switch to Terran. Because Boxer became even more awesome! He had the micro, he had the strategies! He was so great. He had a big rivalry with [NC]...Yellow... whom he would bunker rush multiple times; for example during the OSL final - THREE TIMES in a row:
Dhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYLhOXn5rTw

or on an island map!


Yes, Boxer bunker rushed Yellow on an island map, just after he ridiculed him in the OSL finals

The average Joe would play on gamei - the gosu Korean server with antihack (only if you had fellow Koreans who would explain to you how to do it); and later on WGTOUR - the big ladder website, with lots of drama and abuse. At some point the Koreans even came to WGTOUR in order to participate in the ladder, LastGamer aka Yellow had 100 wins and 2-3 losses (he only lost to a map hacking German Terran from clan BWD as far as I remember).

Gamei would die soon; but not before Boxer acquired 2000 points there and hand picked 3 training partners for himself (one of the training partners was called Iloveoov, does it sound familiar?). JulyZerg had only 1300 points and was playing 50 games per day at that time. After the server died we would play on US West again; Koreans would run "HanStar" program, which allowed them to write in Korean in StarCraft (blizzard later updated it). After the servers demise, neo-gamei would emerge - this time made by Russians, and die too..

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Protoss sucked in 2005
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Terran sucked in 2005 too o_o
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We did what we could to make the other players leave the game to get the points.

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After ngi died, a brave, but forgotten social worker from Canada, called Pat, together with Ashur from Czech republic, would create a new server - PGTOUR.
This was one of the best StarCraft servers, it had a great launcher, great website, lots of
other features.. it was perfect. It was even better than ICCUP, because it was also focused on news and replays But everyone flamed Pat and one day he simply disappeared. Perhaps after PGT was hacked, perhaps due to the problems with getting enough staff - he had to do all the things himself. He is one of the forgotten people, just like Emlary, from the VOD thread, or ToKoreaWithLove, the old TL.net moderator.

Meanwhile, in Korea, a player called [Red]Nada would emerge and stomp Boxer. He would also stomp the Protoss players with his "tornado Terran" build. They would cry that both the Terrans and the Zerg can defeat them easily. After Nada, Iloveoov would emerge, and then Reach, and then JulyZerg.. and then Jaedong... but this is the more known history of StarCraft.
There was also Xellos, the imperfect Terran


12. The biggest secret of StarCraft revealed.
After 8 years from publishing the game, the biggest secret was revealed.
THERE IS A MAN INSIDE OF MISSILE TURRET
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=10342

13. Biggest protoss victory

Protoss player BigBalls (teamliquid.net) won $1 million in poker.

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14. And then everyone started making movies


Eros Leo the movie


Boxer highlights

The Shock Squadron clan (S2) cheated in their marine micro highlight video:


Not to mention the StarCraft origami. Everyone was making those at one point:

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15. Over the years there were some epic games:



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16. StarCraft and teamliquid.net have evolved
AND THEY DONT LOOK THE SAME WAY AS IN 1998
please open spoiler to see picture


+ Show Spoiler +

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17. We don't discuss progamer mice any more
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We focus on the SEN-DT35 keyboards instead.


18. Protoss learned the "Bisu" build.

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as well as finally started to use Reavers.

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19. In 2009 Valkiries became finally usable.

Boxer had to show how to use them lol

The rest is quite known.


EDIT: THERE IS AN UPDATE AT PAGE 4 WITH LOTS OF ADDITIONAL MATERIAL - CLICK HERE TO FOLLOW THROUGH.
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
June 10 2009 17:25 GMT
#2
Nice post!
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
June 10 2009 17:33 GMT
#3
Great research, but I have to bitch a bit about TA.

It was actually a pretty good game (not like SC though!!), and you do it a big disservice by saying that all the units were the same. The physics engine led to some revolutionary (at the time) tactics, such as the ability to dodge incoming shots. Also, the size and scope of the game made perfect micro/macro just as impossible a goal as it is in Starcraft. No it wasn't balanced since everyone played the same faction, and some maps tended to turn into 40 minute turtle fests, but there really was a lot of strategy and skill involved in being good at it.

It wouldn't have been a "main competitor" if it was as crappy as you seem to portray it as.
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3701 Posts
June 10 2009 17:37 GMT
#4
Good post, but your SC beta screenshot isn't really the beta. Its the alpha. The beta looked incredibly similar to the SC we know and love today, the units had some differences at the beginning though. There's a beta thread with screenshots somewhere around here if you search for it.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
June 10 2009 17:40 GMT
#5
On June 11 2009 02:37 tec27 wrote:
Good post, but your SC beta screenshot isn't really the beta. Its the alpha. The beta looked incredibly similar to the SC we know and love today, the units had some differences at the beginning though. There's a beta thread with screenshots somewhere around here if you search for it.


It's the beta; alpha screenshots are on top. They just switched the graphics later on, the screenshot shows a spire; and an "evolution pit" (aka unused zerg bulding 1 in the editor).

Btw. why did everyone discuss the Boxer Yellow island map bunker rush on my blog, but not here t.t
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 10 2009 17:42 GMT
#6
Wow nice summary.
觀過斯知仁矣.
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
June 10 2009 17:47 GMT
#7
On June 11 2009 02:37 tec27 wrote:
Good post, but your SC beta screenshot isn't really the beta. Its the alpha. The beta looked incredibly similar to the SC we know and love today, the units had some differences at the beginning though. There's a beta thread with screenshots somewhere around here if you search for it.

happy birthday!

omg sexy post man, i skimmed thru it but oh the memories, definitely gonna read this now.
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
zealing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada806 Posts
June 10 2009 17:49 GMT
#8
O.o gonna take me forever to read through all that, but very nice post.

Lol at the man in the turret.
Think you got lag? It took Jesus 3 days to respawn.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-13 16:44:26
June 10 2009 17:51 GMT
#9
Wtf gigantic o_O; Looks interesting/nostalgic.

FA ridiculed it

Why would I ridicule someone for killing lurkers with splash? It's good and I've always thought it was good..

Also, Jonathan Walsh*, FrozenArbiter*. Abitur ;(? <3 for including the imbalance picture.

The proteam list is weird tho - rekrul was never on KTF, and Teamliquid was never a proteam, for instance. Infact, I think you must have used a poor source for that one - probably a joke infact
EDIT: Oh it was a reference to an old joke, I'm an idiot, nevermind me! I blame it on lack of sleep.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-10 17:55:51
June 10 2009 17:54 GMT
#10
edit: nevermind
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
June 10 2009 17:54 GMT
#11
The triple bunker rush was not in the finals.

After Nada, Iloveoov would emerge, and then Reach, and then JulyZerg


Reach won his OSL before oov won anything.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-10 17:58:17
June 10 2009 17:57 GMT
#12
good summary for us newbies :D
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 10 2009 18:20 GMT
#13
WOW I did not know about the missle turret man, great post!
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
June 10 2009 18:20 GMT
#14
Great write-ups, hats down for u sir...

Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-10 18:21:55
June 10 2009 18:21 GMT
#15
On June 11 2009 02:51 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Wtf gigantic o_O; Looks interesting/nostalgic.

Show nested quote +
FA ridiculed it

Why would I ridicule someone for killing lurkers with splash? It's good and I've always thought it was good..

Also, Jonathan Walsh*, FrozenArbiter*. Abitur ;(? <3 for including the imbalance picture.

The proteam list is weird tho - rekrul was never on KTF, and Teamliquid was never a proteam, for instance. Infact, I think you must have used a poor source for that one - probably a joke infact


Yeh it's from a thread ages back where someone wanted to know team lists etc, and some dude wrote that :o
<3
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-10 18:34:06
June 10 2009 18:33 GMT
#16
This is sexy.

P.S. Also Starcraft was the name for boats and travel trailers as well.
ya had ya shot kid!
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 10 2009 18:33 GMT
#17
This was very interesting, lol.
Someone needs to teach me starcraft origami. :p
darkness overpowering
z]Benny
Profile Joined April 2006
Romania253 Posts
June 10 2009 18:33 GMT
#18
On June 11 2009 03:20 Megalisk wrote:
WOW I did not know about the missle turret man, great post!


Hah, this one never gets old...
StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
June 10 2009 18:34 GMT
#19
On June 11 2009 02:51 FrozenArbiter wrote:

The proteam list is weird tho - rekrul was never on KTF, and Teamliquid was never a proteam, for instance. Infact, I think you must have used a poor source for that one - probably a joke infact

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=9529

This was a great guide. I hope you get a beta key!
Retired BW Noob
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
June 10 2009 18:42 GMT
#20
Great post. I enjoyed it all!
Freedom is a stranger
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
June 10 2009 18:48 GMT
#21
I think he knows that proteam roster is a joke...? I mean it's patently absurd.

For the record: YellOw annihilated BoxeR in that island-map bunker rush. Then he proceeded to throw his game against DoGGi to get BoxeR eliminated from groups.

Eat your heart out.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
June 10 2009 18:52 GMT
#22
well done this man is deserving a beta key!
Hooktits of Tits gaming @hooktits twit
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
June 10 2009 18:54 GMT
#23
Good work, although you did make one mistake. When Blizzard received the backlash for their pre-Alpha build, they first tried to fix it by heavily modifying the old WarCraft II engine. However, later on, they encountered the problem of not being able to implement some of the special abilities such as Burrow. It was only then that they decided to completely scratch the old engine and write a completely new engine for the game.

Otherwise, very nice. This preety much reduces the chances for the rest since this and the Stove guide are almost guaruanteed to be among the top three winners.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
June 10 2009 18:58 GMT
#24
Very cool, thanks
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
June 10 2009 19:03 GMT
#25
Nice post. But there are more problems.

Starcraft is not a GM product. Many people modified their GM vans using Starcraft parts.
Starcraft Distribution is still running today. They modify cars, trucks, and vans.

That picture you showed is just a Starcraft Distribution modified van. GM is crashing, yet. But Starcraft has nothing to do with GM.
http://www.starcraftparts.com/php/index.php

There is also a Starcraft for recreational vehicles (boats, RVs).
http://www.starcraftrv.com/
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
June 10 2009 19:05 GMT
#26
Freaking amazing~!
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
June 10 2009 19:12 GMT
#27
So sick. Great guide!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
June 10 2009 19:12 GMT
#28
Wow what I massive post, haven't gotten through all of it yet, will have to come back and finish later. The starcraft origami is pretty cool. BTW are the drones and defiler flying in the starcraft beta picture?
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
June 10 2009 19:23 GMT
#29
I still play Blood Bath, too fun.
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
June 10 2009 19:25 GMT
#30
Really nice read, I love how the precursor and terran only demo gets mentioned too. Also the map included in demo is called (2)Byway (or with s in the end, not 100% sure).
Artifex
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Belgium189 Posts
June 10 2009 19:27 GMT
#31
Very enjoyable read! I never knew how much SC changed between alpha and beta O_o.

Also TA was (in my eyes) also a very enjoyable game, you had a hero unit (the commander) :p + the process of making buildings and the resource management was very unique at that time, not to mention it had air AND sea units, which SC didn't. I always imagined how it would be if terran could construct this massive cannon capable of fireing shells all across the largest possible map like in TA :p
Fear. Fear that the zerg are expanding all over the map and there's nothing you can do. The Swarm. Your doom. Now is the time to panic. The terran and protoss are trying to survive. The Zerg are trying to obliterate them. - Stane
danieldrsa
Profile Joined June 2008
Brazil523 Posts
June 10 2009 19:29 GMT
#32
O_O There is a man inside the turret?

*Shocked*
-*-
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
June 10 2009 19:30 GMT
#33
On June 11 2009 02:20 closed wrote:


[image loading]



YUUUUP you took one of my pics ! ^_^

Good read :p
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 10 2009 19:35 GMT
#34
I came into this expecting trash and was pleasantly surprised. This post was pretty fun to read. Though that reaver picture could use a revamp
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
June 10 2009 19:35 GMT
#35
FA, I think you took the ridiculed part wrong. Did he mean you ridiculed people for not using obs? You ridiculed the guy who used his zealot to splash the lurk? Dunno.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
June 10 2009 19:40 GMT
#36
This is my favorite guide so far . Excellent job, you deserve a beta key for that imo.
z]Benny
Profile Joined April 2006
Romania253 Posts
June 10 2009 19:41 GMT
#37
The nostalgia of it all.... BratTsunami man...
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
June 10 2009 19:44 GMT
#38
On June 11 2009 04:35 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I came into this expecting trash and was pleasantly surprised. This post was pretty fun to read. Though that reaver picture could use a revamp

WTF ???? WTF ??? WTF ???
[image loading]
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Meretricious
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada161 Posts
June 10 2009 19:49 GMT
#39
On June 11 2009 04:44 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2009 04:35 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I came into this expecting trash and was pleasantly surprised. This post was pretty fun to read. Though that reaver picture could use a revamp

WTF ???? WTF ??? WTF ???
[image loading]

That picture WINS.
And I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE TURRET hahaha
Great read!
NaDa / Flash Fan
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 10 2009 19:56 GMT
#40
Great guide, good effort n_n
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 10 2009 20:00 GMT
#41
On June 11 2009 04:25 NeonFlare wrote:
Really nice read, I love how the precursor and terran only demo gets mentioned too. Also the map included in demo is called (2)Byway (or with s in the end, not 100% sure).

(2)Byways

Intense and horribly imbalanced map.
Peace~
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
June 10 2009 20:41 GMT
#42
nice write up!
Jaedong :3
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
June 10 2009 20:48 GMT
#43
COOL, filled me in much knowledge that i lack as a noob
~\(。◕‿‿◕。)/~,,,,,,,,>
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2923 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-10 21:25:23
June 10 2009 21:25 GMT
#44
great post, very enjoyable !
even though it seemed a little off here and there you caught most of the stuff
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
June 10 2009 21:45 GMT
#45
u didnt mention savior! wtfz
fuck lag
Nanoo
Profile Joined March 2009
229 Posts
June 10 2009 21:53 GMT
#46
very nice guide (article)...im enjoyed this
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
June 10 2009 21:55 GMT
#47
Nice guide.

I'd like to add that I think the reason the Koreans favoured the US West server was because they got a good ping on it and as far as I'm aware the Asia server was the equivalent of US East, filled with trash talkers.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
June 10 2009 22:20 GMT
#48
Awesome guide :D
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
June 10 2009 22:21 GMT
#49
Looking at the old battle reports are funny as hell. Look how much scouts were used lol.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
June 10 2009 22:26 GMT
#50
On June 11 2009 07:21 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Looking at the old battle reports are funny as hell. Look how much scouts were used lol.


Are you kidding? Scouts were the old carriers!
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-10 22:35:35
June 10 2009 22:35 GMT
#51
PGTour was around at the time Nada started dominating? That seems really off.

Was a fun read btw.
No I'm never serious.
toopham
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States551 Posts
June 11 2009 02:33 GMT
#52
Fuck the competition.
give this man his Beta key.
DIE!!!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 11 2009 02:50 GMT
#53
amazing job.. very nice.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
June 11 2009 02:54 GMT
#54
great work! it was really fun to read
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
June 11 2009 03:09 GMT
#55
Very good, though the text gets a bit iffy after the first half, etc. Not that it isn't edited, just doesn't seem to have the thought that was put into the beginning.
Good...Bad... Im the guy with the gun
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
June 11 2009 03:17 GMT
#56
Good stuff ^^
TranslatorBaa!
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
June 11 2009 03:20 GMT
#57
ahah yeah the french starcraft player was Bertrand aka (T)ElkY. It was a good opponent to (T)BoxeR. StarCraft has hard impact with many reasons like firstly, they didn't allow any FPS game so everybody played StarCraft. Then, the 공군 (Air Force) made the professional StarCraft team under gouvernment etc...
About the car, yeah Chevrolet made the "StarCraft" model, and progamers use that to move from stadium to practice room etc etc... On my profile, you can find pictures about that.
#1 olleh KT 팬 http://sports.kt.com/ | #1 김택용 선수 팬 | 좋은 선수: 송병구, 이제동, 도제욱, 정명훈, 이성은 | KeSPA 한국 e-Sports 협회
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
June 11 2009 03:29 GMT
#58
what's with the total annihilation hate?

It's a great game.
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
June 11 2009 03:50 GMT
#59
great guilde! omg omg I miss WC2 soooo much, spent a lot of time on it omg omg I remember making them maps!
Xellos <3
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
June 11 2009 03:57 GMT
#60
Ahaha awesome guide! Did not know about the man in the turret
Surprised I didn't recognize any of those West clans considering I played in WSCL, but I guess they were before my time
Team Life and Team Clean forever! ^.^
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-11 04:27:14
June 11 2009 04:26 GMT
#61
total annihilation had the craziest late game shit, REEL nukes and giant cannons already mentioned
besides that, really interesting to read
QQplay
Profile Joined February 2009
United States229 Posts
June 11 2009 05:09 GMT
#62
Very nice read! I would never had known that there was a man in the turret

On June 11 2009 04:44 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2009 04:35 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I came into this expecting trash and was pleasantly surprised. This post was pretty fun to read. Though that reaver picture could use a revamp

WTF ???? WTF ??? WTF ???
[image loading]

LOL
z]Benny
Profile Joined April 2006
Romania253 Posts
June 11 2009 13:09 GMT
#63
On June 11 2009 12:20 [M]ToaD wrote:
About the car, yeah Chevrolet made the "StarCraft" model, and progamers use that to move from stadium to practice room etc etc... On my profile, you can find pictures about that.


Lol, seriously? They actually go with a "StarCraft" van? That's funny but in a rather weird way, may just be too much
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
June 11 2009 13:34 GMT
#64
hahahah.

One of the best posts i've read to this day
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
June 11 2009 19:28 GMT
#65
anyone send tec27 a message? We really should get the beta running, could be fun fun fun.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
June 11 2009 19:32 GMT
#66
On June 11 2009 22:09 z]Benny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2009 12:20 [M]ToaD wrote:
About the car, yeah Chevrolet made the "StarCraft" model, and progamers use that to move from stadium to practice room etc etc... On my profile, you can find pictures about that.


Lol, seriously? They actually go with a "StarCraft" van? That's funny but in a rather weird way, may just be too much


Yep that's the truth. Look the KT van, you have sticker in front of the car write (StarCraft). This is the model of the car.
I dont think its too much. StarCraft is a national sport here, given that progamers are know as stars like singer, etc... they are rolling in these kinda vans, driving by the coach =)
#1 olleh KT 팬 http://sports.kt.com/ | #1 김택용 선수 팬 | 좋은 선수: 송병구, 이제동, 도제욱, 정명훈, 이성은 | KeSPA 한국 e-Sports 협회
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 11 2009 19:45 GMT
#67
I enjoyed every bit of this guide/article

The man inside the turret is hilarious XD
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Rodiel
Profile Joined August 2006
France573 Posts
June 11 2009 20:33 GMT
#68
Very interesting, starcraft has a big history, hope star2 will make something as that big :p
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
June 11 2009 20:53 GMT
#69
Great fucking post bro.
No no no no its not mine!
Mutaahh
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands859 Posts
June 11 2009 23:15 GMT
#70
This is the 1st guide, I actually read, damn what a nice read!!!

beta key for this man!
I want to fly
closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-12 18:35:01
June 12 2009 18:34 GMT
#71
Update, I found the picture of Protoss playing poker, made after BigBalls won $1 million

[image loading]
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-13 16:58:47
June 13 2009 16:58 GMT
#72
Lol ;p

I wonder what it is that makes protoss players good at poker -_-

Nazgul
GiYom
Smuft
BigBalls
Pooruser (frost(te) here IIRC)
Rainkhan
Fisheye
McNasty (I can't remember if he was main P or main T)

I'm unsure what race Peachy played, although I think zerg.

Under succesful terrans there's like..
Elky
Beast

Under succesful zergs:
Schnibl0r
Depending on what race you want to count Slayer as, I guess he could go here (or terran).

I'm sure I'm missing some people, but there's a lot of protoss poker players

What race did (Orky)Soul play?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-13 17:04:01
June 13 2009 17:02 GMT
#73
Kain-The-Feared is another pretty successful poker player, I think he did mainly Protoss too (altho he randomed alot)

I dont think hes ever been in those major tournaments, but he told me he can definately make a living off poker (paid off schooling and etc If I recall correctly)

And if I can recall, I definately remember [GG]Slayer as mainly a terran player.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-15 10:34:57
June 14 2009 12:26 GMT
#74
Sorry for the fact that some of the dates are bit off; I am more focused on facts.
I have not included some of the important events that happened during StarCraft's 11 year history and consequently decided to make an update.

1. In 2004 Boxer played versus a blind guy.

It might seem like an easy win for Lim Yo-Hwan, but the blind guy was doing quite fine.
Of course Boxer was given a handicap - he had his eyes covered for the first few minutes..
I dont want to spoil the game, Boxer had to cheese a bit.



2. Allied mines

`SlayerS`_Boxer also used allied mines in a televised game - you will know why are they banned from tournaments...



Speaking of tournaments - in the past progamers would have better outfits.

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Hello! I am a Zealot!


3. Marriage

There was even a "StarCraft marriage" between: Lelis and Screwt[PiG]. Funny nickname for a guy, by the way, 'Screwed-pig'.

[image loading]

They met for the first time on the netcraft server and lived happy ever after. In fact they post from time to time on netwars.pl about being married and PvZ.

There are also lots of StarCraft parents: Manifesto7, KillMe1St, NotSorry, Tech)Psylo, FuDDx Saro, X)Benny, HellAngel, InfeSteD...
some of them will probably rise their children to became progamers, according to their posts at least.

Speaking of ladies

Apparently miss Singapore Cassandra Ng plays Starcraft too. She is usually given as an example of gamer girls. This example is of course not true, as there are no girls on the Internet...

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Does anyone remember Zia?
[image loading]

She used to post here, but later on it was found that she has a penis.
Who will be next? LilSusie? mnm? Rpf???

There was also a female progamer league. It was quickly cancelled however, because most of the girls were ugly and could not play the game up to par. TossGirl is the only progamer girl that ever became sucessful (and in fact she is the prettiest). I have no idea why she is not called TerranGirl. She beat some progamers, some even quit StarCraft after losing to her. The best female progamer was probably [ugly]Betty - the tag explains why we do see her any more on TV..

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[Oops]January... oooooooopps

4. The Team Micro Arena rage

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Around 2005 everyone started playing team micro arena, which was originally created by Cygnus[x.1]. The map consists of two teams who choose units that they later use to destroy enemy nexus. This sounds simple, yet is very fun, as usually it is played by 6 players. Cygnus decided to keep the map unprotected, so many different versions were spawned, e.g. Team Banana Platform (where you could listen to the Banana song), a 4v4 version, Free-For-All platform with 4 teams, Team Micro Arena legends with completely rebalanced units and so on. In fact I have around 50 versions of this map and there is definitely even more ~ probably 150 versions float around.

Team Micro Melee and Team Micro Platform are maps based on this idea, but remade from scratch. In my opinion they are the best versions, so I would recommend anyone to try them. Team micro platform can be found here - it was updated by GrandInquisitor from TL!. Team Micro Melee was made by the TL in-house mapmaker - Bill307. I can refer you to the proper topic.

There is a whole community dedicated to playing TMA: www.team-micro-arena.net/, just like there is a community dedicated to playing money maps: vilegaming.com.



5. Map editors, map makers and the whole map-making community

Noone ever gives the credit for Heimdall and Suicidal Insanity. Most of teamliquid.net players
who mostly play melee maps have probably have never heard about these guys. They are the creators of the two best Starcraft map editors - Starforge and Scmdraft. Heimdall is the guy who
introduced neutral buildings into games, long before they were ever known by Korean mapmakers.
It always shocks me how the relatively small http://www.staredit.net/ community never receives any credit. Most of you probably do not remember the time when there was no way of making "backwards" ramps, which led to many map making problems (map could not be exactly symmetrical) - these guys solved it by allowing to edit the isometric sections of the map easily. If you read any mapmaking guide it will definitely direct you to any of those two programs.

Staredit.net members have made lots of GREAT maps and most of the mapmaking tricks would be really hard or impossible without them. Take a look at few examples:

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When will we see such tricks in pro maps? Why are the professional maps so plain? This is not professional.

Check the Staredit.net mapmaking hall of fame for more references

6. Rigged maps, winbot and other forms of cheating

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Forbidden Zone, a semi-island map.

When there are ladders, people will always cheat. Some will do it to play better opponents, some just to ruin the game of others, some want to prove that they are gosu. Testie went 104-0 PvT on the map called Forbidden Zone, in order to prove that this map is imbalanced in PvT. He played like Combat-EX though - dodged all the good opponents and picked the ones with ratio lower than 50%. I am not sure if he begged the opponents to quit like the latter player though..

Speaking of maps - you should be cautious when you download one, players like LastShadow rig them, so that the units would cost less and would be built faster... - such thing even happened on Korean TV Warcraft 3 league! Yes, the organizers were cheating because they considered the game to be imbalanced and they would give Orcs some advantage. Perhaps this is the reason why replays of televised games are so rare? :-) To progamers: if you are reading this... use a tool called "rep2map" in order to extract the maps from the replay, then check them out in the editor to see if the unit statistics have not been altered.

7. The funniest post on TL.net

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This post always makes me laugh. I had to post it.

8. The funniest thread on TL.net - Veg deleted RUNDLL32

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9. UMS means not only sunken defense

There are many, many types of UMS maps (defense, RPG, bound, worms, the unknown...) most of which are barely known by melee players. I decided to create a map pack in order to popularize my favourite type - micro control maps.The results so far are incredible.

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The pack has been downloaded nearly 250 000 (two houndred fifty thousand!!!) times on yaoyuan.com. And it can be still found there - click me.

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Gemcraft - flash game based on one of the StarcCraft UMS maps.

Many StarCraft UMS maps are so good that whole GAMES were created on the basis of their mechanics/ideas. The first to become popular was the whole "tower defense" genere - which are based on the idea taken from the map with same name.

Not to mention the most popular Warcraft III UMS:

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DoTA - based on the "Aeon of Strife" from StarCraft. This probably doesn't need any explanations.
Just go try it.

10. Zerg invaded the Earth!

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This weird creature is actually called Bathynomus Giganteus. They have a length between 19 and 37 centimetres (7.5 and 15 in), and reach the max weight of approximately 1.7 kilograms (3.7 lb).
They seem like a nice alternative for a cat. Click here for Wikipedia article.

11. The invasion of giant isopods was fortunately stopped by Lego StarCraft units!

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12. The battle took place at 3D Lost Temple

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13. And we won!

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14.The saga continued, however, as Nada played Satan

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Click here to read the whole Nada/Satan manga.


15. After all that we have started learning English with StarCraft

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Yes, there are textbooks used to teach English by means of StarCraft in Korea.

16. Our favorite game was released on GameBoy

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Not.

And on Calculators!

Yes, someone actually programmed this and it looks just great!

17. Unfortunately most people still didn't know about additional pylons!

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18. Yet we still play

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Sometimes lose:

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Winbot, the little program that ruined ladder on Blizzard servers.

19. We learn new tricks every day though!

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20. There were also lots of progaming incidents over the time though.

I really recommend you to read them:

Part 1 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=25706
Part 2 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=25917
Part 3 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=25917
Part 4 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=26071
Part 5 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=26924
Part 6 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=29303
Part 7 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=29303


21. In 2009 another secret got revealed - two players can parasite a critter at the same time.
Did you know that? There are lost of such StarCraft trivia.

22. StarCraft bling is becoming more and more popular!
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just like StarCraft t-shirts...

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Ok, these are technically teamliquid, winged-horse t-shirts.
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...origami...

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...StarCraft chips...

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and cakes..

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This cake received over 3000 diggs!

That's Pure Pwnage - right?
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Ps. Xellos will win the OSL if he stops to DDR.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
June 14 2009 12:41 GMT
#75
How could anyone doubt that WC2 was pretty? It's graphics still is quite nice. I remember times of playing WC1, like no right click commands, you always had to click move, then confirm with left button, etc.

And out of all games i have ever played most notable sound comes from church in WC1. Dunno why but i liked the chorus in there so much
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
June 14 2009 13:13 GMT
#76
No mention of Dark Reign I thought that was better than TA in gameplay but people got sucked in with 3D and it was still a competitor of SC

Very interesting read - not written or formatted the best it could be, I have to say, but it does the job and I enjoyed it and learned something new. Big thanks!
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
June 14 2009 13:18 GMT
#77
wow, nice guide, and I did not know about the man in the turret!
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 14 2009 13:20 GMT
#78
tolkien fan Liquid~Nazgul and and meat fan Liquid~Meat


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
z]Benny
Profile Joined April 2006
Romania253 Posts
June 14 2009 14:02 GMT
#79
Awesome update!!!!!
Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
June 14 2009 14:27 GMT
#80
Great read : ) Some stuff isn't 100% accurate though (like the order in which some players rose to stardom for example) but that isn't really important.
I would suggest you edit your post on the 4th page into the OP I guess. And perhaps add a tiny bit of spoilers for the slow connexions. I think that would improve you're submission's quality for the contest^^
Again: it was very enjoyable to read, GL with the contest!
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-14 16:04:19
June 14 2009 16:01 GMT
#81
Holy shit.
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NEEEEEEED
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
June 14 2009 17:10 GMT
#82
whoa... you broke the format
ggyo...
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
June 14 2009 17:21 GMT
#83
On June 14 2009 01:58 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Lol ;p

I wonder what it is that makes protoss players good at poker -_-

Nazgul
GiYom
Smuft
BigBalls
Pooruser (frost(te) here IIRC)
Rainkhan
Fisheye
McNasty (I can't remember if he was main P or main T)

I'm unsure what race Peachy played, although I think zerg.

Under succesful terrans there's like..
Elky
Beast

Under succesful zergs:
Schnibl0r
Depending on what race you want to count Slayer as, I guess he could go here (or terran).

I'm sure I'm missing some people, but there's a lot of protoss poker players

What race did (Orky)Soul play?


well the obvious two you forgot is saft and willet ;p
z]Benny
Profile Joined April 2006
Romania253 Posts
June 14 2009 17:38 GMT
#84
About the boxer vs the blind kid: was he supposed to only be blindfolded for the first couple of minutes??? Cause I was always under the impression that he was being a not very nice boxer when he took his blindfold off to beat the handicapped.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 14 2009 21:08 GMT
#85
boxer couldn't find his minerals to mine or something so he took off the blindfolds
lol
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
G0dly
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States450 Posts
June 14 2009 21:21 GMT
#86
yeah he was only supposed to be blindfolded for the first couple of minutes.
The Emperor - The Genius - The Cheater - The Maestro
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
June 14 2009 21:47 GMT
#87
And also, the blind guy had a bunch of overlords filled with units, if he dropped them it woulda been over.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-14 22:29:05
June 14 2009 22:26 GMT
#88
closed:

Nice mention on community mapmaking, although it was much bigger than staredit.net, which is a fairly young site.

On June 14 2009 21:26 closed wrote:
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DoTA - based on the "Defense of the Ancients" UMS. This doesn't need any explanations.

Correction: DoTA is "Defense of the Ancients," it was based on a starcraft UMS game called Aeon of Strife.

I know this cus I made Aeon of Strife, I think I still have the final version on a disc somewhere. It was just a peculiar love of the Protoss backstory that I made it, but the basic concept caught on without me as I never went on to map in WC3. Guess it's one of those "turret def" or "diablo" concepts that are instantly understandable and recognizable.

I'm going to resurrect some of the great maps by other mappers that got simply too little attention. Some are just too technically awesome.
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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-14 22:40:15
June 14 2009 22:39 GMT
#89
Oh and one other thing about hacked terrain:

I'm surprised nobody has crossed two different tile sets yet for melee maps. It's been possible for a long time.
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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
June 15 2009 00:50 GMT
#90
Share it plz ! Would be pretty interesting.
A combination of twillight / space tileset would just own rite ? :D
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
June 15 2009 01:31 GMT
#91
On June 15 2009 07:39 .risingdragoon wrote:
Oh and one other thing about hacked terrain:

I'm surprised nobody has crossed two different tile sets yet for melee maps. It's been possible for a long time.


Are you sure? I thought only sprites from the new tilesets (twilight/snow, etc.) could be exchanged, not the tilesets :O
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
June 15 2009 02:24 GMT
#92
The first post was pretty awesome, but the 4th page continuation felt like you got a bit tired and there was so much less text.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
uglymoose89
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States671 Posts
June 15 2009 04:10 GMT
#93
I have learned so much about the game now. And there is so much random interesting stuff that is all tied together because of sc. lol at the english textbook with sc units.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 15 2009 13:25 GMT
#94
missile man omg!

nice "guide"
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Thug[ro]
Profile Joined October 2005
Romania340 Posts
June 15 2009 14:28 GMT
#95
nice post EPIC TIMES proud that i lived to see and enjoy it
krazymunky
Profile Joined June 2008
United States727 Posts
July 28 2009 16:37 GMT
#96
lol according to the third pic, the overlord use to have shields?
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9027 Posts
July 28 2009 17:01 GMT
#97
On June 15 2009 07:26 .risingdragoon wrote:
closed:

Nice mention on community mapmaking, although it was much bigger than staredit.net, which is a fairly young site.

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 21:26 closed wrote:
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DoTA - based on the "Defense of the Ancients" UMS. This doesn't need any explanations.

Correction: DoTA is "Defense of the Ancients," it was based on a starcraft UMS game called Aeon of Strife.

I know this cus I made Aeon of Strife, I think I still have the final version on a disc somewhere. It was just a peculiar love of the Protoss backstory that I made it, but the basic concept caught on without me as I never went on to map in WC3. Guess it's one of those "turret def" or "diablo" concepts that are instantly understandable and recognizable.

I'm going to resurrect some of the great maps by other mappers that got simply too little attention. Some are just too technically awesome.

Wait so you're involved with DotA?

And the "Man in turret" pic in the original thread died or smt I can't see it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
July 28 2009 18:07 GMT
#98
Lol, that car. The handicaped students at my school were transported in that car. Always laught about it having the same name as SC :D
I pwn noobs
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
July 28 2009 19:03 GMT
#99
I hope your main gets unbanned :D
Halfway of Boxer's best highlight almost made me cry good music there.

There are no tanks in TA screenshot! You took a easy way and chose one without them!
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ok it is hard to google I'm on 10th "o" page and still only 1good screen with tanks... and almost nothing else x.x
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15th page...
20th...
25th WTF...
29th FOUND 1
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Maps lacked details? You could do your own by simply shooting the ground add and remove stuff by killing units and reclaiming them... and rocks, trees... no trees burn in SC - in TA whole forests!
pplz made mod for Supreme Commander, making it look like TA... there were even mods for TA.
I saw hundreds of fan made units and buildings.
Too bad it lacked easy map editor =.=
wwww
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16993 Posts
July 28 2009 19:09 GMT
#100
On June 15 2009 07:26 .risingdragoon wrote:
closed:

Nice mention on community mapmaking, although it was much bigger than staredit.net, which is a fairly young site.

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 21:26 closed wrote:
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DoTA - based on the "Defense of the Ancients" UMS. This doesn't need any explanations.

Correction: DoTA is "Defense of the Ancients," it was based on a starcraft UMS game called Aeon of Strife.

I know this cus I made Aeon of Strife, I think I still have the final version on a disc somewhere. It was just a peculiar love of the Protoss backstory that I made it, but the basic concept caught on without me as I never went on to map in WC3. Guess it's one of those "turret def" or "diablo" concepts that are instantly understandable and recognizable.

I'm going to resurrect some of the great maps by other mappers that got simply too little attention. Some are just too technically awesome.


Whoa...YOU made Aeon of Strife?

O_o

Haha I used to love playing that game :D
Moderator
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 19:35:08
July 28 2009 19:34 GMT
#101
This thread is a fucking EPIC READ however there is one thing...5-7 years ago when I was a kid playing the shit out of comps on BB. I found something out by just mindlessly clicking on a Bengalass and wondered at that time how few people in the world knew about this. (Even today people who have played SC for 10 years might still not know about it even thou it's just a cute trick and fireworks.)

If you start a game up in single player melee say Jungle Siege (no idea if campaign works) but basically if you click on a CRITTER and it's not how many times u click but you have to hear the audio speech play exactly 14 times and then the critter will die and in it's place a "NUKE" animation will play out but won't do any type of damage. (I think it works on any critter even Kakaru's)

I just tried it and it still works! Go try it for yourself!!! *clickity click*
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
July 28 2009 19:40 GMT
#102
Fun read ... I hope you keep on adding more info.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 28 2009 21:25 GMT
#103
This was an awesome read.
I can't believe I missed out on it the first time.
I played it when Starcraft when it first came out, but I'm surprised at how much I've forgotten.
My phone bill took terrible, terrible damage...
Sullifam
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 28 2009 22:10 GMT
#104
Very nice writeup. Thanks.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
July 29 2009 01:39 GMT
#105
omgomgomg EPIC thread. Love it. thx.
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 29 2009 01:45 GMT
#106
I felt how my heart got all warm and fuzzy inside while reading this.

This is AWESOME.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Daedes
Profile Joined August 2009
Bangladesh105 Posts
February 26 2010 07:10 GMT
#107
Bumping for all the new comers 2 see
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 26 2010 07:21 GMT
#108
Too bad he was banned and can't add to the OP... making it the longest post on TL. Thanks for the bump
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 26 2010 07:25 GMT
#109
hahahahaha

i always laugh when i see the progaming team section
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
February 26 2010 07:41 GMT
#110
brings tears to my eyes
Long live BroodWar!
Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
August 08 2010 23:28 GMT
#111
I will just bump this because i think that some newer people will enjoy reading this. I know i did.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 08 2010 23:36 GMT
#112
Whyd he get banned :O
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 08 2010 23:44 GMT
#113
Thanks for the bump! Awesome thread!! :o
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 00:35:53
August 09 2010 00:06 GMT
#114
wow I didn't even know this thread existed.

oh nevermind I recall reading these.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
August 09 2010 00:34 GMT
#115
wow operation cwal is amazing
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
August 09 2010 00:45 GMT
#116
Whoa this is awesome!
Theres also a pretty good history of SC on the collectors edition (SC2) "making of" disk.
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
August 09 2010 01:21 GMT
#117
Thanks for the epic bump. Had a lot of laughs reading it ^^
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
August 09 2010 01:35 GMT
#118
sweet bump good read, its gonna need an update before all too long
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 09 2010 03:05 GMT
#119
Thanks for the bump!
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
August 09 2010 03:21 GMT
#120
Wow awesome thread
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
August 09 2010 04:26 GMT
#121
Read everything, followed every link. I feel almost proud to be a Starcraft Nerd.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
WookieSlayer2007
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia6 Posts
August 09 2010 05:46 GMT
#122
I love it! It is fascinating and nostalgic. Warcraft 2 had the best soundtrack of any game ever though!
Some people don't take online battleship games seriously
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
August 09 2010 06:13 GMT
#123
wow nice at whoever bumped this!
really cool read, made me realize how earlier StarCraft was like(I joined early 2008)
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
August 09 2010 06:38 GMT
#124
Man in the missile turret never gets old.
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 07:14:41
August 09 2010 07:11 GMT
#125
BAHAHAHA he used my zealots playing poker picture lolol

i made that shit AGES ago

Edit: here lol, i found the link. 2005 haha
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
August 09 2010 07:30 GMT
#126
In a skirmish game If you click on a critter continuously and let the critter speech play 14 times, the critter will explode and in it's place a "nuke" animation will take place, it does no damage however.

Something I found in like 2003 or something while being bored, I doubt there's many in the world that know about it lol.
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
August 09 2010 09:59 GMT
#127
On August 09 2010 16:30 ChaseR wrote:
In a skirmish game If you click on a critter continuously and let the critter speech play 14 times, the critter will explode and in it's place a "nuke" animation will take place, it does no damage however.

Something I found in like 2003 or something while being bored, I doubt there's many in the world that know about it lol.


Nobody knows this... EXCEPT EVERY STARCRAFT PLAYER EVAR!
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
August 09 2010 10:07 GMT
#128
Great post just finished reading it all. Starcraft looked so bad in aplha and beta lol.
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 19:41:44
August 09 2010 19:35 GMT
#129
On August 09 2010 08:36 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Whyd he get banned :O

Maybe Rekrul found the post or maybe it was because he said he used to have another account.

On July 29 2009 04:09 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2009 07:26 .risingdragoon wrote:
closed:

Nice mention on community mapmaking, although it was much bigger than staredit.net, which is a fairly young site.

On June 14 2009 21:26 closed wrote:
[image loading]
DoTA - based on the "Defense of the Ancients" UMS. This doesn't need any explanations.

Correction: DoTA is "Defense of the Ancients," it was based on a starcraft UMS game called Aeon of Strife.

I know this cus I made Aeon of Strife, I think I still have the final version on a disc somewhere. It was just a peculiar love of the Protoss backstory that I made it, but the basic concept caught on without me as I never went on to map in WC3. Guess it's one of those "turret def" or "diablo" concepts that are instantly understandable and recognizable.

I'm going to resurrect some of the great maps by other mappers that got simply too little attention. Some are just too technically awesome.


Whoa...YOU made Aeon of Strife?

O_o

Haha I used to love playing that game :D

Aeon was so hard, I never beat any of the legit hard ones . We knew how, but the teamwork was never there. We would try to get all four guys to go goliath hero, then we'd mass tank minions on this one version, then we'd all gang up on the fourth row before they started sending mass hydralisk, but every game someone would mess up.

Great game. Thanks for making it.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
August 09 2010 19:44 GMT
#130
Most epic thread made by a now-banned user, maybe?
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 09 2010 19:48 GMT
#131

KTF
jinnam, joyo, hovz, rekrul

hanbitsoft
boxer, slayers, limterran, yaoyowan

team liquid
nazgul, meat, john sears, liquid

OGN
reach, assem, gundam, yellow, orange



that's me baby!
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 09 2010 19:50 GMT
#132
On August 09 2010 08:36 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Whyd he get banned :O


closed was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2008-07-30 09:39:22 and had 491 posts.

Reason: Why, thank you for the colorful Private Messages Mr. Closed!! I'm glad you've demonstrated you have no couth, tact, or common sense. Makes my job a lot easier. Thnx!!


Took me a while to find..Also he had a bunch of temp bans and warnings.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
August 09 2010 20:09 GMT
#133
Soooo cool for a newer user (like me) to check out the history thanks!
'HOW LONG HAVE THOSE REAPERS BEEN KILLING MY PROBES?!?!
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
August 09 2010 23:33 GMT
#134
On August 10 2010 04:50 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 08:36 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Whyd he get banned :O


Show nested quote +
closed was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2008-07-30 09:39:22 and had 491 posts.

Reason: Why, thank you for the colorful Private Messages Mr. Closed!! I'm glad you've demonstrated you have no couth, tact, or common sense. Makes my job a lot easier. Thnx!!


Took me a while to find..Also he had a bunch of temp bans and warnings.

Wow, you went through the automated ban list? That never worked for me. Good job.
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
September 19 2012 20:43 GMT
#135
Something like two years old, but it came out after WoL was released, so don't know how many people saw it, and was one of the most entertaining threads I ever read on this site.
(ya, I didn't join until 2010, but I lurked for a long while )
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