EPTEpic Riot In Greece - Page 4
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KwarK
United States44374 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
On December 17 2008 14:47 IzzyCraft wrote: I never understood rioting. Seems more popular in Europe though. uncivilized imo | ||
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CommanderFluffy
Taiwan1059 Posts
Mob mentality is a scary fucking thing. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
On December 17 2008 15:39 dinmsab wrote: Sure some police forces may be corrupt.. but atleast they dont destroy public property or burn peoples cars. Rioters are just much much worse in many ways than corrupt cops. how about kidnapping, murderer, being partners with the drug trafic and there were endless cases where officers did tons of work just so they could close theyr cases and not work moving bodies, destroying evidence, all so they dont have to work and can keep theyr framing and drug schemes. If you really think they dont destroy public property, you havent thought about all the trust that is broken, and if you can trust a police what can you trust ? normally a corrupt police is tied to corrupt politicias, so if you dont step up they will just fist fuck you to the last penny. | ||
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Sakoulaki
Greece54 Posts
I think the cumulative decay of the Greek state lead to the people protesting. Bear in mind that arguing if the protests were done in a rightful manner or not, is a different argument and should be treated like this. In fact, I believe it is a really complex matter that needs a thorough analysis which unfortunately i cannot do now.. Unfortunately, things in Greece seem to be back to normal now.. | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
There have been exceptionally good and bad people from all countries, and every government has committed both benevolent and heinous acts. This is because countries and governments comprise many different people, some of whom have noble intentions, some ignoble, and most in between. | ||
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lololol
5198 Posts
On December 17 2008 15:14 dronebabo wrote: and the american insult has been initiated on page two I blame leniency. | ||
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kefkalives
Australia1272 Posts
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On December 17 2008 16:42 Sakoulaki wrote: An analysis from a Greek blog on the causes of the riots: http://g700.blogspot.com/2008/12/riots-in-greece-young-generation-under.html . I think the cumulative decay of the Greek state lead to the people protesting. Bear in mind that arguing if the protests were done in a rightful manner or not, is a different argument and should be treated like this. In fact, I believe it is a really complex matter that needs a thorough analysis which unfortunately i cannot do now.. Unfortunately, things in Greece seem to be back to normal now.. thanks, ur last sentence too, told me more about current Greek sentiment than the whole blog article (that blog too has a few great replies - thanks again) | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
In modern day Greeace, cocktails molotov YOU! | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On December 17 2008 14:41 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Folca, are you retarded? I feel as though I should elaborate. You are retarded. Democracy was founded in Greece, it was a less spread form however. It was in Athens where they had sort of a senate who decided things that happened, upper class people decided things instead of a king (I am not going to go into an entire history lesson, this is my brief summary) Even today, they have a Democratic country, with an official elected by there parliament for a 5 year term. If you want to think that's not democratic because parliament elects him, then neither is America. Since popular vote doesn't actually elect people, its the electoral one. I'm not gonna read through this topic to see if someone else called you on this BS already. Suffice to say democracy in ancient Greece is for a very select few, where it's rigidly caste-based society that's far from the variety we have today. We're talking starcraft circa 2000 vs 2008 here, can't even be compared, totally different ballgame. Besides, calling the trigger of this riot "stupid" is like calling tl a simple "fanpage." Obviously people there have been in the rioting mood for some years now, the shooting just set it off. | ||
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stet_tcl
Greece319 Posts
What we don't see is the thousands of people of all ages that protested peacefully during the last week. It wasn't all chaos and mayhem these days and except for the anarchists -the only thing we saw in the news- its was pretty cool that people got out on the streets. Obviously a cop killing some kid was just what set things in motion, the real reason for this in my opinion was a general feeling of distress and disappointment caused by an incompetent government. On December 17 2008 14:27 Raithed wrote: whats greece? i thought they were at a democracy stage, capitalism? idk. It's exactly when you have democracy that it's people's right (and sometimes obligation) to protest.. If it wasn't for some form of protesting and rioting throughout history, people may never have gained fundamental rights. When a government is not dedicated to the well being of its citizens (and i doubt there's many of them around) and has economic motives and lobbies to please instead people HAVE to protest for what they believe is right. Just my opinion tho, hf /Lurker mode back on | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12816 Posts
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Telemako
Spain1637 Posts
PS: Don't take my post literally in numbers, you know what I mean. | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On December 17 2008 16:38 D10 wrote: there were endless cases where officers did tons of work just so they could ... not work wat | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
On December 17 2008 17:34 stet_tcl wrote: It's exactly when you have democracy that it's people's right (and sometimes obligation) to protest.. If it wasn't for some form of protesting and rioting throughout history, people may never have gained fundamental rights. When a government is not dedicated to the well being of its citizens (and i doubt there's many of them around) and has economic motives and lobbies to please instead people HAVE to protest for what they believe is right. Just my opinion tho, hf /Lurker mode back on Keep in mind, the majority of people on this website believe that the populace at large should be forcefully impotent, entrusting all power to governmental institutions, based on a vague distrust of their fellow community members. | ||
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betaben
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stet_tcl
Greece319 Posts
On December 17 2008 18:00 HeadBangaa wrote: Keep in mind, the majority of people on this website believe that the populace at large should be forcefully impotent, entrusting all power to governmental institutions, based on a vague distrust of their fellow community members. Man don't you know how to use spoilers??  Sometimes there are some things you'd rather just suspect... EDIT: On December 17 2008 18:01 betaben wrote: you've got to admit, there's some good pictures Whats up with the lasers and stuff? I dint know riot police was so high tech.. Protesters only use their fingers and go pew pew. Clearly imba... | ||
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hugitout
United States379 Posts
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