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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 27 2011 20:04 GMT
#201
So... This sounds way to good to be true. Are you saying that I could play Crysis on a computer barely able to run SC2 on low?
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Xplitcit
Profile Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
August 27 2011 20:09 GMT
#202
On August 28 2011 05:04 Aocowns wrote:
So... This sounds way to good to be true. Are you saying that I could play Crysis on a computer barely able to run SC2 on low?

Yeah but you will need some crazy internet connection.
It aint easy being crazy
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 27 2011 20:12 GMT
#203
On August 28 2011 05:09 Xplitcit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:04 Aocowns wrote:
So... This sounds way to good to be true. Are you saying that I could play Crysis on a computer barely able to run SC2 on low?

Yeah but you will need some crazy internet connection.

How good?
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
August 27 2011 20:29 GMT
#204
they recommend 5 + mbit for optimal results
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Xplitcit
Profile Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
August 27 2011 20:34 GMT
#205
On August 28 2011 05:12 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:09 Xplitcit wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:04 Aocowns wrote:
So... This sounds way to good to be true. Are you saying that I could play Crysis on a computer barely able to run SC2 on low?

Yeah but you will need some crazy internet connection.

How good?

Im on cable connection 15 mbs and it was DECENT, it was like playing with 30 fps.
It aint easy being crazy
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
August 27 2011 20:36 GMT
#206
On August 28 2011 05:34 Xplitcit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:12 Aocowns wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:09 Xplitcit wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:04 Aocowns wrote:
So... This sounds way to good to be true. Are you saying that I could play Crysis on a computer barely able to run SC2 on low?

Yeah but you will need some crazy internet connection.

How good?

Im on cable connection 15 mbs and it was DECENT, it was like playing with 30 fps.


How good were the visuals? 240p ish or 720p ish?
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
IMindI
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 20:41:16
August 27 2011 20:36 GMT
#207
I just tested JustCause2 on Onlive.
I have a 10Mbit down / 1Mbit up internet connection.
The only problem i could see at the moment, is that the input is somewhat delayed, you cant play fluently ( at least not where i am, someone closer to the servers might be able to )
If i moved the mouse, there was a noticeable delay, until the character actually turned.
I would say not unplayable, but too me it felt quite frustrating, because i could not react as fast as i wanted :/

the image quality seemed to adjust to your connection. i turned the mlg stream on again, and the quality got worse, but i could still see everything properly.
the quality seemed to be between 480 and 720
Chibithor
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 20:44:42
August 27 2011 20:44 GMT
#208
On August 28 2011 05:36 IMindI wrote:
I just tested JustCause2 on Onlive.
I have a 10Mbit down / 1Mbit up internet connection.
The only problem i could see at the moment, is that the input is somewhat delayed, you cant play fluently ( at least not where i am, someone closer to the servers might be able to )
If i moved the mouse, there was a noticeable delay, until the character actually turned.
I would say not unplayable, but too me it felt quite frustrating, because i could not react as fast as i wanted :/

the image quality seemed to adjust to your connection. i turned the mlg stream on again, and the quality got worse, but i could still see everything properly.
the quality seemed to be between 480 and 720

Do note that OnLive still only has the US servers up, I'd imagine the upcoming UK servers should improve performance in Europe. I tried it a few months ago, the lag was noticeable but it wasn't unplayable I guess. I'm excited to see how the UK server will affect it.
IMindI
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 20:54:50
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#209
On August 28 2011 05:44 Chibithor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:36 IMindI wrote:
I just tested JustCause2 on Onlive.
I have a 10Mbit down / 1Mbit up internet connection.
The only problem i could see at the moment, is that the input is somewhat delayed, you cant play fluently ( at least not where i am, someone closer to the servers might be able to )
If i moved the mouse, there was a noticeable delay, until the character actually turned.
I would say not unplayable, but too me it felt quite frustrating, because i could not react as fast as i wanted :/

the image quality seemed to adjust to your connection. i turned the mlg stream on again, and the quality got worse, but i could still see everything properly.
the quality seemed to be between 480 and 720

Do note that OnLive still only has the US servers up, I'd imagine the upcoming UK servers should improve performance in Europe. I tried it a few months ago, the lag was noticeable but it wasn't unplayable I guess. I'm excited to see how the UK server will affect it.


Thank you for the clarification.
Then i am actually pretty surprised that the delay wasnt even bigger.
UK servers will definately have an impact on the delay/playability, then it might be quite usefull for some games. Though i dont see people playing shooters on this on more then a casual level.
Rpgs and games less latency-dependant seem promising though.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 27 2011 20:56 GMT
#210
So, I have a shitty computer, barely able to run SC on low. If I upgrade to a 5+ mbps connection, I can play games like Skyrim on a decently good quality? When the UK servers get online of course.
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
mrafaeldie12
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil537 Posts
August 27 2011 20:58 GMT
#211
The line of games is quite pathetic IMO.
"..it all comes thumbling down thumbling down thumblin down"
Sotamursu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland612 Posts
August 27 2011 21:00 GMT
#212
Just tested it on a 200/10 connection, which is pretty much the fastest you can get in Finland in a normal house on normal cable. I tried metro 2033 and the input delay was very noticable and pretty much made the game unplayable. I can't see anyone playing realtime games with lag like that.

The stream quality wasn't really amazing either. I'm guessing it was 720p, which doesn't look that great on a big screen. Also the UI on the onlive program seems like it was designed for a console rather than a PC.

It's still a cool concept though, but they need to get more servers, if they're ever going to expect people from outside the states to play.
IMindI
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany10 Posts
August 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#213
On August 28 2011 05:56 Aocowns wrote:
So, I have a shitty computer, barely able to run SC on low. If I upgrade to a 5+ mbps connection, I can play games like Skyrim on a decently good quality? When the UK servers get online of course.

If your computer can handle the decompression of the videostream, probably yes. Right now it is possible to test the service for free, so if UK servers are up, you can test it
The question is, will they have Skyrim available.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 21:07:15
August 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#214
On August 28 2011 06:01 IMindI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:56 Aocowns wrote:
So, I have a shitty computer, barely able to run SC on low. If I upgrade to a 5+ mbps connection, I can play games like Skyrim on a decently good quality? When the UK servers get online of course.

If your computer can handle the decompression of the videostream, probably yes. Right now it is possible to test the service for free, so if UK servers are up, you can test it
The question is, will they have Skyrim available.

That just sounds way too good to be true :O
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
IMindI
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany10 Posts
August 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#215
On August 28 2011 06:04 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:01 IMindI wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:56 Aocowns wrote:
So, I have a shitty computer, barely able to run SC on low. If I upgrade to a 5+ mbps connection, I can play games like Skyrim on a decently good quality? When the UK servers get online of course.

If your computer can handle the decompression of the videostream, probably yes. Right now it is possible to test the service for free, so if UK servers are up, you can test it
The question is, will they have Skyrim available.

That just sounds way to good to be true :O

Well, you will still have some delay, even with UK servers. But, i think games like skyrim could be playable, if they have good servers / a good connection on their side.

But if you consider switching to a better connection and paying for such a service, why not buy a better computer
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 27 2011 21:13 GMT
#216
On August 28 2011 06:08 IMindI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:04 Aocowns wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:01 IMindI wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:56 Aocowns wrote:
So, I have a shitty computer, barely able to run SC on low. If I upgrade to a 5+ mbps connection, I can play games like Skyrim on a decently good quality? When the UK servers get online of course.

If your computer can handle the decompression of the videostream, probably yes. Right now it is possible to test the service for free, so if UK servers are up, you can test it
The question is, will they have Skyrim available.

That just sounds way to good to be true :O

Well, you will still have some delay, even with UK servers. But, i think games like skyrim could be playable, if they have good servers / a good connection on their side.

But if you consider switching to a better connection and paying for such a service, why not buy a better computer

Wouldnt that cost more? ;o Not long term I mean, but I don't really stay with the same game for long anyways
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
BadgerBadger8264
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 21:19:15
August 27 2011 21:15 GMT
#217
The problem with this is that in current games, all of your input is processed locally (even online), so there is zero delay in it actually responding to your input, This is really important in fast paced games (FPS/RTS/fighting games), in this system the response time will be your latency even in single player modes, which can be really annoying, especially with higher latencies. It might be the future of gaming, but our internet just isn't fast enough to make this input lag unnoticeable.

Of course that really doesn't matter for games like farmville or sims, where a delay of less than 5 seconds really doesn't matter.
IMindI
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany10 Posts
August 27 2011 21:17 GMT
#218
On August 28 2011 06:13 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:08 IMindI wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:04 Aocowns wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:01 IMindI wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:56 Aocowns wrote:
So, I have a shitty computer, barely able to run SC on low. If I upgrade to a 5+ mbps connection, I can play games like Skyrim on a decently good quality? When the UK servers get online of course.

If your computer can handle the decompression of the videostream, probably yes. Right now it is possible to test the service for free, so if UK servers are up, you can test it
The question is, will they have Skyrim available.

That just sounds way to good to be true :O

Well, you will still have some delay, even with UK servers. But, i think games like skyrim could be playable, if they have good servers / a good connection on their side.

But if you consider switching to a better connection and paying for such a service, why not buy a better computer

Wouldnt that cost more? ;o Not long term I mean, but I don't really stay with the same game for long anyways

Yeah, probably. They give you the option to rent the game for 3 or 5 days, or buy it for full price.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
August 27 2011 21:19 GMT
#219
On August 28 2011 06:15 BadgerBadger8264 wrote:
The problem with this is that in current games, all of your input is processed locally (even in online games), so there is zero delay in it actually responding to your input, This is really important in fast paced games (FPS/RTS/fighting games), in this system the response time will be your latency, which can be really annoying, especially with higher latencies. It might be the future of gaming, but our internet just isn't fast enough to make this input lag unnoticeable.


This will probably mostly become for single player games. I wouldnt mind paying 10 bucks a month to get a access to a decent amount of games (Yeah they have a spotify like deal ) instead of getting a high end computer to play Deus Ex 3, Skyrim, and so on.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Delinius
Profile Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
August 27 2011 21:27 GMT
#220
Interesting option for the people who can't afford high end rigs. I'll stay away from this.
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