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United States3652 Posts
http://thinktwice.com/ Poll: Vaccinations: Good or Bad? (Vote): Good (Vote): Bad Edit: I saw it on some bumper sticker at my friends baby sitter's house when I dropped her kid off...and I was wondering what the site was about... Yes...I randomly go to websites I see on bumper stickers. | ||
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tiffany
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
In short, vaccinations are good. EDIT - Yeah, there were concerns of that nature over the smallpox vaccine when the US government began to have production runs of smallpox vaccines made right after 9/11. However, most vaccines with a higher general risk aren't exactly meant for the administration to the public, but a specific sphere of personnels likely to be exposed to it. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
I didn't see any reasons why they said it's bad. It's probably a site for religious people. Look at the FAQ. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
BTW: Hasn't the amount of people who have autism much higher than it was before? Oh, and my cousin also may have autism, and she also took the vaccinations. EDIT: Yes, I checked the wikipedia page, there is a chart saying that from 1996-2005 the amount of people affected with autism (U.S) has more than quadrupled. Something has to be causing it, right? | ||
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adengren
Sweden4 Posts
There's a list to some homeopathic clinics and other hocus pocus on that page. So luckily everyone who has got vaccinated can be cured! Halleluja! | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
Small pox can kill you, flu generally can not. Of course, small pox is extinct by now, so its not a concern. Last I recall, flu vaccine is only necessary for elderly, children or people with sensitive illnesses. It is not a necessity for the general masses. | ||
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
On March 17 2008 07:58 Slayer91 wrote: A friend's family has a kid who has autism, they had video's of him doing things he had isn't currently able to do before he some kind of vaccination, (3 in 1 I think) and now he has autism, not saying they are directly related, but putting lots of (weakened) diseases into a fragile child's immune system can't always be good. BTW: Hasn't the amount of people who have autism much higher than it was before? Oh, and my cousin also may have autism, and she also took the vaccinations. EDIT: Yes, I checked the wikipedia page, there is a chart saying that from 1996-2005 the amount of people affected with autism (U.S) has more than quadrupled. Something has to be causing it, right? ![[image loading]](http://www.eurielec.etsit.upm.es/~bisho/blog_files/globaltemp_vs_pirates.jpg) http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?cat=36 | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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Ghin
United States2391 Posts
On March 17 2008 07:24 Caller wrote: Vaccinations are good for people, but people should have the right to not have one, UNLESS by doing so they endanger the livelihoods of other people. Like, a tetanus shot vs. a smallpox shot. how does not getting one endanger the lives of other people? isnt that what the vaccine is for? | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On March 17 2008 08:28 dybydx wrote: Ecael, Small pox can kill you, flu generally can not. Of course, small pox is extinct by now, so its not a concern. Last I recall, flu vaccine is only necessary for elderly, children or people with sensitive illnesses. It is not a necessity for the general masses. Then it simply depends on your interpretation of the situation then, given the realistic situation in the practical extinction of smallpox and other exotic diseases, I cannot agree to the concept that the vaccines of these diseases are more important in any way than a flu vaccine. Yes, flu vaccine is only 'necessary' for the listed population (and healthcare providers), but in that it has a demographic at all it far outweights the importance of smallpox vaccines. Thus my disagreement with your careless brushing aside of the basic vaccines like Flu and placing Smallpox before it in goodness. | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
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Chezinu
United States7456 Posts
On March 17 2008 07:58 Slayer91 wrote: A friend's family has a kid who has autism, they had video's of him doing things he had isn't currently able to do before he some kind of vaccination, (3 in 1 I think) and now he has autism, not saying they are directly related, but putting lots of (weakened) diseases into a fragile child's immune system can't always be good. BTW: Hasn't the amount of people who have autism much higher than it was before? Oh, and my cousin also may have autism, and she also took the vaccinations. EDIT: Yes, I checked the wikipedia page, there is a chart saying that from 1996-2005 the amount of people affected with autism (U.S) has more than quadrupled. Something has to be causing it, right? The amount of diagnosis for autism has increase due to doctors being more aware of it. Here, this graph should explain itself. ![[image loading]](http://photoninthedarkness.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/aut_pl_mr_cht.jpg) | ||
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MaZza[KIS]
Australia2110 Posts
LOL... absolutely LOVE that graph! Increase in population... increase in population density.... increase in self-awareness... increse in detection methods... jeeez.. these could all be things "related" to more autism... you can't just look at two trends, "compare them" and draw a conclusion. God knows perfect algebra and we're all just statisticians. | ||
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tiffany
3664 Posts
On March 17 2008 08:28 dybydx wrote: Ecael, Small pox can kill you, flu generally can not. Of course, small pox is extinct by now, so its not a concern. Last I recall, flu vaccine is only necessary for elderly, children or people with sensitive illnesses. It is not a necessity for the general masses. actually this is wrong. every flu season many colleges offer free, or cheap flu shots to their students. and giving flu shots to people with "sensitive illnesses" makes no sense. if by sensitive illnesses, you mean sensitive immune systems or problematic immune systems, then no, that is also wrong. vaccines should only be taken by people with healthy immune systems. i think you confused - the flu is especially deadly for elderly, children, and people with weak body defenses, but the vaccine is recommended for everybody. the efficacy of the flu vaccine is an example of one of the "negatives" of preventative medicine. because the virus is highly mutagenic, there is no practical way to combat it presently, and each season the CDC has to choose like five different vaccines to give - out of maybe 20+ possible strains. edit - reread your post and realized i may have misinterpreted it. you are right about the vaccine being not "necessary" for everyone. | ||
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Starparty
Sweden1963 Posts
Rubella is basically a child disease, if you get it at a young age it wont give you any remaining symptoms and gives you a lot of red itchy rashes. Rubella is also pretty much harmless to men. But what happened with this mass vaccination was, that since it is pretty much impossible to reach out to EVERY woman and give her the vaccine, the only thing that happened was that the disease became more rare, thus less women got infected in their early years and instead they picked up the disease from men who had the disease latent later on, around their 30's when they were about to give birth. Thus the entire point of the vaccination had the exact opposite effect. Stuff like this require extensive research before action is taken. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
The only thing bad about them is when they are not given out properly. | ||
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