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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
February 10 2008 07:48 GMT
#61
I think this is all pretty funny, although I wonder who is really instigating this whole thing. Since 'anonymous" doesn't have any leaders, it could really be anybody that is causing this.
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Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 09:18:19
February 10 2008 09:17 GMT
#62
what's up with this thread?
rule 1 and 2 - really these from fight club
wtf is 4chon - only this stragen picture website?
stage6 got hacked wtf?
ebaum lol never heard of that before

I just have absolutely no clue what you guys are talking about

O_o

edit: stage6 really hacked why the fuck would you do that? not because of CoS
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
February 10 2008 10:20 GMT
#63
Well I read every fucking thing in this thread and came to a few conclusions. I also have a few questions. First I'd like to say Tom Cruise is a fucking insane rambling nut job. Second while I still don't really have a clue what the ideas and messages behind Scientology are. It seems like its pretty fucking crazy with that allien shit, and does take on many aspects of a classic cult. So while I'd like more infromation from maybe someone who really knows about Scientology. I'd say form the information at hand this group Anonymous has a legit beef. The one thing I'd really like to know is how much power does this group of hackers really have? While shuting down a webpage and faxs are annoying. I fail to see how this can really hurt or change anything for the COS.

I guess every littil bit helps, but it just seems like a waste of time. I think the webpages that talk about the criminal activitys and deaths surrounding the COS help alot more then crashing some webpages. Until i saw those websites i just thought of Scientology as some strange new religion. Its infromation like that that can change peoples minds and make people look at Scientology more as a cult then a religion.

Btw wtf is ebaumsworld?
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Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
February 10 2008 10:32 GMT
#64
On February 10 2008 19:20 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Btw wtf is ebaumsworld?


That flash video should explain a bit.

http://www.ebws.com/index.php/flash.html?page=flash

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JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
February 10 2008 10:49 GMT
#65
Isn't there a fucking freedom of religion
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betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
February 10 2008 10:55 GMT
#66
On February 10 2008 19:49 JensOfSweden wrote:
Isn't there a fucking freedom of religion


do you mean 'people can believe what they want' (pro-scientology) or 'scientology should not charge money for beliefs' (anti-scientology)?
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
February 10 2008 11:40 GMT
#67
I'm saying these retarded "activists" should leave Scientology alone

Man, these kind of activists are usually quite insane and think they have the true answers and I don't think they are better than Scientologists. I think it's a bunch of psychopaths who just happened to have chosen Scientology as their target so that they can wreak havoc and create chaos for the fun of it.
They might as well have chosen another cult or whatever, I think they just think it's a fun thing to do to be honest although they might not admit to it.

This is all bullshit and I bet those guys called Anonymous all look like big fat nerds and think they're cool when they post a video with a robotic voice

There is freedom of religion and yes betaben I mean people can believe what they want

Anyways, it's not up to some anonymous group on the internet to fucking decide what's right or wrong I think this all is so retarded tbh
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Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 12:03:09
February 10 2008 12:01 GMT
#68
On February 10 2008 19:49 JensOfSweden wrote:
Isn't there a fucking freedom of religion


there is freedom of religion of course
everybody is free to believe whatever he wants to, but the institution itself CoS sucks;
but if you are not free to leave the curch without severe consequences you really have to do something against it;

you have to read about persons who want to quit and what they had to endure because of the curch

in this respect CoS is definitely dangerous and I really don't envy the ppl, who are in such a situation

edit: I think I read the most about CoS in german and in newspapers, but maybe this helps to inform you a little bit more
http://www.xenu.net/
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
February 10 2008 12:22 GMT
#69
Yeah I know all about xenu.net and I've read alot of shit about scientology HOWEVER it's not up to some random people on the internet to decide what's right and wrong

But you have to see everything in context, people get so focused on just one thing, in this case Scientology

What about Christianity, Islam and the other major religions. Don't you think they got alot more blood on their hands compared to Scientology all in all?

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Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
February 10 2008 12:37 GMT
#70
On February 10 2008 21:22 JensOfSweden wrote:
Yeah I know all about xenu.net and I've read alot of shit about scientology HOWEVER it's not up to some random people on the internet to decide what's right and wrong

But you have to see everything in context, people get so focused on just one thing, in this case Scientology

What about Christianity, Islam and the other major religions. Don't you think they got alot more blood on their hands compared to Scientology all in all?



If no one else is doing anything about it, why not "some random people on the internet".

I think Scientology is still in such an infant age, that there is still hope to supress it before it gets out of hand, as outrageous as Scientology is to us now, it could very well be the norm in 50 years time. But maybe its just another system of control, as more and more people are turning away from the traditional religions, perhaps they had to come up with something new.

I sort of have a theory as to why people are attracted to Scientology and it might have something to do with the fact that you pay, maybe people are in such a mindset that if you're paying for it, it must be real.

/shrug.
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betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 14:47:25
February 10 2008 14:28 GMT
#71
I'm sorry, I wrote something, but have since decided not to stir.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 15:40:06
February 10 2008 15:24 GMT
#72
On February 10 2008 12:06 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2008 10:42 ManaBlue wrote:
On February 10 2008 10:32 fusionsdf wrote:
On February 10 2008 10:31 ManaBlue wrote:
Sorry for being "not geeky enough", but am I the only one that doesn't know what rules 1 and 2 are?


1. Don't mess with football
2. Don't mess with football

hint: think fight club


Oh.

Well that's kind of boring.

God I hate 4chan.


actually:
1. You do not talk about /b/.
2. You do not talk about /b/.
3. When someone yells "Stop" or goes limp, or taps out, the fight is over.
4. Only two guys to a fight.
5. One fight at a time.
6. No tits, no -chan.
7. Fights go on as long as they have to.
8. If this is your first night at /b/, you have to fight.


funny thing is, no one used to take them seriously. now every third post is RULES ONE AND TWO ONLY APPLY TO RAIDS!!!W

its sad really


4chan has gotten really, really lame in the past year.

you arent missing anything. except reposts reposts

"4 chan has gotten really, really lame in the past year" Or maybe you've finally grown up enough to realize how lame it is?

People who bother to "protest" scientology clearly have nothing better to do.

Who the fuck cares if a bunch of idiots waste their money on a bullshit religion. Its not like they're going to harm you or take over the world or anything.

Freedom of Religion is one thing. But honestly, pick your fucking battles people. Is scientology really the worst thing you have to worry about? Pretty sad really.

Now I understand that there are some who have been directly and adversely affected by scientology. Maybe a mother who's son has fallen into that trap and wastes a shitload of his money on it and can't really support himself because of it. But, not to sound like a dick (although I probably am), this son is obviously a huge idiot, and scientology is probably one of the better things he could be into. As opposed to meth, or heroine. Or sniffing glue. Or any other retarded thing people do to waste time/money/ or their lives. At least scientology provides some structure and a feeling of acceptance.
And who knows maybe one day he'll become a famous actor and marry a beautiful actress so nobody thinks hes gay. You know, just to throw them off.
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 15:25:42
February 10 2008 15:24 GMT
#73
Sydney's protest was highly amusing from any perspective. It was a shame I wasn't able to be there tbh. Nevertheless, being 12.52 on the 11th in Darwin, Australia ... I suppose it's time to read the reports of protests everywhere else.

Also, JensofSweden, I would argue a significant amount of the push by anonymous in this situation isn't as much to adjudicate a right or wrong as it is to inform people of what the CoS has done. Both the partvan wiki and a lot of the discussion on the chans themselves seems to reinforce this is as much about informing people of what the Church of Scientology has done so they can decide for themselves as it is creating chaos and misery for the CoS itself.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 10 2008 16:37 GMT
#74
On February 10 2008 18:17 Sadir wrote:
what's up with this thread?
rule 1 and 2 - really these from fight club
wtf is 4chon - only this stragen picture website?
stage6 got hacked wtf?
ebaum lol never heard of that before

I just have absolutely no clue what you guys are talking about

O_o

edit: stage6 really hacked why the fuck would you do that? not because of CoS


rules 1 and 2 are from fight club yes. They used to be semi-joke rules. Now they are taken seriously and are constantly repeated by 14 year olds. Its also been warped so it only applies during raids, which is of course stupid, but 4chan is so full of new users that people pretend thats how its always been.

4chon = 4chan. Came from some shitty convention movie where these people tried to throw around memes, failed, and pronounced 4chan wrong.

4chan started as an anime/hentai site and quickly started growing a lot of memes. For a long time, 4chan was just college students acting dumb, and you would see really clever macros and joke posts. We started getting a whole bunch of underage (or mentally underage users) especially after the habbo raids and lost a lot of old posters. We lost even more after desu. Meanwhile, 4chan became more and more oriented to the new users - instead of clever posts, we had meaningless raids -habbo, stickam, random anime forums. Now 4chan is just repeating memes. The new user is the reason threads like "This is my /b/ face" exist.

Instead of smart people acting dumb, its now dumb people acting dumb.

ebaumsworld is a video site basically. They find other people's content, steal it, take it for their own. Basically what happened is ebaums world stole a lohan gif. this one, but it didnt have the ytmnd tags then. Then ytmnd got together with SA, fark, lue, and a couple of 4channers, and like ddosed ebaums. 4chan didnt really have that much involvement, but we got a lot of users from ytmnd. Most were total idiots, and promoted more raids. They started raiding random sites, and everytime they raided a site, they would come back with more idiots. Habbo was the biggest raid, and is probably the biggest marker of a shift in quality on 4chan.

As for why 4chan would hack stage6? Anonymous isnt unified, and never has been. So it doesnt surprise me.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32139 Posts
February 10 2008 16:42 GMT
#75
On February 10 2008 20:40 JensOfSweden wrote:
I'm saying these retarded "activists" should leave Scientology alone

Man, these kind of activists are usually quite insane and think they have the true answers and I don't think they are better than Scientologists. I think it's a bunch of psychopaths who just happened to have chosen Scientology as their target so that they can wreak havoc and create chaos for the fun of it.
They might as well have chosen another cult or whatever, I think they just think it's a fun thing to do to be honest although they might not admit to it.

This is all bullshit and I bet those guys called Anonymous all look like big fat nerds and think they're cool when they post a video with a robotic voice

There is freedom of religion and yes betaben I mean people can believe what they want

Anyways, it's not up to some anonymous group on the internet to fucking decide what's right or wrong I think this all is so retarded tbh


Gotta agree with Jens. Until they start actually effecting those who don't want to join, who gives a shit? Let people chose to be fucking idiots. It doesn't effect you.
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rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
February 10 2008 17:11 GMT
#76
On February 10 2008 19:49 JensOfSweden wrote:
Isn't there a fucking freedom of religion

Yes.

That's not what the protests are about.
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almostfamous
Profile Joined January 2008
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 17:22:38
February 10 2008 17:21 GMT
#77
I don't like scientology because they hate psychology and psyciatry.

I'm a psych major, so...... yea.

Other than that I don't really like scientology because there are a lot of fishy things that go down around it; like how L. Ron Hubbard's wife was charged with breaking and entering(among other things) in the IRS building to steal personal information on their enemies at the time. I believe she is still serving time for that one. I don't like how they purposly spread lies and misinformation about anybody who has a bad word to say about CoS, critics exist to keep a (duh) critical eye on everything. I don't like that their front group Narcanon uses bad techniques to get people to break drug habits (cold turkey). It is excruiciatingly painful (and sometimes fatal) for heroin addicts to go cold turkey, so weening them off is the proven best way to do it; Narcanon doesn't think so.

Also, I don't like any organization that makes you pay for salvation. Or, for that matter, encourages you to serperate yourself from your family network if they are not part of the scientologist movement.

The above is what Anonymous is protesting, not the fact that its a new religion. Anon would not get any traction if they were simply protesting a quirky new religion, they are protesting the conduct of the "church".

Good day
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 10 2008 17:37 GMT
#78
Video or pixelated pics from London protest.
http://www.qik.com/anonlondon?page=1

Someone else update, I'm going out (not to protest wakaka).
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Hitokiri
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Spain306 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 18:11:40
February 10 2008 18:11 GMT
#79
Congratulations, if we put this much effort against criminal organizations such as FARC, or Al-Qaeda, many more in Pakistan, Iran terrorism would be long dead?

Church of Scientology is the least of my worries.
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
February 10 2008 18:18 GMT
#80
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