EPTWindows 7 - Make it or Break it for Microsoft - Page 5
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IzzyCraft
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mahnini
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http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx Windows 7 Over the past few years, you've asked us to make some changes to Windows. We listened closely. Now it's time to share an early look at how we've used your feedback. Windows 7 is faster, more reliable, and makes it easier to do what you want. Both the everyday things and the killer "is that really possible?" things. Dig into this site to see what's coming. Want to try the Beta? Come back the afternoon of January 9. And remember—this is just a preview. There's more to come. | ||
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Centric
United States1989 Posts
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funkie
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On January 09 2009 18:45 Centric wrote: I hate all things Mac. In this terrible economy they are robbing people. They don't rob you if you buy the stock but any upgrade and it is just robbery T_T 300 dollars for just 1 more hard drive its only 500gb wtfffff | ||
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Beamo
France1279 Posts
On January 09 2009 18:45 Centric wrote: I hate all things Mac. In this terrible economy they are robbing people. And Microsoft isn't ?! Selling Windows on every sold computer ? Ever seen how hard it is to buy a computer (espacially a laptop) without Windows on it ? | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17341 Posts
On January 09 2009 21:37 Beamo wrote: And Microsoft isn't ?! Selling Windows on every sold computer ? Ever seen how hard it is to buy a computer (espacially a laptop) without Windows on it ? You can buy one with Linux on it (not all the models though) and the price difference is like 25-30%... And you have to take into account that in most cases when you buy a comp with pre-installed Windows you want to re-install it anyway to fit your needs better. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On January 09 2009 21:37 Beamo wrote: And Microsoft isn't ?! Selling Windows on every sold computer ? Ever seen how hard it is to buy a computer (espacially a laptop) without Windows on it ? Well Mac only is sold by apple they don't allow license outside of them =p also mac isn't compatible with alot of hard wear well the current macs. What you wanna buy one with Linux on it install it yourself all Linux are free its why they aren't put on computers very often hard licenseing issue | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On January 09 2009 21:37 Beamo wrote: And Microsoft isn't ?! Selling Windows on every sold computer ? Ever seen how hard it is to buy a computer (espacially a laptop) without Windows on it ? well you can make your own pc you cant make your own mac | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Actually, we saw last year that the Asus Eee sold pretty well with Linux. I think it was Compaq that was selling the budget PCs with Linux as well. | ||
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Beamo
France1279 Posts
Can't make your own Mac but I think they are willing to refund the MacOSX licence if you send it back wich is not true with all Microsoft vendors. What should be done is : Selling the computer with whatever software installed (for people who don't want to install anything and just want a ready to go computer) but not activated. The software licenses of these products should be mentioned in the price (that is the law at least in France even if it is not respected) and if you decide you do not want these software they just don't give you the activation codes, they take them out of the price and you take them out of the system. I currently have Mac hardware with a Linux installed :o | ||
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dNo_O
United States233 Posts
...you can make your own laptop if you know enough about hardware. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On January 09 2009 21:37 Beamo wrote: And Microsoft isn't ?! Selling Windows on every sold computer ? Ever seen how hard it is to buy a computer (espacially a laptop) without Windows on it ? completely irrelevant. apple is considered even more offensive in its marketing tactics because how blatantly it perpetrates ignorance. ignorance of the mac premium, and why exactly this premium is charged. it is not because of superior worksmanship and such, it is because of apple's effort of creating a distinct market of "macs" against pc, when they are the same. apple wants to frame the choice of buying a mac as not merely "choosing a computer" but buying something distinctly different from pc. other apple gimmicks are designed to minimize competitive exposure to the pc market. apple minimizes the concept of specs and supports usability out of a rotisserie oven infomercial; they do not mention price comparisons, otherwise people will deviate from the desired track of thought and see macs as just computers. yes, macs look pretty and stylish, and that matters, but that alone does not explain the premium apple charges, nor does it explain the herds of money rolling their way. look at the router market, does the aesthetic superiority of a particular mac-ish router explain its pricing premium, if any exists? apple's design is a part of their strategy of constructing a distinct market for their own products, it is manufactured brand fetish. this strategy relies in part on ignorance of the users, and even informed mac users tend to justify macs against pcs, rather than complaining about mac's pricing. the mac premium is just hateful, why do mac users put up with it? because apple is their company in the struggle to justify their commodity purchase against "microsoft pc." you can still buy macs without buying into their marketing philosophy, and that's fine. if i were rich enough i'd consider it, but goddamn their marketing is hateful. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20026 Posts
On January 09 2009 23:24 Beamo wrote: PobTheCad: You can't make your own laptop and not many are offered with Linux (I don't mind installing it I just mind paying the Windows license I wont use) I ordered my laptop custom and had choice of OS and could have gone with linux ~.~ Went with XP | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12237 Posts
On January 06 2009 11:04 Mohdoo wrote: I browsed through the other pages, and it doesn't seem like this was posted yet: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3236 In the RECENT tests done, Windows 7 is not just more snappy and quick than Vista (duh), but it is also faster than XP in almost every single test. Windows 7 is turning into what Vista should have been. Everything will be pretty and awesome while still running like a champ. Also keep in mind that this is a *BETA* build which is outperforming XP. The final code will of course be better. As for how much better, who can say. But as it stands, an unfinished Windows 7 is still faster than XP. I got a chance to check out Win7 on my coworker's new netbook, and it really did impress me. I'm in the same boat as a lot of other guys around here -- wary of a new OS upgrade due to compatibility problems or lack of optimization. I ran Win2k until about 5 months ago, when I finally upgraded to XP SP2. I swore never to get Vista. But after seeing Win7, I'm very tempted to buy it on release day. It really is that good. The UI is so customizable that you really can't go wrong. It does have some annoying features by default, such as the return of the UAC, but even the UAC can be customized to only send reports/confirmation requests on one of four security infraction levels (much better than the simple On/Off that I heard Vista used). I know there are a lot of anti-MS bandwagoners on this site, but really you guys don't know what you're talking about when it comes to Win7. I'm pretty confident that once it's fully optimized and out the door that you'll all be eating your words. Projected release date is October 2009. EDIT: So not only is Win7 already faster than XP/Vista, it uses less memory (though it does use more HD space). While XP will use ~500MB/1GB of RAM just for the OS, and Vista allegedly uses 1-2GB, Win7 was using only 200-300MB, which is incredibly efficient considering it has all of the previous versions' features rolled in. | ||
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Beamo
France1279 Posts
I have Pidgin (MSN like), Firefox, a screenlet, a ftpserver and a stylish dock launched and I'm at less then 450Mo RAM used... | ||
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