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FaZ-
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States188 Posts
June 09 2009 02:32 GMT
#161
I agree with him. Games are for the most part a gigantic waste of time. Time for pleasure is a luxury that most of us take for granted, without realizing how well off we are and how badly many people our age live around the world.
Sharkified
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada254 Posts
June 09 2009 02:36 GMT
#162
I am truly sick of double standards.....

He plays the piano and do martial arts. However he finds that playing video games is a waste of time and won't help humanity.

Sick of it.

MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 02:37:25
June 09 2009 02:36 GMT
#163
LOL. he reminds me my niece in China... or my my sister in Japan... or my friends in Korea... or... or everyone in north asian countries.

This kid is just a smart monkey. His parents push him to work and get good marks so they can be proud blablabla shit.
Comon, there are thousands kids like him back in China, Japan or Korea : young graduated +15454 APM super piano skill + learning some martial arts to protect themself against dumb asses like us.

I don't know if he is smart or not but if he really wanna save the world, he has to be genius.
Oh wait, he said he isn't.
Ok, he should play because he is wasting his time.
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
June 09 2009 02:41 GMT
#164
hahahahha all of you got trolled by an eleven year old

this kid would literally beat the shit out of all of you
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
June 09 2009 02:43 GMT
#165
maybe the kid is pro-troll.
and you guys are getting raged from him.
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
June 09 2009 02:45 GMT
#166
On June 09 2009 11:41 Frits wrote:
hahahahha all of you got trolled by an eleven year old

this kid would literally beat the shit out of all of you

Trolling means intent. Like your post.
This kid actually believes what he is saying. Then again he is 11, so can be forgiven.
Not so sure about you...
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
June 09 2009 02:46 GMT
#167
On June 09 2009 11:41 Frits wrote:
hahahahha all of you got trolled by an eleven year old

this kid would literally beat the shit out of all of you

pfft I can totally beat him up IRL, and in smash bros too
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
June 09 2009 02:47 GMT
#168
On June 09 2009 11:45 Reason wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 11:41 Frits wrote:
hahahahha all of you got trolled by an eleven year old

this kid would literally beat the shit out of all of you

Trolling means intent. Like your post.
This kid actually believes what he is saying. Then again he is 11, so can be forgiven.
Not so sure about you...


Golden.
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
June 09 2009 02:50 GMT
#169
i dont think he is a genius. his parents just unlocked the human minds potential...

his story is possible with any kid. But watch, he will get sooooooooooooo fucked over with life. why? when ur a kid, u learn valuable life lessons from just playing and being silly. u learn from friends. imo thats helping humanity more than graduating from college at the age of 11. The 19-20 year olds have more experience for anything to back up their degrees, and this kid isnt.

His parents are just making him regurgitating things....
feel kinda srry for him.

and besides, happiness spreads really fucking fast. so fun = happiness = more happiness = better for humanity. Bet u didnt learn that from college eh?
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
June 09 2009 03:04 GMT
#170
jesus christ no fun and games as a kid?? i seriously wouldn't wanna be him
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
June 09 2009 03:05 GMT
#171
Most video games were designed to entertain people during their leisure, to entertain them during their free time. How can you expect something designed to help you spend you leisure benefit humanity ?
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 03:15:50
June 09 2009 03:09 GMT
#172
On June 09 2009 11:50 Sonu wrote:
i dont think he is a genius. his parents just unlocked the human minds potential...

his story is possible with any kid.


Wrong, the average 11 year old can't grasp a complex math problem, let alone get a degree in astrophysics. You realize that schools are aware of this and start subjects at the appropriate age. You didn't think they do this to cut you a break or something do you? Don't be silly, the kid is obviously a genius by most standards, his mind is extreeeeemely developed for his age.

But watch, he will get sooooooooooooo fucked over with life. why? when ur a kid, u learn valuable life lessons from just playing and being silly. u learn from friends.


This is simply not true, you don't learn any valuable life lessons from playing around randomly (not really after the age of 3 or so). The reality is that this kid would get incredibly bored with school if he had to attend regular school without skipping classes. About playing with friends: He has plenty of hobbies, stop making assumptions about his social life, I've seen 2 people in this thread mention that prodigies are prone to suicide, I don't know where you're all coming up with this, but simply because the kid studies a lot doesn't mean he has no social life, on the contrary, prodigies have above average social skills.

imo thats helping humanity more than graduating from college at the age of 11. The 19-20 year olds have more experience for anything to back up their degrees, and this kid isnt.


Yeah I'm pretty sure getting to level 80 in world of warcraft is practical experience that backs up your degree.

His parents are just making him regurgitating things....
feel kinda srry for him.


Prodigies do the things they do out of their own interest, you are grossly overestimating his parents' influence. Your parents teaching you their ideas and values is pretty normal by the way, he's not even in adolescence which is the phase in life where you start to rebel against your parents so what's the big deal about the statement.
Faronel
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States658 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 03:11:52
June 09 2009 03:10 GMT
#173
Pffft big deal, I could do it if i didn't spend 90% of my time on SC. But yea, if humanity didn't do anything but science, technology would be so advanced.

...Seriously SC ruined my academics and part of my social life.
C'est la vie...
armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
June 09 2009 03:17 GMT
#174
But Frits, if I don't dismiss him as a nerd who's being forced to learn and will never find happiness in life because he doesn't conform to the standard, how will I be able to maintain my blind feeling of superiority over all people who have different values than me? :'<
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
June 09 2009 03:22 GMT
#175
Wrong, the average 11 year old can't grasp a complex math problem, let alone get a degree in astrophysics. You realize that schools are aware of this and start subjects at the appropriate age. You didn't think they do this to cut you a break or something do you? Don't be silly, the kid is obviously a genius by most standards, his mind is extreeeeemely developed for his age.


The difference is between understanding math and learning math. Many kids in China are just good learners. They do many exercices and repeat it. I know because I've taught some kids there.
In Europe, especially in France, Math has to be understood.
This is a big difference.
So I guess it's possible for every kids, or almost every kids, to just learn math like a poem but much harder to understand it.

This is simply not true, you don't learn any valuable life lessons from playing around randomly. The reality is that this kid would get incredibly bored with school if he had to attend regular school without skipping classes. About playing with friends: he has plenty of hobbies, stop making clueless assumptions about his social life, I've seen 2 people in this thread mention that prodigies are prone to suicide. I don't know where you're coming up with this, simply because the kid studies a lot doesn't mean he has no social life, on the contrary, prodigies have above average social skills.


agreed on suicide point but I believe we learn from playing randomly. Actually, no, we learn when we analyze.
First, I believe playing is an act of creation and even if not, when we play, we wonder why or what or which or when etc. These questions lead us to knowledge. And sometimes, valuable knowledge.
Playing is also helping us to communicate, to socialize.

Here is the talk of Ken Robinson at Ted : LINK

You should watch it.
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
June 09 2009 03:26 GMT
#176
This kid is honestly nothing special. The academic rigour of community college classes is barely more than junior high - he's gifted, sure, but no genius. I'm sure if people were to set aside all social interaction to pursue one or two things they could largely achieve similar degrees of success.

Sidis, on the other hand, is a true prodigy - one that actually bears examination, unlike this poor soul.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1090 Posts
June 09 2009 03:26 GMT
#177
I wish him more fortune in life. Even though his opinions may not be welcomed here on TL i hope he will grow up and accomplish great things to mankind.
mostly harmless
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
June 09 2009 03:28 GMT
#178
On June 09 2009 12:09 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 11:50 Sonu wrote:
i dont think he is a genius. his parents just unlocked the human minds potential...

his story is possible with any kid.


Wrong, the average 11 year old can't grasp a complex math problem, let alone get a degree in astrophysics. You realize that schools are aware of this and start subjects at the appropriate age. You didn't think they do this to cut you a break or something do you? Don't be silly, the kid is obviously a genius by most standards, his mind is extreeeeemely developed for his age.

Show nested quote +
But watch, he will get sooooooooooooo fucked over with life. why? when ur a kid, u learn valuable life lessons from just playing and being silly. u learn from friends.


This is simply not true, you don't learn any valuable life lessons from playing around randomly (not really after the age of 3 or so). The reality is that this kid would get incredibly bored with school if he had to attend regular school without skipping classes. About playing with friends: He has plenty of hobbies, stop making assumptions about his social life, I've seen 2 people in this thread mention that prodigies are prone to suicide, I don't know where you're all coming up with this, but simply because the kid studies a lot doesn't mean he has no social life, on the contrary, prodigies have above average social skills.

Show nested quote +
imo thats helping humanity more than graduating from college at the age of 11. The 19-20 year olds have more experience for anything to back up their degrees, and this kid isnt.


Yeah I'm pretty sure getting to level 80 in world of warcraft is practical experience that backs up your degree.

Show nested quote +
His parents are just making him regurgitating things....
feel kinda srry for him.


Prodigies do the things they do out of their own interest, you are grossly overestimating his parents' influence. Your parents teaching you their ideas and values is pretty normal by the way, he's not even in adolescence which is the phase in life where you start to rebel against your parents so what's the big deal about the statement.

You are making as many baseless assumptions as the people you are refuting.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
June 09 2009 03:35 GMT
#179
http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Resources/AoPS_R_A_Calculus.php
starleague.mit.edu
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
June 09 2009 03:43 GMT
#180
On June 09 2009 12:22 MK wrote:
Show nested quote +
Wrong, the average 11 year old can't grasp a complex math problem, let alone get a degree in astrophysics. You realize that schools are aware of this and start subjects at the appropriate age. You didn't think they do this to cut you a break or something do you? Don't be silly, the kid is obviously a genius by most standards, his mind is extreeeeemely developed for his age.


The difference is between understanding math and learning math. Many kids in China are just good learners. They do many exercices and repeat it. I know because I've taught some kids there.
In Europe, especially in France, Math has to be understood.
This is a big difference.
So I guess it's possible for every kids, or almost every kids, to just learn math like a poem but much harder to understand it.


From a developmental perspective kids simply can't grasp complex problems until around the age 12, this has been reinforced by countless of studies. I'm not sure what you're disputing here, are you suggesting that this kid does not grasp the things he learned? While I agree that there are people who are incredibly good at remembering things through cognitive strategies, that's definately not the case here. Look at the article, this kid tutored people in college.

And kids want to know how things work, this starts at a young age, if you simply make kids study material without them being able to grasp it, they would quickly lose interest, this is not a stimulating environment at all for children.

Show nested quote +
This is simply not true, you don't learn any valuable life lessons from playing around randomly. The reality is that this kid would get incredibly bored with school if he had to attend regular school without skipping classes. About playing with friends: he has plenty of hobbies, stop making clueless assumptions about his social life, I've seen 2 people in this thread mention that prodigies are prone to suicide. I don't know where you're coming up with this, simply because the kid studies a lot doesn't mean he has no social life, on the contrary, prodigies have above average social skills.


agreed on suicide point but I believe we learn from playing randomly. Actually, no, we learn when we analyze.
First, I believe playing is an act of creation and even if not, when we play, we wonder why or what or which or when etc. These questions lead us to knowledge. And sometimes, valuable knowledge.
Playing is also helping us to communicate, to socialize.

Here is the talk of Ken Robinson at Ted : LINK

You should watch it.


There are many types of learning, habituation, perceptual, statistical, classical conditioning, instrumental conditioning and observational learning, none of these state the requirement of 'playing around randomly'. A child needs a stimulating environment, imagine right now having to sit through the 3rd grade in elementary, you would be bored.

And I know that schools can decrease intrinsic motivation on things, I wrote an article and held a speech on it a few months ago myself. It's irrelevant here. This kid has received a lot of attention while growing up, his environment is basically talored to his needs. This is standard procedure with prodegies.
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