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Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-27 21:34:16
October 27 2008 21:07 GMT
#1081
On October 28 2008 04:16 boghat wrote:
McCain isn't even that far ahead in Arizona, look at the latest three polls from that state:

10/26 Rasmussen - McCain +5
10/24 Project NewWest - McCain +4
10/19 Zimmerman - McCain +2


Clinton actually lost his home state

EDIT: This was a brain fart guys. Pretend you never saw it
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
October 27 2008 21:18 GMT
#1082
On October 28 2008 05:35 HnR)hT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2008 04:31 Phoned wrote:
- Substantial increase in the human population in an already overpopulated world
- Poverty would escalate
- Crime and drug-use would escalate
- Increase in social service costs
- Increased child neglect, increased child abuse, and increased child abandonment
- Pregnant women would risk their health with botched, illegal abortions

And your proof for any of the above is...?
On the other side of the abortion debate, Republican Santorum says that suicides by women, and also crime, "got worse, much worse" after Roe. But in fact, the female suicide rate is one-third lower now than in 1973. And the Justice Department's annual survey on crime victimization shows a 69 percent drop in property crime and a 53 percent drop in violent crime since Roe.

http://www.factcheck.org/society/abortion_distortions.html

You can ask me to validate every word with 10 citations from reputable sources, but you and I both know that my list isn't very controversial. Unwanted births would create plenty of financial and social problems.

On October 28 2008 05:35 HnR)hT wrote:
Show nested quote +
Removing a woman's right to choose is the opposite of progress.

Progress is code word for creeping leftism. Just because something is non-leftist or anti-leftist doesn't mean it is a bad thing. In fact, quite the contrary.
I'm not using the word "progress" to push any political agenda. When I say "progress," I mean human progress. Moral stances aside, abortion benefits the human race. When a woman decides to abort her pregnancy, it's because she has made a decision that she does not want to care for her child. It hurts our species when we have children that aren't being raised in a caring, supportive environment.

On October 28 2008 05:35 HnR)hT wrote:
Show nested quote +
Approximately 25% of the world population lives in countries with highly restrictive abortion laws, mostly in Latin America, Africa and Asia. These are lesser developed countries where religious beliefs are often put ahead of science.

Proving what, exactly?
I only pointed that out to show that there could be a correlation between a country's abortion laws, and its state of development. It's no secret that the quality of life for the average person in a 3rd world country is lower than that of someone in a country which is more developed. Use that statistic however you'd like, but it did help me put things into perspective.

MC Fighting!~
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-27 21:24:23
October 27 2008 21:18 GMT
#1083
Savio I suggest you listen to the entire Chiago Public Radio discussion when you get home. Obama might become our most intellectually advanced president since Teddy.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
October 27 2008 21:20 GMT
#1084
On October 28 2008 06:07 Savio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2008 04:16 boghat wrote:
McCain isn't even that far ahead in Arizona, look at the latest three polls from that state:

10/26 Rasmussen - McCain +5
10/24 Project NewWest - McCain +4
10/19 Zimmerman - McCain +2


Clinton actually lost his home state


wat
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 27 2008 21:24 GMT
#1085
For those who think that abortion is a done deal in America and that the debate is "over":

I got a bunch of statistics,but then realized they were all from pro life website, so I chucked them and got these from Gallup:

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And since "Legal in Certain" includes people like me who say it should be legal in cases of rape, incest, or to save the mother, we have this one:

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This does not look like a decided issue to me. This is a mess created by the supreme court. If states could have voted their own laws in, then this never would have been the national mess that it is now.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 27 2008 21:25 GMT
#1086
On October 28 2008 06:20 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2008 06:07 Savio wrote:
On October 28 2008 04:16 boghat wrote:
McCain isn't even that far ahead in Arizona, look at the latest three polls from that state:

10/26 Rasmussen - McCain +5
10/24 Project NewWest - McCain +4
10/19 Zimmerman - McCain +2


Clinton actually lost his home state


wat


I should clarify that I mean Bill, not Hillary.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-27 21:30:17
October 27 2008 21:28 GMT
#1087

DECLARATION:

I am now officially in favor of dropping the abortion debate in this thread. We could continue, but I do feel bad for my part in derailing a-game's thread.

Although, in my defense, the election has gotten less interesting now that we are 99% sure that Obama will win.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
October 27 2008 21:30 GMT
#1088
On October 28 2008 06:25 Savio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2008 06:20 Mindcrime wrote:
On October 28 2008 06:07 Savio wrote:
On October 28 2008 04:16 boghat wrote:
McCain isn't even that far ahead in Arizona, look at the latest three polls from that state:

10/26 Rasmussen - McCain +5
10/24 Project NewWest - McCain +4
10/19 Zimmerman - McCain +2


Clinton actually lost his home state


wat


I should clarify that I mean Bill, not Hillary.


again.... wat
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 27 2008 21:33 GMT
#1089
On October 28 2008 06:30 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2008 06:25 Savio wrote:
On October 28 2008 06:20 Mindcrime wrote:
On October 28 2008 06:07 Savio wrote:
On October 28 2008 04:16 boghat wrote:
McCain isn't even that far ahead in Arizona, look at the latest three polls from that state:

10/26 Rasmussen - McCain +5
10/24 Project NewWest - McCain +4
10/19 Zimmerman - McCain +2


Clinton actually lost his home state


wat


I should clarify that I mean Bill, not Hillary.


again.... wat


hmm...I coulda sworn....oops

/blushes
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
October 27 2008 21:33 GMT
#1090
On October 28 2008 06:07 Savio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2008 04:16 boghat wrote:
McCain isn't even that far ahead in Arizona, look at the latest three polls from that state:

10/26 Rasmussen - McCain +5
10/24 Project NewWest - McCain +4
10/19 Zimmerman - McCain +2


Clinton actually lost his home state

Clinton won Arkansas both elections, you're probably thinking about Gore who lost Tennessee.
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 27 2008 21:33 GMT
#1091
On October 28 2008 06:33 boghat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2008 06:07 Savio wrote:
On October 28 2008 04:16 boghat wrote:
McCain isn't even that far ahead in Arizona, look at the latest three polls from that state:

10/26 Rasmussen - McCain +5
10/24 Project NewWest - McCain +4
10/19 Zimmerman - McCain +2


Clinton actually lost his home state

Clinton won Arkansas both elections, you're probably thinking about Gore who lost Tennessee.



My bad. Sorry ya'll
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32159 Posts
October 27 2008 21:35 GMT
#1092
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/ap_on_el_pr/skinhead_plot

Mr. Obama was apparently targeted... and another example of 88 being a skinhead symbol! BAN INC!!!!

That's pretty fucked up. Each time my friends joke about him getting picked off, I actually go to check now, because I'm so sure a legit attempt is just a matter of time away. Fucking sad man.



Anyway, regarding abortion, this country would be 10x worse off if it was made illegal. Instead of having a clusterfuck of jizz and egg 'die' in a clean, safe operating room, you could potentially have the mother die when she goes and gets an alleyway abortion because she knows she can't afford to support a mistake. Then, instead of having one person, you get two on the public teat when she can't afford to take care of herself and her baby.

Most abortions are done very early, so the whole 'killing a human' is nonsense. It's a mass of cells at that point—no brain waves, no organs, nada. I agree with the ban on late abortions due to the sembelance towards a real human. Outside of that, it's the woman's choice, cuz it's her body, which the govt has no right to regulate.

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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 27 2008 21:36 GMT
#1093
What are you talking about Savio. That shows just how decided it is.
You have 81% saying legal, 18% saying illegal, 1% no opinion. It's not like legal in a few + illegal in all are that closely related. All legal positions state, "we accept it" some just have conditions.
When it comes down to being legal or illegal, legal wins.

Is your stance that it should only be legal in certain circumstances, such as rape & incest?
But illegal when it is an irresponsible mistake?

It's honestly too difficult to put proper measures into place and to check everyones background to make sure they're telling the truth about their reasons. So it's better left legal and having some trust for most peoples discretion in this matter.

Again, the majority have decided. The issue is settled, it is here to stay. And people are sick of talking it.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
October 27 2008 21:37 GMT
#1094
On October 28 2008 06:28 Savio wrote:

DECLARATION:

I am now officially in favor of dropping the abortion debate in this thread. We could continue, but I do feel bad for my part in derailing a-game's thread.

Although, in my defense, the election has gotten less interesting now that we are 99% sure that Obama will win.
Yeah, the abortion topic isn't going anywhere.

Back on topic:

I don't think that McCain lost this election. I think the GOP lost this election. If all McCain did was concentrate on the issues and select a running-mate with a brain... the republicans would have won again.

MC Fighting!~
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 27 2008 21:37 GMT
#1095
On October 28 2008 04:33 D10 wrote:
McCain campaign adds is like trying to nail jelly to the wall



Does that mean that Obama has all the substance of Jelly
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
October 27 2008 21:37 GMT
#1096
I was just about to post that story, very sad.
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 27 2008 21:43 GMT
#1097
On October 28 2008 06:36 MYM.Testie wrote:
What are you talking about Savio. That shows just how decided it is.
You have 81% saying legal, 18% saying illegal, 1% no opinion. It's not like legal in a few + illegal in all are that closely related. All legal positions state, "we accept it" some just have conditions.
When it comes down to being legal or illegal, legal wins.


/trying to keep my word so will only say:

You suck bad at interpreting graphs.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 27 2008 21:43 GMT
#1098
Phoned, to be honest I doubt it. I don't think the republicans will ever win an election again as the population becomes more intelligent and older people begin to die off. Their party line is too outdated, and they really need to split into two factions. The religious crazies can form one party, true republicans can form another party.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 27 2008 21:47 GMT
#1099
On October 28 2008 06:35 Hawk wrote:
Mr. Obama was apparently targeted... and another example of 88 being a skinhead symbol! BAN INC!!!!

That's pretty fucked up. Each time my friends joke about him getting picked off, I actually go to check now, because I'm so sure a legit attempt is just a matter of time away. Fucking sad man.



Thats scary. Although I hate his policies, an assassination of Obama would be one of the worst things that could happen to our country.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 27 2008 21:48 GMT
#1100
On October 28 2008 06:37 Savio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2008 04:33 D10 wrote:
McCain campaign adds is like trying to nail jelly to the wall



Does that mean that Obama has all the substance of Jelly

you know, ignorance is not cool.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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