Opinion on Vaccines? - Page 2

Chezinu

United States7456 Posts

March 17 2008 00:06 GMT

#21

On March 17 2008 07:58 Slayer91 wrote:
A friend's family has a kid who has autism, they had video's of him doing things he had isn't currently able to do before he some kind of vaccination, (3 in 1 I think) and now he has autism, not saying they are directly related, but putting lots of (weakened) diseases into a fragile child's immune system can't always be good.

BTW: Hasn't the amount of people who have autism much higher than it was before?

Oh, and my cousin also may have autism, and she also took the vaccinations.

EDIT: Yes, I checked the wikipedia page, there is a chart saying that from 1996-2005 the amount of people affected with autism (U.S) has more than quadrupled. Something has to be causing it, right?

The amount of diagnosis for autism has increase due to doctors being more aware of it. Here, this graph should explain itself.

MaZza[KIS]

Australia2110 Posts

March 17 2008 00:13 GMT

#22

On March 17 2008 08:33 skindzer wrote:

Show nested quote +

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?cat=36

LOL... absolutely LOVE that graph!

Increase in population... increase in population density.... increase in self-awareness... increse in detection methods... jeeez.. these could all be things "related" to more autism... you can't just look at two trends, "compare them" and draw a conclusion.

God knows perfect algebra and we're all just statisticians.

tiffany

3664 Posts

March 17 2008 00:18 GMT

#23

On March 17 2008 08:28 dybydx wrote:
Ecael,

Small pox can kill you, flu generally can not. Of course, small pox is extinct by now, so its not a concern. Last I recall, flu vaccine is only necessary for elderly, children or people with sensitive illnesses.

It is not a necessity for the general masses.

actually this is wrong. every flu season many colleges offer free, or cheap flu shots to their students. and giving flu shots to people with "sensitive illnesses" makes no sense. if by sensitive illnesses, you mean sensitive immune systems or problematic immune systems, then no, that is also wrong. vaccines should only be taken by people with healthy immune systems.

i think you confused - the flu is especially deadly for elderly, children, and people with weak body defenses, but the vaccine is recommended for everybody.

the efficacy of the flu vaccine is an example of one of the "negatives" of preventative medicine. because the virus is highly mutagenic, there is no practical way to combat it presently, and each season the CDC has to choose like five different vaccines to give - out of maybe 20+ possible strains.

edit - reread your post and realized i may have misinterpreted it. you are right about the vaccine being not "necessary" for everyone.

Starparty

Sweden1963 Posts

March 17 2008 00:27 GMT

#24

it can also turn out as bad as it did in sweden 1982. The government decided that every woman was to get vaccinated against rubella. The reason was that rubella can cause women to give birth to deformed kids if they get it at mid-age.

Rubella is basically a child disease, if you get it at a young age it wont give you any remaining symptoms and gives you a lot of red itchy rashes. Rubella is also pretty much harmless to men.

But what happened with this mass vaccination was, that since it is pretty much impossible to reach out to EVERY woman and give her the vaccine, the only thing that happened was that the disease became more rare, thus less women got infected in their early years and instead they picked up the disease from men who had the disease latent later on, around their 30's when they were about to give birth. Thus the entire point of the vaccination had the exact opposite effect.

Stuff like this require extensive research before action is taken.

TheFoReveRwaR

United States10657 Posts

March 17 2008 01:51 GMT

#25

Lol god you have to be such a fucking idiot to think vaccines are "bad".

The only thing bad about them is when they are not given out properly.

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