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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
"He is pro-free trade, not an alarmist on globalization, and a defender of subprime lending on the grounds that it has expanded home-ownership for minorities." haha! (the article, published in August in the neocon Weekly Standard, writes the above approvingly) | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On October 30 2008 06:22 Carnac wrote: This may sound random to some people, but I just noticed that the election is on a Tuesday... over here elections are always on a Sunday. We have Sunday too, but you can vote like 10 days earlier for 5 days period then there is few days waiting for actual election day. Last election around 32% voted before actual election day. | ||
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boghat
United States2109 Posts
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
On October 30 2008 08:11 HnR)hT wrote: Here is that article on Austan Goolsbee: "He is pro-free trade, not an alarmist on globalization, and a defender of subprime lending on the grounds that it has expanded home-ownership for minorities." haha! (the article, published in August in the neocon Weekly Standard, writes the above approvingly) Goddamn minorities and their goddamn home-ownership. | ||
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
On October 30 2008 08:46 HeadBangaa wrote: Goddamn minorities and their goddamn home-ownership. Home ownership? That requires that you actually pay your mortgage loans  | ||
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Tyraz
New Zealand310 Posts
On October 30 2008 08:56 HnR)hT wrote: Home ownership? That requires that you actually pay your mortgage loans It does? Tell the people in Australia that! We have a house there, and everyone is mortgaged up to the hilt; more specifically, do renters not count? Besides, all you Americans knock socialism simply because it is socialism. That is just stupid. Thats like hating ice cream just because it's called ice cream, and not really trying the smooth tasty goodness thats within. So communism got a bad name from the Soviet Union. But that wasn't Communism anyways! That was a dictator ship built around the word communism. To the same extent; the two party system is almost as close too a dictatorship as the entire western world! Seriously what the hell kind of choice is represented by two parties that are almost identical (as much as you'd like to say they're MILES apart) They are both so far right your almost voting for a name. In the name of getting the indepentants (which are the only people who actually count, since hard core's vote for their party regardless) they've turned into practically the same thing! You call a progressive tax socialist, and yet nearly every country in the western world has it! Too be fair, I'd say big business probably sponsors both sides, for promises and favors. In all fairness; not much would really change regardless. It seems everyone in America is ether a Republicrat or Demopublican with the same people in power benefiting regardless... What the hell kinda sham is that for a Democracy is that!? | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
On October 30 2008 07:17 KlaCkoN wrote: Of course you don't, so whats the stakes? 100 bucks? An official apology for our stupidity posted whereever the winner wants? Or just the right to a "lololol ur stupid" quote?. Not that neither me nor you will remember it in four years but still. So Klackon, you are willing to bet money that during the start of a recession, with a proposed national health care system and only a tax increase on the wealthy, that the debt will decrease several trillion dollars? I hope you don't ever go to Vegas. | ||
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Tyraz
New Zealand310 Posts
On October 30 2008 09:50 Savio wrote: So Klackon, you are willing to bet money that during the start of a recession, with a proposed national health care system and only a tax increase on the wealthy, that the debt will decrease several trillion dollars? I hope you don't ever go to Vegas. Didn't Elvis write a song about Vegas? | ||
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
We are talking about America, not Australia. | ||
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
You call a progressive tax socialist We do? Then both Republicans and Democrats must self-designate as socialist, since both are for progressive taxation. And if we are far-right, what does that make Russia - a country that does have a flat tax? | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
I turned it on and was like 'oh man this is cheesy as balls' and turned it off. It might be true and all, but man way 2 lame. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
what place did you get  | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On October 30 2008 10:15 HnR)hT wrote: And if we are far-right, what does that make Russia - a country that does have a flat tax? I don't know what that makes Russia, but the killing of journalists who criticize the government makes it pretty damn far to the right. | ||
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Doctorasul
Romania1145 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Someone with more stones watch it >=[ | ||
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
On October 30 2008 11:06 Mindcrime wrote: I don't know what that makes Russia, but the killing of journalists who criticize the government makes it pretty damn far to the right. edit: I can't tell if you are joking or serious. I wouldn't put it past many of the posters here to actually think along those lines. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
yes To quote Karl Hess... “Power, concentrated in few hands, is the dominant historic characteristic of what most people, in most times, have considered the political and economic right wing." “The far left, as far as you can get away from the right, would logically represent the opposite tendency and, in fact, has done just that throughout history. The left has been the side of politics and economics that opposes the concentration of power and wealth and, instead, advocates and works toward the distribution of power into the maximum number of hands." “The attitude on that farthest left toward law and order was summed up by an early French anarchist, Proudhon, who said that ‘order is the daughter of and not the mother of liberty.’ Let people be absolutely free, says this farthest of the far, far left (the left that Communism regularly denounces as too left; Lenin called it ‘infantile left’). " | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
so calling authoritarianism 'left' or 'right' is not going to get us anywhere except rhetorical posturing, authoritarianism is the characteristic of particular regimes. although, to be technical, the right's understanding of liberty is a bit narrower than that of the left | ||
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