About a month ago, I was one of the lucky winners of the Razer Headphones Contest here on TeamLiquid. As a result, today I received a free pair of the Razer Mako In-Ear Headphones.
Since TeamLiquid was so nice to me, I figured I'd give something back and write a review of the headphones to give other gamers an idea about the Morays.
Let's start with some pictures.
Here's the box:
Here's the back of one of the earbuds. The grey thing on the back is a shiny plastic gem, but the shine didn't come up on my camera.
Here's the front of an earbud:
And here you can see the earbuds and the jack, which is gold plated for good conduction.
And now the review
To test out new headphones, my favorite thing to do is to listen to the live version of Hotel California, by The Eagles on their Hell Freezes Over tour. This is a great quality recording of a great song that has a lot of subtlety to it, which in my opinion really tests headphones' clarity at all ranges.
The headphones I will be comparing these to are the headphones I usually use to listen to music. They are the Ultimate Ears SuperFi Pro 5. These are no joke headphones. They are very expensive ($250), and they are quite simply the best quality headphones I have ever heard in my life, and I've listened to quite a few Sennheisers, Sonys, and Boses. In other words, the Moray's got some tough competition.
Style
Personally I much prefer the black Morays to the white ones, but I got these headphones for free and I'm sure not going to complain. The black ones are stylish and subtle, and the little gem on the back looks cool below the Razer logo. In comparison, the SuperFis stick out quite a bit from the ear and look a little awkward.
Sound Quality
Treble: Many headphones in a similar price range to the Morays have a lot of trouble with treble clarity. Most of them cater to people that don't know what they want (as pretentious as that sounds) and go overboard with bass and don't have nearly enough treble or any clarity in it. I was listening for this specifically with these headphones, and they really came through. The treble clarity was comparable to the SuperFis, something I really wasn't expecting. Bass: That being said, these definitely have more bass than the SuperFis, and in my opinion a little more than is probably accurate. Still, these headphones are intended for gaming, not music, and while gaming I actually much prefer the higher bass to the low bass on the SuperFis. When you're playing Counter-Strike: Source and you shoot an awp, it's much more satisfying on the Morays. The bass clarity's not bad, but while listening to Hotel California once the song really got going I could definitely hear that it wasn't as good as the SuperFis. This was to be expected of course, since the SuperFis are dual driver while the Morays are single driver headphones. Still, the bass is able to cut through and sounds pretty darn good while gaming. Mids: The mids are the Moray's weak point for sure. The bass can cut through and the treble is way better than I expected, but the mids seem a little bit cut, and just no where near as clear as the SuperFis. The vocals in Hotel California were quieter and not as clear as they were when listening to the SuperFis.
Value
Hands down the Morays are better value than the SuperFis. The SuperFis are very high end monitors that you would only purchase if you are an audiophile. They are very expensive as a result. The Morays, on the other hand, are only a mere $40.00 from the Razer Store. For their price they blew me away. They are definitely better than many higher end headphones I have listened to that are in the $100-150 range.
I would definitely recommend any gamer looking for a good pair of gaming earbuds to get the Razer Moray. This is not a paid review, and I am only posting my opinion. I really do think these are some fantastic headphones for the price, and if you listen to them you'll see it would be silly to pay twice or three times as much for other headphones with less quality.
I apologize for my camera's terrible quality. Also, I wasn't sure if this should be in general or a blog, but I figured I wanted as many people as possible to see this so they could benefit from it so I put it in general.
Edit: One thing I felt I should add is that the morays actually have very good noise isolation. Better than the SuperFis. My computer is like a jet engine, so this is really nice as it helps mute out the fan sound.
That was a nice review. In the box in the picture what is the big white thing in the middle with 2 big prongs sticking out. It looks like it would be a charger or something but that must not be right.
On April 11 2009 09:39 Jonoman92 wrote: That was a nice review. In the box in the picture what is the big white thing in the middle with 2 big prongs sticking out. It looks like it would be a charger or something but that must not be right.
It is a converter to a dual-pronged jack. These are most common on airplanes, where they have two mono jacks instead of one stereo jack (I think the original reason was to force people to buy their on-board headphones for 5 bucks or whatever), so with that converter you can listen on airplanes without only having one ear playing.
Hrm, I've been needing some new headphones for a while now. I'll consider investing on a pair of them. $40 is pretty cheap considering the quality that you described.
I bought this waaaaaaaaaay before the contest was announced, because I'm a HUGE Razer fanboy (Armadillo, Lycosa, Krait, Deathadder, Mantis Control, Moray (2, in fact, because the rubber part holding the two wires got turn, and it got all dirty [it was white])). And this is one kick-ass pair of earbuds, its noise isolatio so good I keep missing calls when I'm using them, despite my phone being just a few feet away.
On April 11 2009 09:39 Jonoman92 wrote: That was a nice review. In the box in the picture what is the big white thing in the middle with 2 big prongs sticking out. It looks like it would be a charger or something but that must not be right.
It is a converter to a dual-pronged jack. These are most common on airplanes, where they have two mono jacks instead of one stereo jack (I think the original reason was to force people to buy their on-board headphones for 5 bucks or whatever), so with that converter you can listen on airplanes without only having one ear playing.
Oh, you can actually use the earbuds without the converter, but it's quite a pain stuffing it in and back, might spoil the jack o_O
Comes in handy, these earbuds are much better than the headphones the flight attendants give you.
Thanks for sharing! I'm currently using a JVC in-ear headphone but it doesn't really isolate the noise that well (I'm a bus commuter and those things make NOISE) so I might go for one of these in the future.
The worst part about these kinds of headphones is that sometimes I just zone out on the bus, staring at the scenery, and I totally ignore when a friend says 'hi' to me!
Could you list some of the ones in the 100~150s range that you compared the Moray to (the ones that you found inferior to the Moray). While the review gave a pretty good idea of the headphone being good quality for the price, it doesn't quite give an absolute and definitive quality.
Holy god this is a nice and thorough review. Extremely professional sounding IMO, almost sounding like a paid review *check's orb's posting history*
Honestly, I don't need anything new soon, but if my current headphones break/have issues I would buy these without a doubt (cheap price, plus it's fucking Razor, they sponsored the TSL!).
On April 11 2009 12:50 PobTheCad wrote: surely if you are heading into the 150 range for ear 'buds' you might as well buy proper headphones instead?
your ears don't hurt as much after using them
Yes but "proper" headphones aren't as handy as buds. I bought my Sennheiser CX400s because I wanted something I could wear while jogging/snowboarding/going to school and what not. They're very practical and never come out. There's a reason they made expensive buds too, you know.
How's the construction quality and what's their warranty?
The wiring seems pretty thin so it might wear away after a while. I've gone through 2 pairs of V-Moda Vibes and the casing wore away on both before a year, largely because the connection to the bud was so stupidly designed.
On April 11 2009 13:41 Jibba wrote: How's the construction quality and what's their warranty?
The wiring seems pretty thin so it might wear away after a while. I've gone through 2 pairs of V-Moda Vibes and the casing wore away on both before a year, largely because the connection to the bud was so stupidly designed.
The surrounding skin of the bud seems to start wearing after half a year of use... makes it look unsightly.
Thanks for the review, might consider buying one. For those who are also wanting to get one for themselves, Buy.com has it also for only $30 with free shipping. And for those who uses ebay and Live cashback, you can get $3 dollars off the purchase.
On April 11 2009 12:57 EvilTeletubby wrote: Holy god this is a nice and thorough review. Extremely professional sounding IMO, almost sounding like a paid review *check's orb's posting history*
Honestly, I don't need anything new soon, but if my current headphones break/have issues I would buy these without a doubt (cheap price, plus it's fucking Razor, they sponsored the TSL!).
Thanks! I tried to make it as nice to read as possible
On April 11 2009 13:41 Jibba wrote: How's the construction quality and what's their warranty?
The wiring seems pretty thin so it might wear away after a while. I've gone through 2 pairs of V-Moda Vibes and the casing wore away on both before a year, largely because the connection to the bud was so stupidly designed.
Construction quality seems nice enough atm, but it's always hard to tell these kinds of things when you first start using something. The warranty is one year if I remember correctly.
The cable certainly isn't the highest quality. It's a very lightweight standard cable, nothing fancy. I just got it so I don't know if this is due to misuse or what, but I think at least two people have replied to the thread saying that the two cables came apart. This isn't a problem at all on the SuperFis by contrast, as the cable is extremely high quality on those and feels very sturdy.
On April 11 2009 12:50 PobTheCad wrote: surely if you are heading into the 150 range for ear 'buds' you might as well buy proper headphones instead?
your ears don't hurt as much after using them
I've used studio headphones and the highest end bose headphones etc.
I actually had a bud die on my SuperFis so maybe I just have bad luck with earbuds. D:
Right now I'm using Nuforce NE-7s and they're very nice. Good quality (although the molds it shipped with weren't as good as the V-Moda molds, so I'm using those) and thicker cables/connection, plus it comes with a clip so I can redirect the tension away from the buds.
I've basically decided not to pay more than $50 for earbuds, simply because I know even the best earbuds are going to have issues with the wiring after a few years.
On April 11 2009 14:32 Jibba wrote: I actually had a bud die on my SuperFis so maybe I just have bad luck with earbuds. D:
Right now I'm using Nuforce NE-7s and they're very nice. Good quality (although the molds it shipped with weren't as good as the V-Moda molds, so I'm using those) and thicker cables/connection, plus it comes with a clip so I can redirect the tension away from the buds.
I've basically decided not to pay more than $50 for earbuds, simply because I know even the best earbuds are going to have issues with the wiring after a few years.
Not to say anything personal, but some people just don't take care of their headphones.
I've had my SuperFis for over 3 years and I don't have a single problem with them.
Also ultimate ears offers free cable replacement if your cable is broken, because they made it so it's easy to detach the cable from the headphone if you need to. Pretty good design imo
I don't think I've been too bad with any of them, especially not the V-Modas. The SuperFis were a while ago, but I think one of the buds just started to go after a couple months. I'm pretty careful about how I wrap/store them and they don't get yanked around much. I actually have a pair of Sony E51s for the gym that get treated much worse (sweat, accidental tugging, etc.), and they've lasted the longest out of any.
I was planning on writing some sort a review when I got mine but it looks like you got yours first. Then again you definitely did a better job than I would have :p Damn I'm even more hyped up about receiving them now! Can't wait. Thanks for the cool review.
Sony and bose both have shitty IEMs i wouldnt compare with those. Sennheisers are pretty decent value and in the same price range i'd like to know how you compare those to the morays. and just as a side note why did you pay that much for superfi 5s? arent they only like 150-200? Either way there's better headphones you can pick up at that price range. (ah nvm i guess the pro model does retail at 250) I'm currently using V-moda vibes and have a pair of denon's on the shelf (great bass...harsh highs ) If you can find a pair of vibes at your local costco i'd recommend picking them up (unless you'd like to support razer and TL :-p ) Sound is great but as jibba says the construction is stupid so take care of them. also some of them have different style cables for some reason, the one im using now seems to be more solid than my previous pair
On April 11 2009 14:16 -orb- wrote: I've used studio headphones and the highest end bose headphones etc.
None of them are as good as my SuperFi 5 Pros.
are bose still recognised as a good audio brand? i thought alot had changed in the past 20 years personally i dont see how you could get the same bass response (and noise cancellation) from buds as opposed to phones
On April 11 2009 14:16 -orb- wrote: I've used studio headphones and the highest end bose headphones etc.
None of them are as good as my SuperFi 5 Pros.
are bose still recognised as a good audio brand? i thought alot had changed in the past 20 years personally i dont see how you could get the same bass response (and noise cancellation) from buds as opposed to phones
Bose is generally shat upon nowadays for being overpriced for lower quality. Needless to say it still sells as well as ipods do. as far as speakers, klipsch and polk are pretty good, and for OEMs sennheiser is pretty rape, then IEMs have a bunch of different brands/models, too many to generalize. but the bose iems are pretty bad from what i hear.
On April 11 2009 14:16 -orb- wrote: I've used studio headphones and the highest end bose headphones etc.
None of them are as good as my SuperFi 5 Pros.
are bose still recognised as a good audio brand? i thought alot had changed in the past 20 years personally i dont see how you could get the same bass response (and noise cancellation) from buds as opposed to phones
Any audiophile knows bose is pretty much shit nowadays, but all of mainstream thinks bose is like top-end best of the best stuff.
Like the kinds of people that walk around listening to their ipods on the earbuds that come with the ipod (ugh.... I'd rather not listen at all... actually I'd rather scratch nails against a chalk board).
Ever since I really got into audio a couple years ago I started watching everyone on the subway/etc and a SURPRISINGLY high number of people use the shitty quality ipod earbuds.
I'd bet over 90% of those people would say bose is really high quality headphones if you asked them.
On April 12 2009 17:08 -orb- wrote: Any audiophile knows bose is pretty much shit nowadays, but all of mainstream thinks bose is like top-end best of the best stuff.
Like the kinds of people that walk around listening to their ipods on the earbuds that come with the ipod (ugh.... I'd rather not listen at all... actually I'd rather scratch nails against a chalk board).
Ever since I really got into audio a couple years ago I started watching everyone on the subway/etc and a SURPRISINGLY high number of people use the shitty quality ipod earbuds.
I'd bet over 90% of those people would say bose is really high quality headphones if you asked them.
i have some good bose speakers , they were made at least 25 years ago in the USA the ones nowdays are made in china and are not speakers so much as 'lifestyle packages' the same can be said of ipod phones , people wear them to be seen with them not because they are good quality as such
On April 11 2009 12:57 EvilTeletubby wrote: Holy god this is a nice and thorough review. Extremely professional sounding IMO, almost sounding like a paid review *check's orb's posting history*
Honestly, I don't need anything new soon, but if my current headphones break/have issues I would buy these without a doubt (cheap price, plus it's fucking Razor, they sponsored the TSL!).
On April 11 2009 14:16 -orb- wrote: I've used studio headphones and the highest end bose headphones etc.
None of them are as good as my SuperFi 5 Pros.
personally i dont see how you could get the same bass response (and noise cancellation) from buds as opposed to phones
We're talking about in-ear (in-canal) buds here. They offer GREAT noise cancellation. Too good even. It's quite dangerous to go jogging or roller-blading with these because you can't hear car horns if the volume is too high. My CX400s offer better bass response and noise cancellation then the HD555s although I do admit that the HD555s have better sound quality overall (treble is more clear, mids sound a bit better also). If you haven't tried in-canal buds, please do, you'll see what we mean (although it takes like a week to get used to the sensation).
Also:
On April 13 2009 00:04 Xenixx wrote: $40.00 is such a steep pricetag for earbuds
Nice review! My soundport is pretty fucked up, so buying new head/earphones would be stupid in my situation, but still thanks for sharing your experience and grats on winnin
On April 13 2009 00:53 Xenixx wrote: Yeah good lord, I'm partly deaf from exposure but you couldn't convince me to buy earbuds over $40.00 and $300.00? forget about it
Actually, $399.99 is closer to $400 I never thought that the x9.99 actually works on people's minds. Psychological warfare ftw.
I doubt they're 3 times as good as Shure's model. In fact, I doubt they're even noticeably better. Also they don't look like they really stick in the ear that well, tho I can't really tell.
: I'd bet over 90% of those people would say bose is really high quality headphones if you asked them.
I'm really glad I read this thread. That would definitely include me, for the simple reason that in the UK, the only headphone adverts I ever see are bose. Apparently trusting people who's intent is to sell me their stuff isn't smart
In the next few months I'm looking to get some high end headphones -as an audiophile, what would you recommend if i have around 100 UK Pounds to play with? I'm mainly a rock music fan, but have recently been getting very into classical, and slightly into jazz. Will I have to compromise on which genre I want to hear best? Also, this may sound like a stupid question, but is there a significant difference in sound quality between different MP3 players? I have between 100-150 pounds to spend on one.
Also, they definitely sit in your ear VERY well, because they are custom made from a mold of your ear... you have to go to some ear specialist or something and get a mold taken to be sent in to ultimate ears for them to make one.
I mean they're for musicians on stage, they're personal monitors.
: I'd bet over 90% of those people would say bose is really high quality headphones if you asked them.
I'm really glad I read this thread. That would definitely include me, for the simple reason that in the UK, the only headphone adverts I ever see are bose. Apparently trusting people who's intent is to sell me their stuff isn't smart
In the next few months I'm looking to get some high end headphones -as an audiophile, what would you recommend if i have around 100 UK Pounds to play with? I'm mainly a rock music fan, but have recently been getting very into classical, and slightly into jazz. Will I have to compromise on which genre I want to hear best? Also, this may sound like a stupid question, but is there a significant difference in sound quality between different MP3 players? I have between 100-150 pounds to spend on one.
You pretty much can't go wrong with anything from Ultimate Ears. High end shures are very good as well. I don't know the exchange rate, but if 100 pounds gets you up to 250 US dollars (the dollar is pretty weak...), definitely go with the utlimate ears SuperFi 5 Pros, as those are the ones I was comparing in the entire review and they are definitely the best headphones I've ever heard.
Also I've never heard a difference in quality between different mp3 players, but then again I've never owned anything other than an iPod
In a sense, at your medium-high end price range, yes, you end up compromising a little bit for what your favorite genre is, but not nearly as much as you do with low-end headphones.
I mean obviously like the UE10s/11s for example are going to be able to cater to all styles better because they have 4 freakin drivers lol...
: I'd bet over 90% of those people would say bose is really high quality headphones if you asked them.
I'm really glad I read this thread. That would definitely include me, for the simple reason that in the UK, the only headphone adverts I ever see are bose. Apparently trusting people who's intent is to sell me their stuff isn't smart
In the next few months I'm looking to get some high end headphones -as an audiophile, what would you recommend if i have around 100 UK Pounds to play with? I'm mainly a rock music fan, but have recently been getting very into classical, and slightly into jazz. Will I have to compromise on which genre I want to hear best? Also, this may sound like a stupid question, but is there a significant difference in sound quality between different MP3 players? I have between 100-150 pounds to spend on one.
Yes there is a significant difference in the sound quality of different MP3 players, but you'll need to check reviews and comparisons for that. Either way, the good brands should deliver good quality, cheaper things would deliver worse quality.
As for headphones. I'd go for the Sennheiser HD555. They're the best headphones I've listened to in your price range. I've also heard Technics, Phillips, and Sony headphones (can't remember exact models) that cost about 100e or cheaper, and none of them sounded as good as the Sennheisers. And to the person recommending the UEs, no, 100pounds won't bring you even close to $250. 1 pound is slightly larger then 1 euro. Google says: 100 British pounds = 146.46 U.S. dollars
Amazingly strong bass, crisp trebles, not too much noise isolation to the point of uncomfortableness (like some Shures), and a sweet looking full-metal (lol) construction. The only problem is that within half to a year of using them, one of the wires will most likely come lose, causing sound in one of the earbuds to just completely die. Fortunately, they have a 1-year warranty, and I've even heard that they'll cover a full replacement for that problem even after the warranty's over.
The shure ones are amazing! I swear, my sister bought them for herself and ended up keeping them from how much I used them. They're amazing best earbuds i have ever used. Back on topic, morrays seem pretty cool. I need new headphones from razer 'cause the ones I had broke already ;\
Amazingly strong bass, crisp trebles, not too much noise isolation to the point of uncomfortableness (like some Shures), and a sweet looking full-metal (lol) construction. The only problem is that within half to a year of using them, one of the wires will most likely come lose, causing sound in one of the earbuds to just completely die. Fortunately, they have a 1-year warranty, and I've even heard that they'll cover a full replacement for that problem even after the warranty's over.
Not gonna lie, those are really fuckin cool looking.
On April 13 2009 07:55 frankbg wrote: I'm puzzled as to why people would want to buy 250$ earbuds ... honestly, get regular headphones?
At $250 they aren't really "earbuds" like ipod headphones, but in-ear monitors. Why do people get them? Small, and better noise isolation than headphones, with good sound quality.
good review. i have only used one razer product - the diamondback 3g - and it's awesome. the only downside is that the clicks are pretty loud, although i am sure there is a way to fix it. i don't mind it since i use silencing headphones anyway. go razer
I like the morays, I have them too, but the right and left wires separated... and it gets really messy... anyone know easy way to fix this? I tried taping them together... dont work so well
damn, those are expensive. I have gaming ones too and they're the Steelseries In-ear Siberias, which comes with a mic too and they're $30. I dunno if they're just as good as the Moray, but I'm satisfied with the product.
On April 13 2009 02:19 Tal wrote: In the next few months I'm looking to get some high end headphones -as an audiophile, what would you recommend if i have around 100 UK Pounds to play with? I'm mainly a rock music fan, but have recently been getting very into classical, and slightly into jazz. Will I have to compromise on which genre I want to hear best? Also, this may sound like a stupid question, but is there a significant difference in sound quality between different MP3 players? I have between 100-150 pounds to spend on one.
: I'd bet over 90% of those people would say bose is really high quality headphones if you asked them.
I'm really glad I read this thread. That would definitely include me, for the simple reason that in the UK, the only headphone adverts I ever see are bose. Apparently trusting people who's intent is to sell me their stuff isn't smart
In the next few months I'm looking to get some high end headphones -as an audiophile, what would you recommend if i have around 100 UK Pounds to play with? I'm mainly a rock music fan, but have recently been getting very into classical, and slightly into jazz. Will I have to compromise on which genre I want to hear best? Also, this may sound like a stupid question, but is there a significant difference in sound quality between different MP3 players? I have between 100-150 pounds to spend on one.
For in ear buds at that price range (someone already mentioned these) the phonek audeo pfe are a good buy. Another good choice is Future sonics atrio m5. Those would be my picks for IEM based on what i've read. If you'rel ooking for headphones (over the ear) just pick the sennheiser model that fits in you're budget, you wont be disappointed ^_^
Also, mp3 players make a big difference. Currently the sansa clip (very small/cheap player) has probably the best sound on the market. ipod is generally on the lower end of sound quality. other brands that generally have good quality are creative and cowon. another thing that is supposed to make a huge difference is a headphone amplifier, can't say i've ever tried one though.
Headphone.com agrees with your appraisal if they are :
We feel these miniaturized mobile-application cans equal the audio performance of some ECHs at double the cost. The AH-C351k have very potent, smooth, and well-expressed musical detail high & low although they are somewhat recessed in the mid-ranges. This may be a clinker especially for the picky audio geek who prefers vocals & female voices out front but for most listeners wanting a giant knock-down audio AND in-ear fit improvement to the earbuds or ECHs that came with your iPod or Mp3 player, the DENON C351k are a guaranteed can't miss. And the very affordable price sure sounds darn good too.
: I'd bet over 90% of those people would say bose is really high quality headphones if you asked them.
I'm really glad I read this thread. That would definitely include me, for the simple reason that in the UK, the only headphone adverts I ever see are bose. Apparently trusting people who's intent is to sell me their stuff isn't smart
In the next few months I'm looking to get some high end headphones -as an audiophile, what would you recommend if i have around 100 UK Pounds to play with? I'm mainly a rock music fan, but have recently been getting very into classical, and slightly into jazz. Will I have to compromise on which genre I want to hear best? Also, this may sound like a stupid question, but is there a significant difference in sound quality between different MP3 players? I have between 100-150 pounds to spend on one.
If you want a great place to research, check out headphone.com
Priced in USD, but you can get most of those in the UK as well. The information is what's important. I've got a pair of Sennheiser HD-280 Pros which I adore - they're big and full-ear headphones, mind, but the sound is stellar for a low price. They may not be ideal for jazz or classical, though, being closed headphones. You'd probably want something open like the Sennheiser HD595. Bliss on your ears, and you can get them for a ton at Amazon UK - bargain!
shit... I think I'm going to buy a pair now, lol! Been eyeing an open set for a while, haha.
On April 14 2009 01:43 jgad wrote: I doubt Razer is actually producing headphones of their own. Those look a hell of a lot like rebranded Denon AH-C351Ks.
Headphone.com agrees with your appraisal if they are :
We feel these miniaturized mobile-application cans equal the audio performance of some ECHs at double the cost. The AH-C351k have very potent, smooth, and well-expressed musical detail high & low although they are somewhat recessed in the mid-ranges. This may be a clinker especially for the picky audio geek who prefers vocals & female voices out front but for most listeners wanting a giant knock-down audio AND in-ear fit improvement to the earbuds or ECHs that came with your iPod or Mp3 player, the DENON C351k are a guaranteed can't miss. And the very affordable price sure sounds darn good too.
Yeah those look exactly the same, that's probably what's going on.
Strange though, afaik the Mako is made by Razer themselves, and every single thing I've heard about the Mako is positive.
On April 14 2009 19:10 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: its moray not mako!
hey jgad i'm a razer employee and the morays were designed in the office i'm currently sitting in, they are not rebranded as far as i know
I know that's what I'm saying is that the Mako is designed by razer themselves, so they definitely have the sound technology to be able to make the Morays.
On April 14 2009 19:10 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: its moray not mako!
hey jgad i'm a razer employee and the morays were designed in the office i'm currently sitting in, they are not rebranded as far as i know
Then Razer are a bunch of design pinching thieves, lol. It's the exact same headset - look at it. The "design" couldn't have been more than deciding where to put the logo.
On April 14 2009 19:10 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: its moray not mako!
hey jgad i'm a razer employee and the morays were designed in the office i'm currently sitting in, they are not rebranded as far as i know
I know that's what I'm saying is that the Mako is designed by razer themselves, so they definitely have the sound technology to be able to make the Morays.
I don't know about the Mako, all I can say is that the Morays look like imports. Big speakers are easier to "design" anyway - you buy the drivers, get someone to make a few injection moulds and assemble - job done. Buying good full-size naked drivers is not a small market to fish in. I don't think anyone making in-ear phones, though, sells their hi-def drivers - you get the whole thing and that's it. In both cases, I don't think anyone was "designing" anything related to the audio - at least not like what would happen at Sennheiser or Cerwin Vega - more just buying pieces and putting them together.
The Mako has a down-firing sub. Razer promotes this in a way that makes it sound as though they innovated this concept and that it is unique to them - they didn't, and it isn't. Lots of subs are down-firing. All I'm saying is that Razer, I would bet, does not employ any serious acoustic engineers or guys designing coil windings - like most companies that produce speaker sets, they more than likely just selected a set of pre-existing drivers and designed a case to put them into. They borrowed a few techs from THX to make it awesome, stir it into the mix, and job done. That's what they do - they're a design company, not an audio company. In the case of the Morays, you can't, as far as I know, buy IEM drivers to do this with, so you have to rebrand if you want them in your lineup. I'm not making a value judgement about any of this, of course - just an observation.
I just bought these too and the sound is amazing, but.... I'm hearing a soft buzz wherever they are plugged in (i tried my computer obviously and my little sister's ipod). Are they just fucked and should I send them back or is there a way to fix it?
I got mine yesterday from the contest fakesteve hosted and they worked just fine from the start... Don't know what could be wrong, but I definitely agree with everything that's been said in this review, these earbuds are awesome.
Hey, I bought these too. I'm no audiophile, so no technical review here, but they're a shit ton better than every cheap uncomfortable set of earbuds I've used. I'm glad I decided to give it a try.
hey orb, Shure foam tips fit on these buds? I'm a bit worried about losing the bundled tips so yeah.
And how do these compare to modded JVC marshmallows? Those are the only IEMs i have and they're really good for the price. I was gonna buy another one, but i remembered this thread.
these earbud headphones suck. i bought these to replace my shure e2cs that were wearing down. holy crap, i thought due to the review that it would be pretty decent, but there is so much white noise and drowns out the highs. i don't recommend this product to anyone, if you want to support razor, stick to their mice (i love their diamondback and kraits) but earbud phones? stick to shure and sennheiser for something a little bit more expensive but affordable.
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