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jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
January 04 2009 05:08 GMT
#21
Even is Windows 7 doesn't make it.

I am perfectly fine with XP...
strongwind
Profile Joined July 2007
United States862 Posts
January 04 2009 05:13 GMT
#22
ive been using vista on my new comp now for a couple months. I was really skeptical at the start, but it turns out that it works fine. Haven't had any problems with it, and I'm sure newer updates will help it run smoother.

I'm sure windows 7 will take some time to become mainstream (and for the price to go down), so I'm happy with my choice. If 7 does bring cool innovations to the table I might consider switching though
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 05:22:56
January 04 2009 05:17 GMT
#23
On January 04 2009 13:20 I_are_n00b wrote:
Windows is still the platform. Operating System theory isn't based on UI and all that stuff Microsoft is "copying" from Macs, it's about resource management. FreeBSD was a good switch for the Mac OS, but seriously? Apple is way behind in terms of the workings behind the UI. Just look at the DirectX API and how it's now the graphics platform for all games and 3D (along with the majority of hardware support). Honestly? Most companies just don't want to make software or hardware for Macs, mainly due to Apple having tight controls on its hardware and software.

Having to have firewall and Norton, well that's unfair. If Mac becomes 50% of the market share, then we'll see who's more secure, until then, nobody's going to waste their time making a virus or malware that only affects such a small portion of the population.

This.

On January 04 2009 13:35 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +

Also, basically every Linux environment will try to combine all it's OSes to one OS under the Linux kernal. This will happen because all the Linux businesses would want better compatibility with the world. And this would be alot easier if the Linux OSes combines themselves, but still made the OS free under the GNU liscence.


linux is a chimera with far too many heads to combine into one distribution. And it doesnt really have to happen. If one distrib gets pushed to the front because of capabilities, support or UI (suse, mandriva, etc.) then thats ok. The walmarts and other stores already have distributions picked out.

The fact that you can buy a computer with either no OS already installed, or buy a cheap PC with Linux already preinstalled is a big thing for linux, but this still isnt the year of linux on the desktop

And this. Open source development will have its day, but its not now, and it won't be for a while.

On January 04 2009 13:24 Dalroti wrote:
did anyone read my "obesity" remark about Microsoft? I think this will eventually happen you know. They need to cut some product lines or do something. And yes, i hope Apple comes atleast close to what Microsoft is.

Is this a quip about Microsoft/Apple as companies, or Windows/Macintosh as operating systems? They're two different things, and talking about Microsoft's "obesity" is a statement about the former. As an end user, there's no reason you should care about how Microsoft operates, is business, so long as it operates fairly. Honestly, who's going to think less of Windows because Microsoft as a company is too big? It's irrelevant.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 05:20:53
January 04 2009 05:20 GMT
#24
better gui design is hardly a "mac style," just common sense. macs are just noob, seriously.
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Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
January 04 2009 05:31 GMT
#25
Well you can never trust what you read nowadays. We should all know that. But if it goes under I am fine with XP. If it succeeds that is even better news, but until then we will wait and find out.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
January 04 2009 05:43 GMT
#26
The problem is that the average mom and dad and business users don't really care about the fancy 3d Aero or this and that on their desktop.

What they want is a minimalistic system that will do everything and anything that they expect they can do with their computer. Windows OSes sort of satisfied that but M$ problem is that they need to some how generate revenues in a world of unsympathetic customers.

IMO we don't need to improve the desktop GUI or anything else, rather give the dumb users something that they can manage with out a steep learning curve and give the power users something else.

Too bad we live in an age that people have to upgrade even tho they don't need to. Vista is actually a good OS but problem is that no one want to learn how to use it.

I can see that Linux becoming big simply because your average user is getting smarter and smarter and willing to learn extra things. But then again, they exists a significant majority of users that don't really care about what they use as long they get what ever job they do on a computer done.
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laikomg
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada50 Posts
January 04 2009 06:02 GMT
#27
Windows 7 is really Vista incarnate, but because it is Microsoft's reattempt, they're surely set on not committing the same mistakes as they did with Vista. Windows 7 should be inherently better because Microsoft listened to the community following Vista's release to see what types of things they would like changed. I believe Windows 7 will be success for this reason.

Gamers will always be native to Windows. You aren't ever going to play a decent game on a Mac or Penguin.

Microsoft can only improve on performance for W7. They know people hated the performance loss of Vista so I'm sure code optimization has been a primary focus of designing W7.

I rather liked the GUI for Vista, but I'm sure there can be some useful improvements (and removal of dumb features like Windows Flip) to make computer use easier . I only wish Microsoft would support the custom GUI community more, since Aero got stale after seeing it on every other computer passing through my workplace. Maybe making the design of themes accessible and compatible with all versions of the OS would help.

The only thing I think W7 will have problems with is software compatibility. This has always been a problem for new OS's however, and is usually fixed with time. Consumers should not be deterred. However, professional software for engineering or 3D will be left another generation behind. It's time Microsoft pays attention to the fact that huge companies are still on XP because their necessary software doesn't run on Vista.
laikomg
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada50 Posts
January 04 2009 06:03 GMT
#28
On January 04 2009 14:43 haduken wrote:
IMO we don't need to improve the desktop GUI or anything else, rather give the dumb users something that they can manage with out a steep learning curve and give the power users something else.


AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
twincannon
Profile Joined December 2008
United States31 Posts
January 04 2009 06:08 GMT
#29
So far all I've heard from my friends, a mix of XP loyalists and "vista tolerant", that 7 is pretty damn good. A bit of a shame, I was rather hoping for another blunder and the slim hope of linux going mainstream heh.


On January 04 2009 12:56 Dalroti wrote:
This is self explanatory. More negative feedback for Microsoft means more things Apple can use as basis for their advertisements. More advertisements means more sales for Apple (face it, who doesn't think the PC guy is awesome? He probably uses a Mac). more sales means more confidence for Apple. You can create the rest of the chain.


Apple's ads are unbelievably stupid. Some of their more recent ones I can't even tell what they're trying to say (the holiday claymation crap), and some of them even seem to proclaim the "PC" character as the hero. I guess whatever they're doing works well on the unwashed masses but I've happily never owned an apple product in my life, including mp3 players (iriver wins... another thing SK does better!).
b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 06:15:20
January 04 2009 06:13 GMT
#30
On January 04 2009 13:13 Vharox wrote:
I really have absolutely no problems with vista.


My updates won't work....so I'm stuck with Vista bleeping 64 UPDATES YOU SHOULD INSTALL every time i get on because whenever i try it never works. But i get used to it. I don't have any serious problems with VIsta though.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
January 04 2009 06:13 GMT
#31
Any word on a full release date?
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 06:22:47
January 04 2009 06:14 GMT
#32
forget i said anything too muhc speculation
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 04 2009 06:26 GMT
#33
On January 04 2009 15:13 b3h47pte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 13:13 Vharox wrote:
I really have absolutely no problems with vista.


My updates won't work....so I'm stuck with Vista bleeping 64 UPDATES YOU SHOULD INSTALL every time i get on because whenever i try it never works. But i get used to it. I don't have any serious problems with VIsta though.


404 user error?

I heard they are trying to have the release date set to late 2009 early 2010
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Whyzguy
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada263 Posts
January 04 2009 06:32 GMT
#34
I wish I knew more about Windows 7.

I do know that Vista is getting so much hate and i guess this is why Windows 7 is so crucial. I'm running on XP 32bit atm and I'm pretty happy (except for the fact that it can't read my 4gb RAM, it only reads 3gb... gg).
"He who throws dirt, is losing ground." - Fortune Cookie [May 2011]
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
January 04 2009 06:36 GMT
#35
I wish Microsoft would put XP back in the market. =[

My new awesome computer comes with vista and that makes me a little sad. But atleast its premium so i get all that aero crap with the sexy themes
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OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
January 04 2009 06:42 GMT
#36
putting XP back in the market would help them a bit wouldn't it?

I mean since Vista is so infamous and Windows 7 is just they're lame excuse of a remake for vista... >.>

I remember reading somewhere that Vista is no longer getting updates/fixes because of Windows 7

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Whyzguy
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada263 Posts
January 04 2009 06:59 GMT
#37
Isn't 7 a rewrite? Like written from scratch?
"He who throws dirt, is losing ground." - Fortune Cookie [May 2011]
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
January 04 2009 07:03 GMT
#38
windows 7 isnt really that monumental, but it defenetly runs better than VIsta.
like on my old laptop, it ran smooth whereas vista just wasnt worth it
but as soon as drivers and things update things should be ok, which is the reason why m$ is working to get it out to the devs to work on.
is Dx11 suposed to come out with W7 as well? i don remember
I feel like pwning noobs
PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
January 04 2009 07:56 GMT
#39
apple makes very expensive equipment
they will be hit alot harder in the recession than PCs you can make yourself for 1/4 the price
windows will be fine
Once again back is the incredible!
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
January 04 2009 11:53 GMT
#40
I've had some small problems with Vista. But I would never consider going back to XP. And I would never consider paying 2x the money to get a Mac.
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