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Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
January 09 2009 20:15 GMT
#101
I'll give it 3 1/2 years (when I graduate from university)!!! If it passes the test of time, then I'll get it haha. However, these reports coming in are very comforting. Hopefully this "new" OS will work out and not pull a Savior.
Soli Deo gloria.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20019 Posts
January 09 2009 22:26 GMT
#102
Windows 7 beta is up for download at microsofts site...i should have it in about 3 hours
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-09 22:39:23
January 09 2009 22:28 GMT
#103
ah finally been waiting to see get to put somethign besides linux on my lappy
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/downloads/default.aspx?pv=36:350
On January 09 2009 22:36 BottleAbuser wrote:
IzzyCraft, that's not true. Licensing isn't an issue, the issue is with getting people to buy something that doesn't have the nice familiar Windows sticker on it - many people think that Windows IS the computer.

Actually, we saw last year that the Asus Eee sold pretty well with Linux. I think it was Compaq that was selling the budget PCs with Linux as well.

Lol you wonder why people think windows is a computer i mean the way apple advertise mac osx they make you think they are completely different things not just different os.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-09 22:39:54
January 09 2009 22:39 GMT
#104
doubt post T_T Quote not= edit
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
January 09 2009 23:46 GMT
#105
Damn, the download limit exceeded? won't let me download it.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-10 00:03:07
January 09 2009 23:56 GMT
#106
Oh yeah it was pulled lol but it was pulled due to high demand porb to be re put up there later when the Microsoft servers can handle such a heavy load.You could try to torrent the beta but you wont have a key for it yes Microsoft has keys for their betas you get them though email at least for every other beta I've tried with Microsoft.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
ilovehnk
Profile Joined October 2008
475 Posts
January 10 2009 00:04 GMT
#107
where is MS link to the dl?
Hikou Shinketsushuu
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
January 10 2009 00:11 GMT
#108
They pulled it severs where about to crash microsoft isn't the type to allow that.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
ilovehnk
Profile Joined October 2008
475 Posts
January 10 2009 00:15 GMT
#109
I was checking the windows 7 main page for whole day, NEVER saw one single link to the dl, except it keeps saying check back on Jan 9th in the afternoon......
Hikou Shinketsushuu
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-10 00:16:32
January 10 2009 00:16 GMT
#110
You should see now a small edit under that announcement saying it will be back up with more servers later
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
ilovehnk
Profile Joined October 2008
475 Posts
January 10 2009 00:19 GMT
#111
I saw that messege after it got pulled, but before that I never saw anything, not even a new word on that main page. There was no way for me to find out the download link.
Hikou Shinketsushuu
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
January 10 2009 00:32 GMT
#112
I read some more about this OS. I'm really excited for it. I want to do a beta, will they have x64 beta up?
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
January 10 2009 00:41 GMT
#113
Imo it still is pretty bloated with features people wont be using but not nearly as much as vista was. People tend to have a love hate relationship with those items anyways i swear by Microsoft essentials like the resource kit tools for everything like burning .iso and i avoid torrenting software that doesn't need to be like how people steal winrar i wonder if win 7 will have a good enough default compressor.

Not sure how the beta will go i know in the tech area you can get a beta for x64 or x86 both are a livable off the tech site by Microsoft so yeah x64 beta porb will be available for download to general public.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Cobalt
Profile Joined April 2008
United States441 Posts
January 10 2009 04:48 GMT
#114
I managed to get an x64 beta key, and I'll be installing it probably sometime Sunday. I still have work to do and backups to create on this XP machine before I install 7 on it.
closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-10 09:06:32
January 10 2009 09:02 GMT
#115
On January 05 2009 16:35 IzzyCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 23:14 Mortality wrote:
I hope it's better than Vista. I have a Vista machine and it hogs roughly 740MB of ram just to operate. I remember very clearly a time when 740MB of ram was inconceivable in anything other than a super computer.

Thank god my new computer has 4GB of ram, otherwise I'd be hosed.


Yeah people want more and more but don't want to pay the price lol 4 gigs of ram is dirty cheap to get now but for people to finally make the transition of x64 os for more ram is too slow. Ofc that would be death to ff x64 IE is much faster then any x86 broswer could be.


I dont want to buy a new computer just because Microsoft updated their program with a flashy GUI that I will turn off after 10 minutes. If they earn billions of dollars and hire the best programmers, why cant they program windows in fucking assembler, so that the new OS will run 5-10 times faster? Why cant they make the new system work on old machines? It's definitely possible. It's just called optimization. Take a look at the consoles.

Why do we need a new GUI anyway? I dont want to spend the next 3 months trying to figure out where can I change some option, just because they decided to redesign all the menus?
Actually "redesigning the menus" means that all the options will be moved somewhere else, so that noone will ever find them.
All the companies I know are working with Office 2003, just because their employees do not want to move to Office XP. The latter did simply not introduce any important changes, yet all the menus and functions got redesigned - consequently noone knows how to use them. (The only important update was that Excel can have a million rows now, but most people can survive with like 1000 anyway.)

Cant they make "XP2"? An upgraded and optimized version, that would run much faster on the machines WE ALLREADY USE, + offer more SECURITY and STABILITY options + support for other new technologies (directx 10, blueray)?
To be honest I didnt even install service pack 2, because it makes my computer like 20-30% slower and all it did was an introduction of irritating popups like "this file was downloaded from the intrawebs, it can be dangerous".

In theory the computers are getting faster and faster, yet it still takes like 10 minutes to start them (with all the antiviruses, firewalls, proxy settings etc.). Why?
What did windows XP give me in comparison to 98? A bit more stability? New directx? Usb support? Is this really a big update? The only new functionalities that I recongize are the "ctrl+alt+del" manager and upgraded file sharing in networks (which still sucks balls and doesnt work).

Have you guys ever tried running windows 98 on a dual core machine? Microsoft doesnt update it, so there are many driver/compatibility issues, but the comp runs FAST AS HELL.

The testers never benchmark computers in real environment. Run all the company crap (AV, FW, outlook, excel, powerpoint, perhaps some communicator) and your computer will still run slow. Despite your new Vista and 4gb of ram.
It's just like the browsers. They use acid3 test to benchmark them. I dont give a fuck about acid3. Teamliquid is very simple and does not use any acid3 crap, yet it takes like 2 seconds to load it on my company computer despite its dual core. It took the same amount of time on my windows 98 comp! Not to mention that in real work environment all the browsers crash for me regularly. Open 50 tabs (including 10pdf files) in firefox, chrome or IE and all of them will crash at least once time per day.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
January 10 2009 09:07 GMT
#116
If the world was as simple as you just put it, Microsoft would have found those solutions before you could type that whole thing out.
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-10 09:09:41
January 10 2009 09:08 GMT
#117
On January 09 2009 21:37 Beamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2009 18:45 Centric wrote:
I hate all things Mac. In this terrible economy they are robbing people.


And Microsoft isn't ?! Selling Windows on every sold computer ?
Ever seen how hard it is to buy a computer (espacially a laptop) without Windows on it ?

You seriously think that the cost of an OS is equal to the extra money that Apple charges on upgrades? Just looking at the retail for desktop replacement laptops, for equal specs, you're paying an extra $2000 dollars. An OS costs what...$100 max?
Super serious.
closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-10 09:17:16
January 10 2009 09:12 GMT
#118
On January 10 2009 18:07 Klogon wrote:
If the world was as simple as you just put it, Microsoft would have found those solutions before you could type that whole thing out.


They know about the problems but do not want to solve them. M$ is signing deals with computer manufacturers in order to "provide better hardware support" (basically they bribe M$ not to optimize Windows so that new, faster computers are required).

Just like MS never cared about the fact that 99% of people will hate the DRM in Vista. Dont you remember all the uproar? Noone wanted it, yet they included it, just because the media companies pushed it.

Windows 98 runs fast like hell on modern machines. Linux distributions like puppylinux can be run on old computers, yet offer the same functionalities as modern OSes (apart the GUI). Why is Windows so slow? Due to all the bloatware and lack of optimization.
shimmy
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Poland997 Posts
January 10 2009 09:20 GMT
#119
On January 04 2009 12:56 Dalroti wrote:
Being a Mac fan


Stopped reading here.
Hell hath no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-10 11:14:01
January 10 2009 10:32 GMT
#120
On January 10 2009 18:02 closed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 16:35 IzzyCraft wrote:
On January 04 2009 23:14 Mortality wrote:
I hope it's better than Vista. I have a Vista machine and it hogs roughly 740MB of ram just to operate. I remember very clearly a time when 740MB of ram was inconceivable in anything other than a super computer.

Thank god my new computer has 4GB of ram, otherwise I'd be hosed.


Yeah people want more and more but don't want to pay the price lol 4 gigs of ram is dirty cheap to get now but for people to finally make the transition of x64 os for more ram is too slow. Ofc that would be death to ff x64 IE is much faster then any x86 broswer could be.


I dont want to buy a new computer just because Microsoft updated their program with a flashy GUI that I will turn off after 10 minutes. If they earn billions of dollars and hire the best programmers, why cant they program windows in fucking assembler, so that the new OS will run 5-10 times faster? Why cant they make the new system work on old machines? It's definitely possible. It's just called optimization. Take a look at the consoles.

Why do we need a new GUI anyway? I dont want to spend the next 3 months trying to figure out where can I change some option, just because they decided to redesign all the menus?
Actually "redesigning the menus" means that all the options will be moved somewhere else, so that noone will ever find them.
All the companies I know are working with Office 2003, just because their employees do not want to move to Office XP. The latter did simply not introduce any important changes, yet all the menus and functions got redesigned - consequently noone knows how to use them. (The only important update was that Excel can have a million rows now, but most people can survive with like 1000 anyway.)

Cant they make "XP2"? An upgraded and optimized version, that would run much faster on the machines WE ALLREADY USE, + offer more SECURITY and STABILITY options + support for other new technologies (directx 10, blueray)?
To be honest I didnt even install service pack 2, because it makes my computer like 20-30% slower and all it did was an introduction of irritating popups like "this file was downloaded from the intrawebs, it can be dangerous".

In theory the computers are getting faster and faster, yet it still takes like 10 minutes to start them (with all the antiviruses, firewalls, proxy settings etc.). Why?
What did windows XP give me in comparison to 98? A bit more stability? New directx? Usb support? Is this really a big update? The only new functionalities that I recongize are the "ctrl+alt+del" manager and upgraded file sharing in networks (which still sucks balls and doesnt work).

Have you guys ever tried running windows 98 on a dual core machine? Microsoft doesnt update it, so there are many driver/compatibility issues, but the comp runs FAST AS HELL.

The testers never benchmark computers in real environment. Run all the company crap (AV, FW, outlook, excel, powerpoint, perhaps some communicator) and your computer will still run slow. Despite your new Vista and 4gb of ram.
It's just like the browsers. They use acid3 test to benchmark them. I dont give a fuck about acid3. Teamliquid is very simple and does not use any acid3 crap, yet it takes like 2 seconds to load it on my company computer despite its dual core. It took the same amount of time on my windows 98 comp! Not to mention that in real work environment all the browsers crash for me regularly. Open 50 tabs (including 10pdf files) in firefox, chrome or IE and all of them will crash at least once time per day.

Why even have a GUI, you can use the command line prompt. Why have NTFS, FAT32 is faster right? There are tradeoffs and benefits , most of them are not easily visible to the end user (consumer).

Have fun with win98.
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