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On January 05 2009 05:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Until Mac can gain some traction in the gaming communities nothing will change me thinks.
Macs have gained much traction in the media community though (graphics, music, etc)
And programs like Codeweavers, Wine, and Cedega will eventually make everything compatible. I had SC:BW (w.o. ICCUP/Chaos) running perfectly on my Linux.
Winblows just utterly failed with Vista. My fresh-out of the factory Lenovo froze every 10 minutes before I dual-booted Linux and XP (for ICCUP/Chaos lol). If Microsoft keeps on failing, I'm sure one of the major game companies will start looking into making games compatible for other OS's and then it'll snowball from there.
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You guys should watch the interview with Bill Gates that recently aired on PBS, it was fantastic. It really shows why he is so smart. He isn't worried at all about the "demise of microsoft" like so many of you are crying about. The guy is smart, and from what he said in the interview, it sounds like 7 should be solid as hell. Basically Vista that runs way more efficient and is cleaned up a ton.
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On January 05 2009 16:49 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2009 05:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Until Mac can gain some traction in the gaming communities nothing will change me thinks. Macs have gained much traction in the media community though (graphics, music, etc) And programs like Codeweavers, Wine, and Cedega will eventually make everything compatible. I had SC:BW (w.o. ICCUP/Chaos) running perfectly on my Linux. Winblows just utterly failed with Vista. My fresh-out of the factory Lenovo froze every 10 minutes before I dual-booted Linux and XP (for ICCUP/Chaos lol). If Microsoft keeps on failing, I'm sure one of the major game companies will start looking into making games compatible for other OS's and then it'll snowball from there.
OEM manufacturer's are a large part of the problem. Someone buys a laptop, which probably is not very good specs to begin with and that is also pre-loaded with tons and tons and tons of bloatware, trialcrap, and unnecessary lenovo programs.
Then said pissed off person does a fresh re-install of some other OS and surprise! the system runs much better. Do you really think other Vista users have computer freezes every 10 minutes? Or even once a week?
You changed more than one variable in a problem and then called it good. That is pretty sloppy logic.
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On January 06 2009 03:16 maleorderbride wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2009 16:49 redtooth wrote:On January 05 2009 05:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Until Mac can gain some traction in the gaming communities nothing will change me thinks. Macs have gained much traction in the media community though (graphics, music, etc) And programs like Codeweavers, Wine, and Cedega will eventually make everything compatible. I had SC:BW (w.o. ICCUP/Chaos) running perfectly on my Linux. Winblows just utterly failed with Vista. My fresh-out of the factory Lenovo froze every 10 minutes before I dual-booted Linux and XP (for ICCUP/Chaos lol). If Microsoft keeps on failing, I'm sure one of the major game companies will start looking into making games compatible for other OS's and then it'll snowball from there. OEM manufacturer's are a large part of the problem. Someone buys a laptop, which probably is not very good specs to begin with and that is also pre-loaded with tons and tons and tons of bloatware, trialcrap, and unnecessary lenovo programs. Then said pissed off person does a fresh re-install of some other OS and surprise! the system runs much better. Do you really think other Vista users have computer freezes every 10 minutes? Or even once a week? You changed more than one variable in a problem and then called it good. That is pretty sloppy logic.
I know that is what I am thinking. I see my friend's computers with Vista and it works perfectly fine (except one where his stuff lags alot, and he gets viruses cuz hes a bad boy xD).
But what I am trying to say in the ad is that really I think Apple is going to use this window of opportunity to increase their sales. They even said in their release of the brand new notebooks (which I must say are very nice from what I have heard) that Vista is one big reason why they think they are doing so well lately. Because Vista is getting all of this bad rep.
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On January 06 2009 06:51 Dalroti wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2009 03:16 maleorderbride wrote:On January 05 2009 16:49 redtooth wrote:On January 05 2009 05:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Until Mac can gain some traction in the gaming communities nothing will change me thinks. Macs have gained much traction in the media community though (graphics, music, etc) And programs like Codeweavers, Wine, and Cedega will eventually make everything compatible. I had SC:BW (w.o. ICCUP/Chaos) running perfectly on my Linux. Winblows just utterly failed with Vista. My fresh-out of the factory Lenovo froze every 10 minutes before I dual-booted Linux and XP (for ICCUP/Chaos lol). If Microsoft keeps on failing, I'm sure one of the major game companies will start looking into making games compatible for other OS's and then it'll snowball from there. OEM manufacturer's are a large part of the problem. Someone buys a laptop, which probably is not very good specs to begin with and that is also pre-loaded with tons and tons and tons of bloatware, trialcrap, and unnecessary lenovo programs. Then said pissed off person does a fresh re-install of some other OS and surprise! the system runs much better. Do you really think other Vista users have computer freezes every 10 minutes? Or even once a week? You changed more than one variable in a problem and then called it good. That is pretty sloppy logic. I know that is what I am thinking. I see my friend's computers with Vista and it works perfectly fine (except one where his stuff lags alot, and he gets viruses cuz hes a bad boy xD). But what I am trying to say in the ad is that really I think Apple is going to use this window of opportunity to increase their sales. They even said in their release of the brand new notebooks (which I must say are very nice from what I have heard) that Vista is one big reason why they think they are doing so well lately. Because Vista is getting all of this bad rep.
Apple have always made nice laptops, they just have a shitty OS.
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MURICA15980 Posts
On January 05 2009 05:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Until Mac can gain some traction in the gaming communities nothing will change me thinks.
Nah, more like professional communities.
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xp is the best still 
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macs are like the girl you have a one night stand with
windows is the wife.
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On January 06 2009 07:17 Zalfor wrote:
macs are like the girl you have a one night stand with
windows is the wife.
Fun vs Accomplishment O.O?
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I wish Mac would actually advertise how good their OS is instead of bashing Windows. Its hard to have confidence in a company if they have to ridicule competitors to gain an edge
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United States3824 Posts
Microsoft can't really lose very much market share because Apple computers still cost as much as they did before the vista release. People are eventually going to realize that they just don't have they money for them, though they seem to be convincing themselves of that as of late.
Oh yeah and Linux? Not going to happen.
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I browsed through the other pages, and it doesn't seem like this was posted yet:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3236
In the RECENT tests done, Windows 7 is not just more snappy and quick than Vista (duh), but it is also faster than XP in almost every single test. Windows 7 is turning into what Vista should have been. Everything will be pretty and awesome while still running like a champ. Also keep in mind that this is a *BETA* build which is outperforming XP. The final code will of course be better. As for how much better, who can say. But as it stands, an unfinished Windows 7 is still faster than XP.
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On January 06 2009 11:04 Mohdoo wrote:I browsed through the other pages, and it doesn't seem like this was posted yet: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3236In the RECENT tests done, Windows 7 is not just more snappy and quick than Vista (duh), but it is also faster than XP in almost every single test. Windows 7 is turning into what Vista should have been. Everything will be pretty and awesome while still running like a champ. Also keep in mind that this is a *BETA* build which is outperforming XP. The final code will of course be better. As for how much better, who can say. But as it stands, an unfinished Windows 7 is still faster than XP.
Lol so what microsoft isn't lieing when they said Windows 7 is what Vista should have been =p Lol those tests also show quad core just runs better on vista then XP.
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On January 06 2009 11:07 IzzyCraft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2009 11:04 Mohdoo wrote:I browsed through the other pages, and it doesn't seem like this was posted yet: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3236In the RECENT tests done, Windows 7 is not just more snappy and quick than Vista (duh), but it is also faster than XP in almost every single test. Windows 7 is turning into what Vista should have been. Everything will be pretty and awesome while still running like a champ. Also keep in mind that this is a *BETA* build which is outperforming XP. The final code will of course be better. As for how much better, who can say. But as it stands, an unfinished Windows 7 is still faster than XP. Lol so what microsoft isn't lieing when they said Windows 7 is what Vista should have been =p Lol those tests also show quad core just runs better on vista then XP.
I don't quite understand this post. Grammar and proper vocab use would be helpful.
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On January 06 2009 11:19 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2009 11:07 IzzyCraft wrote:On January 06 2009 11:04 Mohdoo wrote:I browsed through the other pages, and it doesn't seem like this was posted yet: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3236In the RECENT tests done, Windows 7 is not just more snappy and quick than Vista (duh), but it is also faster than XP in almost every single test. Windows 7 is turning into what Vista should have been. Everything will be pretty and awesome while still running like a champ. Also keep in mind that this is a *BETA* build which is outperforming XP. The final code will of course be better. As for how much better, who can say. But as it stands, an unfinished Windows 7 is still faster than XP. Lol. So Microsoft was not lying when they said that Windows 7 is aimed to be what Vista should have been. =p Edit: Lol. Those tests also show that Quad-core processors just run better on Vista then on a XP system. I don't quite understand this post. Grammar and proper vocab use would be helpful.
Happy?
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I've used vista for exactly one year now, and so far I've had exactly zero problems. In fact I just reinstalled because it was getting a little sluggish, but that was my choice because I had so much crap installed. I have dicked with it quite a bit, and the only trouble I had was when I disabled the themes service and couldn't figure out why aero would not start. Again, my mistake, vista was only helpful in getting me to fix it. I don't see why people have a problem with it. It runs just as speedy if not moreso than XP, and there are a lot of little things that make it a lot easier to use. (The searchable start menu comes to mind)
I won't be upgrading to windows 7 when it comes out, primarily because I have no problems where I'm at.
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Well Vista is a good os now, key word is now. But it was buggy when released and now there is a huge Vista stigma that it's the most fucking horrible os in the world and everyone seems to believe it.
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Apple will never have dominant market share, at least not as long as there are no disruptive technologies.
The network effect is too large. Everybody uses Windows.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
there is really not that much of a vista stigma, except occasional complaints about minor issues. not many people frequent popular tech forums where they hear this kind of stuff, and for most people, if the os is somewhat stable, they wont have complaints. it came with the computer after all.
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Don't count Linux out yet. Vast majority of computer users only use computer to web browse, listen to their music and do basic office tasks.
Linux is capable of performing these tasks.
For your average mom and dad, having MS Office and Open office will not be that different.
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