On December 17 2008 17:53 Telemako wrote: I'm pretty sure people started going out to the streets to get heard, not to burn everything around, but there's always a bunch of jackasses that get more weight than they have. 100 burn cars and 10000 claim on the streets, what do you talk about? the 100 firestarters. What happens next? The 9000 go home and the firestarters get the attention they wanted until the police stops them.
PS: Don't take my post literally in numbers, you know what I mean.
dude i'm sure math wasnt your strongest subject back in school
Dunno why everyone is saying riots are stupid ... I mean throughout history people have been rioting for things they want to see changed (be it corrupt governments, corrupt police, whatever, ... ) Democracy means power to the people and if the politicians (who are elected by the people) don't do their job or whatever( ) it's the duty of the people to go against this.
(Don't call me crazy or something, just saying...)
And ofcourse there's a chance you'll have some assholes amongst the crowd that burn cars and such...
Just felt like posting in this topic, seeing as this is something that interests me.
I have very little tolerance for the police: I realize their job isn't easy, but the amount of stories of corrupt police men just overwhelms me. Rodney King is one example and there are tons more. Luckily I live in Denmark where we have one of the best police forces in the world, bar a few mistakes. This has a lot to do with the low crime rate I think.
I don't know about protesters. 2 years ago the danish government sold a house - it was theirs - in Copenhagen occupied by the anarchist group in Denmark, which spawned huge riots. I didn't particularly like the protests, in which 100's of cars got burned and a entire part of copenhagen was anarchy for a few days, but I just couldn't fathom why the fuck the government would sell the house. It just made zero fucking sense, they weren't using it, it was a ruin noone wanted, and somehow these youngsters found some joy in it - why the hell take it away? I participated in a peaceful protest 9 days after the eviction of Ungdomshuset, as the house was called, just to show my contempt for the actions of the government in a peaceful way. There is, however, a lot of corruption in our modern-day-societies and a 'reboot' as a previous poster put it, is needed. I'm not saying democracy is bad, but it really needs an overhaul in most countries. I'm tired of just throwing my vote once every few years and let that be it. I'm not an anarchist though: society needs some sort of 'guardian' to keep this going smoothly.
Generally I think all authority should be scrutinized to the extreme so shit like this doesn't happen and when it does, the perpetrators get punished.
It reminds me of 1992 LA riot (Rodney King) which was triggered after the four white cops were freed from charges of beating down black motorist Rodney King. African Americans stormed out to the streets assaulting, destroying shops and houses and even murdering in LA for 6 + days. The total casualties 53 and damage estimated up to 1 billion $.
Ironically the biggest victim of the LA riot were Koreans who were occuyping a lot of the commercial/residential spaces.
How would you feel if your house got burnt down or if your sister got killed because of something totally unrelated to you? There are other ways to send the message across rather then sensless looting. Should take a lesson from Dr Martin Luther King.
Criminals are using the chaos to their benefit. They should be shot down.
Well, im sure that mass vandalism and trying to burn policeman is gonna make of Greece a great country.
I dont know if the methods the police use there can be consider as brutality, but answering fire with fire only causes a greater fire and more people get burned.
And if the economy is bad... Well, welcome to the world, and most of it is not rioting like that.
On December 17 2008 18:00 HeadBangaa wrote: Keep in mind, the majority of people on this website believe that the populace at large should be forcefully impotent, entrusting all power to governmental institutions, based on a vague distrust of their fellow community members.
On December 17 2008 23:04 1tym wrote: It reminds me of 1992 LA riot (Rodney King) which was triggered after the four white cops were freed from charges of beating down black motorist Rodney King. African Americans stormed out to the streets assaulting, destroying shops and houses and even murdering in LA for 6 + days. The total casualties 53 and damage estimated up to 1 billion $.
Ironically the biggest victim of the LA riot were Koreans who were occuyping a lot of the commercial/residential spaces.
How would you feel if your house got burnt down or if your sister got killed because of something totally unrelated to you? There are other way to send the message across rather then sensless looting. Should take a lesson from Dr Martin Luther King.
Criminals are using the chaos to their benefit. They should be shot down.
back then some Koreans shared your opinion lol - they went bad ass mode in those riots after their stores started getting looted, bullet proof vests, shoot first, ask later mode (check after minute 1:25)
mem those photo are so nice. but I have no idea what cause that.. I jsut know it is appenning. retard TV news doesn't report the fact or the reason or the cause... only the act of riot ... I FUCKING HATE THE FUCKING NEWS
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