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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-04 18:41:14
November 04 2008 18:39 GMT
#221
[image loading]


EDIT: Not sure why pic isn't working but heres the link:

http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=redsnl2.jpg
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-04 18:42:06
November 04 2008 18:41 GMT
#222
i'm german but i'd have voted obama, no doubt 'bout that.

08 barrack(s) ftw
http://twitter.com/jhNz
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-04 19:41:46
November 04 2008 19:32 GMT
#223
On November 05 2008 03:25 Hans-Titan wrote:
Just a note on prop. 8 in Cali. My uncle, who is a homesexual, got married today I honestly can't fathom why people would want to make their communion illegal. They've known each other for 24 years before taking this final step, and seeing the two together just makes it obvious that their made for each other.

Also I don't buy the crap about gay-marriage destroying the family. Just because there's two men married, the entire family breaks apart? Come on.. The bonds of any decent family are way stronger than that, and my family has NOT suffered from having a gay couple in the house.

NO on PROP 8
YES to Obama

EDIT: Found this image was fitting...
[image loading]


It's arguable that the abolitionist and empancipation movements are an outgrowth of Christian ethics, the notion of either being an absurdity in the Greco-Roman world in which Christian ethics first originated. Although Paul and the early Patristic Fathers did not insist on an outright abolition of slavery, they regarded the insitituion as a regrettable reality showing the fallen state of man. Paul in his epistles admonished his followers against treating slaves cruely and advised that they be treated as part of the family. This was a shift, if not outright reversal of the notion of natural slavery prevalent in the ancient world. Slavery was a universal institution in the ancient world, it was Christianity which, if it did not quite abolish it, at least provided the intellectual basis for it through its insistence on the inherent dignity of all human life.

Christian ethics contributed to the empancipation of women too, in the ancient world, by viewing marriage as a mutually binding commitment, encompassing the same obligations for man and women. It's known that women played a prominent role in the leadership of the early church, and were important patronesses of the movement in its infancy. The Pauline comments about the relationships between man and women must be contrasted with Roman Patria Potestas- the Roman patriarchal order. Most of our modern sentiments about enfranchisement of the poor and wretched would probably not exist had the Roman Empire not become aligned with the Christian religion in the 4th century. This alignment of course changed Christian doctrine in fundamental ways too, of course, which became partially romanized, but it's wrong for secularized thinkers to accuse Christianity of being the source modern moral problems, when all people, especially those on the left (with the exception of certain disciples of Nietzsche or Social Darwinists,) are indebted to its influence.

P.S. The comic above cites mosaic law, and it would be lying to say that mosaic law has not been adopted, in some historic instances by Christianity, but the prevailing view since Aquinas has been that the judiciary function of mosaic law were temporary, as opposed to its moral function, and ceased to be binding since the new covenant with Christ. That is, mosaic law was applicable only for the pre-Christian era.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
November 04 2008 19:46 GMT
#224
I voted for Obama. I wanted to vote for Barr, but he wasn't even on the ballot in my state. I don't think they read write-in votes, so I bit the bullet and did what I had to do.

Does anyone besides me not completely trust those voting machines? You don't even have to put the paper in a certain way, I just feel like there's no accountabiity
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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
November 04 2008 19:58 GMT
#225
Man, I really wish I weren't a convicted felon.

It'd be nice to vote
returns upon momentous occasions.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
November 04 2008 19:59 GMT
#226
On November 05 2008 04:58 HonestTea wrote:
Man, I really wish I weren't a convicted felon.

It'd be nice to vote

what did you do :O
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NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
November 04 2008 20:04 GMT
#227
On November 05 2008 04:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I voted for Obama. I wanted to vote for Barr, but he wasn't even on the ballot in my state. I don't think they read write-in votes, so I bit the bullet and did what I had to do.

Does anyone besides me not completely trust those voting machines? You don't even have to put the paper in a certain way, I just feel like there's no accountabiity


In reality, you cant trust any of them. Whether they are lying or simply cannot implement what they wanted to do in policy (whether congress votes against it etc)
Treatin' fools since '87
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
November 04 2008 20:11 GMT
#228
On November 05 2008 04:32 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2008 03:25 Hans-Titan wrote:
Just a note on prop. 8 in Cali. My uncle, who is a homesexual, got married today I honestly can't fathom why people would want to make their communion illegal. They've known each other for 24 years before taking this final step, and seeing the two together just makes it obvious that their made for each other.

Also I don't buy the crap about gay-marriage destroying the family. Just because there's two men married, the entire family breaks apart? Come on.. The bonds of any decent family are way stronger than that, and my family has NOT suffered from having a gay couple in the house.

NO on PROP 8
YES to Obama

EDIT: Found this image was fitting...
[image loading]


It's arguable that the abolitionist and empancipation movements are an outgrowth of Christian ethics, the notion of either being an absurdity in the Greco-Roman world in which Christian ethics first originated. Although Paul and the early Patristic Fathers did not insist on an outright abolition of slavery, they regarded the insitituion as a regrettable reality showing the fallen state of man. Paul in his epistles admonished his followers against treating slaves cruely and advised that they be treated as part of the family. This was a shift, if not outright reversal of the notion of natural slavery prevalent in the ancient world. Slavery was a universal institution in the ancient world, it was Christianity which, if it did not quite abolish it, at least provided the intellectual basis for it through its insistence on the inherent dignity of all human life.

Christian ethics contributed to the empancipation of women too, in the ancient world, by viewing marriage as a mutually binding commitment, encompassing the same obligations for man and women. It's known that women played a prominent role in the leadership of the early church, and were important patronesses of the movement in its infancy. The Pauline comments about the relationships between man and women must be contrasted with Roman Patria Potestas- the Roman patriarchal order. Most of our modern sentiments about enfranchisement of the poor and wretched would probably not exist had the Roman Empire not become aligned with the Christian religion in the 4th century. This alignment of course changed Christian doctrine in fundamental ways too, of course, which became partially romanized, but it's wrong for secularized thinkers to accuse Christianity of being the source modern moral problems, when all people, especially those on the left (with the exception of certain disciples of Nietzsche or Social Darwinists,) are indebted to its influence.

P.S. The comic above cites mosaic law, and it would be lying to say that mosaic law has not been adopted, in some historic instances by Christianity, but the prevailing view since Aquinas has been that the judiciary function of mosaic law were temporary, as opposed to its moral function, and ceased to be binding since the new covenant with Christ. That is, mosaic law was applicable only for the pre-Christian era.


Jesus, christ. o.O I'm not even going to debate that. The comic was meant to make you laugh, not spark a huge debate :D
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
November 04 2008 21:34 GMT
#229
don't let moltke convince you that the dialects of Thomas Aquinas supported modern theories on gender. Dante's Beatrice is enough to show you this.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
November 04 2008 21:47 GMT
#230
HAHAHA
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
November 04 2008 22:04 GMT
#231
voted Obama and yes/no/no/no/no on Ohio's ballot measures~
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 04 2008 22:13 GMT
#232
you can read christian ethics in various ways, since it is a multifaceted tradition.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-04 22:34:29
November 04 2008 22:34 GMT
#233
I voted for Obama

Also voted to legalize medicinal marijuana.
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
November 04 2008 22:36 GMT
#234
On November 05 2008 04:59 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2008 04:58 HonestTea wrote:
Man, I really wish I weren't a convicted felon.

It'd be nice to vote

what did you do :O


yarly
only_human89
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States212 Posts
November 04 2008 22:46 GMT
#235
damn i love being American...a toast to being proud of where we come from people(and not just Americans)
"You're a pathetic, jerk, loser, and I wouldn't kiss you if I had brain cancer and your lips were the cure" LOOOOL
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-05 04:38:18
November 05 2008 00:23 GMT
#236
On November 04 2008 23:27 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2008 22:18 HeadBangaa wrote:
I'm being facetious, relax.

Actually I completely agree with this guy (from some blog):

On November 04 2008 17:15 Not_Computer wrote:
Ah, this is such a touchy topic I don't know how to go about it without being offending to someone out there. But here's my opinion:

Garriage.

It's not "marriage" but it's just as special. In fact, its so special that it's not the same word as marriage! The couple are still entitled to all the nuts and bolts of marriage but adjusted appropriately so that its for the same sex.

There's still that special union, still that special pact, still the same expectations of domestic abuse and divorce (though actually Garriage would probably have statistically lower of these). Now you won't have to worry about uncivilized and uneducated co-workers asking you who your "wife" is if you're married to your husband and vice versa. You won't have to hear all the religious cries about how it's crossing over into the holy matrimony of the pencil being put into the pencil sharpener and how putting the pencil tip on the eraser end is a sin.

Sure it isn't what most homosexuals are after, but why do we have to change the definition for something that's existed for so many centuries and millenia.

(note: not to be confused with "garage".)


I thought about it, and my main problem is with the semantic change. I think it's culturally coercive. Give that type of union its own name, and voila, I'm a happy camper.


Come on dude, you're really gonna vote yes over semantics?!?! =[

THINK OF THIS MAN

[image loading]


I agree that a nuclear family is ideal, but we gotta deal with reality. Gay parents can make just as capable parents, and, in most situations, adoption agencies would give a kid to a good family, not some fucked up one.

Do the right thing dude!!!


I WANT TO PLAY ON THE CELTICS, NOT FAIR!

Voted:
Chuck Baldwin, Constitutional Party
Yes on Prop 8.
No on Prop 2.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
November 05 2008 00:30 GMT
#237
Voted McCain!
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
November 05 2008 00:43 GMT
#238
I voted for Science.

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
November 05 2008 01:57 GMT
#239
On November 05 2008 03:41 jhNz wrote:
i'm german but i'd have voted obama, no doubt 'bout that.

08 barrack(s) ftw

I'm really surprized to not have heard any 8rax jokes about barack 08 etc. (yet?)
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 05 2008 02:04 GMT
#240
On November 05 2008 10:57 Valentine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2008 03:41 jhNz wrote:
i'm german but i'd have voted obama, no doubt 'bout that.

08 barrack(s) ftw

I'm really surprized to not have heard any 8rax jokes about barack 08 etc. (yet?)


i made tons earlier this year
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