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Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
June 09 2009 03:45 GMT
#181
Lol there is a difference between understanding community college math and being able to solve real math problems at Olympiad or research level.
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
June 09 2009 03:47 GMT
#182
On June 09 2009 12:28 Reason wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 12:09 Frits wrote:
On June 09 2009 11:50 Sonu wrote:
i dont think he is a genius. his parents just unlocked the human minds potential...

his story is possible with any kid.


Wrong, the average 11 year old can't grasp a complex math problem, let alone get a degree in astrophysics. You realize that schools are aware of this and start subjects at the appropriate age. You didn't think they do this to cut you a break or something do you? Don't be silly, the kid is obviously a genius by most standards, his mind is extreeeeemely developed for his age.

But watch, he will get sooooooooooooo fucked over with life. why? when ur a kid, u learn valuable life lessons from just playing and being silly. u learn from friends.


This is simply not true, you don't learn any valuable life lessons from playing around randomly (not really after the age of 3 or so). The reality is that this kid would get incredibly bored with school if he had to attend regular school without skipping classes. About playing with friends: He has plenty of hobbies, stop making assumptions about his social life, I've seen 2 people in this thread mention that prodigies are prone to suicide, I don't know where you're all coming up with this, but simply because the kid studies a lot doesn't mean he has no social life, on the contrary, prodigies have above average social skills.

imo thats helping humanity more than graduating from college at the age of 11. The 19-20 year olds have more experience for anything to back up their degrees, and this kid isnt.


Yeah I'm pretty sure getting to level 80 in world of warcraft is practical experience that backs up your degree.

His parents are just making him regurgitating things....
feel kinda srry for him.


Prodigies do the things they do out of their own interest, you are grossly overestimating his parents' influence. Your parents teaching you their ideas and values is pretty normal by the way, he's not even in adolescence which is the phase in life where you start to rebel against your parents so what's the big deal about the statement.

You are making as many baseless assumptions as the people you are refuting.


lol @ the irony of that statement

I'm actually looking and checking most of the things I mention here up in a textbook on child psychology which I read 2 months ago (Siegel, Deloache, Eisenberg, 2006). Feel free to point out the baseless assumptions though.
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
June 09 2009 03:52 GMT
#183
On June 09 2009 12:45 Muirhead wrote:
Lol there is a difference between understanding community college math and being able to solve real math problems at Olympiad or research level.


:D
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wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
June 09 2009 03:53 GMT
#184
lol.. eleven year olds.
I know where my towel is.
iPF[Div]
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain572 Posts
June 09 2009 04:04 GMT
#185
If he's such a genius why the fuck did he go to community college.
Since ma jae yoon and jin young soo stabbed me in the fucking back, i've got no one to rep here.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
June 09 2009 04:06 GMT
#186
Martial Arts is a more valuable activity than Gaming. It encourages healthy living, teaches mental balance and focus, and creates strength, dexterity, and endurance. Gaming contributes to a sedentary lifestyle
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
June 09 2009 04:11 GMT
#187
I bet I could still whoop his monkey *explicative deleted* and I don't have any martial arts training, though I do box. Eat that 11 year old!
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
June 09 2009 04:14 GMT
#188
On June 09 2009 12:26 Last Romantic wrote:
This kid is honestly nothing special. The academic rigour of community college classes is barely more than junior high - he's gifted, sure, but no genius. I'm sure if people were to set aside all social interaction to pursue one or two things they could largely achieve similar degrees of success.

Sidis, on the other hand, is a true prodigy - one that actually bears examination, unlike this poor soul.


Like I mentioned before, this is not true at all. This kid is special by all norms in developmental psychology. Define the difference between gifted and genius. You're simply relativating something by picking an even more extreme example. If someone differs 5 standard deviations from the norm, the statistical significance of that does not simply fade by the existence of someone who differs 10 sd's from the norm.

If you were to set aside all social interaction you would still get nowhere close to what this kid achieved because the mind of a normal child would simply not be able to comprehend the problems with it's underdeveloped brain. It's not a matter of investing time, that's not how intelligence develops.
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
June 09 2009 04:18 GMT
#189
On June 09 2009 13:06 GeneralStan wrote:
Martial Arts is a more valuable activity than Gaming. It encourages healthy living, teaches mental balance and focus, and creates strength, dexterity, and endurance. Gaming contributes to a sedentary lifestyle


Wii anyone?
No no no no its not mine!
sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
June 09 2009 04:22 GMT
#190
On June 09 2009 13:04 iPF[Div] wrote:
If he's such a genius why the fuck did he go to community college.


Ahaha QFT.

Seriously though, he started college at age 8....I mean i'm sure the course material was pretty advanced and I don't doubt he is gifted, but honestly you could shove a lot of people into similar situations and they would come out ok. If I went to community college at age 14 or whatever and had things specifically laid out for me (as I'm sure this kid had), I doubt I would do too bad.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 09 2009 04:25 GMT
#191
On June 09 2009 02:45 yrag89 wrote:
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HUMANITY


OK W....T....F.....

I have that same tiger wall scroll 2 feet to my right hanging on my wall.

THAT IS SO CREEPY D: D: D: D:
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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 04:27:52
June 09 2009 04:26 GMT
#192
On June 09 2009 13:06 GeneralStan wrote:
Martial Arts is a more valuable activity than Gaming. It encourages healthy living, teaches mental balance and focus, and creates strength, dexterity, and endurance. Gaming contributes to a sedentary lifestyle
Unless you're teaching martial arts and encouraging all of those principles to people (which doesn't seem to be the case for him), then I don't see how it could be considered beneficial to humanity while games aren't.

His argument isn't that martial arts are more valuable than games, it's that games are a waste of time because it doesn't benefit humanity...which could be said about a lot of things he does.
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 04:38:41
June 09 2009 04:36 GMT
#193
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
June 09 2009 04:36 GMT
#194
Mix of Jewish and Asian genes and upbringing? Too easy. It would be difficult not to be a genius.
Xela
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada203 Posts
June 09 2009 04:38 GMT
#195
On June 09 2009 01:32 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 01:24 Klockan3 wrote:
I am sure that the average person could graduate college by at least the age of 15 if the parents just raised them correctly, but the deal is that there are other things in life than just getting a college degree...


lol

I think he maybe right. The younger you are, the more things you are able to learn fast because your brain is not fully developped. If you began school at 3-4 years old and continued every year for 300/365 days (instead of like 180/365 like it is now) you would probably finish college at 15-16. Yes you basically sacrifice your childhood, but in theory it would be possible for almost everyone if they are able to endure that schedule for 12 years.
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 04:40:29
June 09 2009 04:39 GMT
#196
On June 09 2009 13:36 tomatriedes wrote:
Mix of Jewish and Asian genes and upbringing? Too easy. It would be difficult not to be a genius.


god, if he was a girl and Swedish+Asian+Jewish I'l totally change my comments... actually, to be Swedish girl is enough for me to change my comments :p
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
June 09 2009 04:43 GMT
#197
[image loading]
Oh no
LuckyOne
Profile Joined December 2006
266 Posts
June 09 2009 05:05 GMT
#198
On June 09 2009 13:14 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 12:26 Last Romantic wrote:
This kid is honestly nothing special. The academic rigour of community college classes is barely more than junior high - he's gifted, sure, but no genius. I'm sure if people were to set aside all social interaction to pursue one or two things they could largely achieve similar degrees of success.

Sidis, on the other hand, is a true prodigy - one that actually bears examination, unlike this poor soul.


Like I mentioned before, this is not true at all. This kid is special by all norms in developmental psychology. Define the difference between gifted and genius. You're simply relativating something by picking an even more extreme example. If someone differs 5 standard deviations from the norm, the statistical significance of that does not simply fade by the existence of someone who differs 10 sd's from the norm.

If you were to set aside all social interaction you would still get nowhere close to what this kid achieved because the mind of a normal child would simply not be able to comprehend the problems with it's underdeveloped brain. It's not a matter of investing time, that's not how intelligence develops.

well i guess he didnt go to a normal school before college, so whats special is the environment his parents crafted , plus his ability to be a tool.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
June 09 2009 05:19 GMT
#199
This kid has no life >
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
June 09 2009 05:27 GMT
#200
11year old kid is prodigy troll
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