Do you see the dancer turning clockwise or anti-clockwise?
If clockwise, then you use more of the right side of the brain and vice versa.
Most of us would see the dancer turning anti-clockwise though you can try to focus and change the direction.
LEFT BRAIN FUNCTIONS uses logic detail oriented facts rule words and language present and past math and science can comprehend knowing acknowledges order/pattern perception knows object name reality based forms strategies practical safe
RIGHT BRAIN FUNCTIONS uses feeling "big picture" oriented imagination rules symbols and images present and future philosophy & religion can "get it" (i.e. meaning) believes appreciates spatial perception knows object function fantasy based presents possibilities impetuous risk taking
Poll: Which way did you see it going first? (Vote): Clockwise (Right Brained) (Vote): Counter-Clockwise (Left Brained)
Poll: What name should we give the spinning girl? (Vote): Penelope (Vote): Emily (Vote): Genevieve (Vote): Stacey (Vote): Spinning Bitch (Vote): Blacky (Vote): Big Tits McGee (Vote): Pocahontas (Vote): Queen Latifah (Vote): Zia
Well I must say this is one stupid test. Isn't THIS OBVIOUS THAT THE PERSON IS TURNING CLOCKWISE? LIKE WHAT? I can not find a reason how someone would see this... ahem, doll, is spinning counter-clockwise. Well unless you got the words mixed up, that is. I think this is very inaccurate as I usually consider myself more logical than creative as I am more inclined into the scientific world rather than the artistic world.
That is trippy, normally if I'm focusing on the image, I see the object moving clockwise. However, if I choose to leave the image present and start working on anything else, i.e. using aim or such, in the corner of my eye, the object moves counter-clockwise. The hell does that mean?
On October 12 2007 16:08 chocolat wrote: Well I must say this is one stupid test. Isn't THIS OBVIOUS THAT THE PERSON IS TURNING CLOCKWISE? LIKE WHAT?
God your a git.
I see it running counterclockwise, and stare as much as I can still cant get it to go the other way. Ill keep trying
EDIT: WOAH she just changed direction, as if the Gif file was rigged or something
EDIT 2: Ok if I focus on the leg going behind the other leg, then she switches to counter-clockwise, if I focus on her breasts then she goes clockwise. I guess that answers why people are only seeing clockwise
dude this is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo trippy, at first I thought there would be no way possible to see her counter-clockwise but I put my point of view under her and somehow she turns to counter-clockwise but as soon as my sight goes anywhere near her again she turns clockwise, trippppppppppppy.
On October 12 2007 16:08 chocolat wrote: Well I must say this is one stupid test. Isn't THIS OBVIOUS THAT THE PERSON IS TURNING CLOCKWISE? LIKE WHAT?
God your a git.
I see it running counterclockwise, and stare as much as I can still cant get it to go the other way. Ill keep trying
EDIT: WOAH she just changed direction, as if the Gif file was rigged or something
EDIT 2: Ok if I focus on the leg going behind the other leg, then she switches to counter-clockwise, if I focus on her breasts then she goes clockwise. I guess that answers why people are only seeing clockwise
Yeah depends where you're focusing if you focus on the top than yeah she go clockwise but if you look at her leg/feet she goes counter scared me at first
shit, I got it to go counter-clockwise, now I can't get it to go clockwise lol, I'm even staring at her boobs.
EDIT: Nevermind, I can freely change the direction of which she is going by just blinking sorta. All I did was focus on her thigh and imagined it spinning the other way... (probably why I see it spinning clockwise to begin with anyway)
Focus on the bottom portion of her body, from her hips to her extended leg, then blink every few seconds concentrating on which direction the extended leg moves. If you blink at the right moment, you should see the movement go the opposite direction eventually. Seems more like its all about what frame you looked at the image, and where you started from to me.
hahaha omg i was like wtf this is total BS no way its turning counter then i somehow managed to force myself i wals ike FUCK TURN COUNTER CLOCKWISE BITCH TURNNNNN then it suddenl went counter.
After half an hour I still can't get it turning counter-clockwise unless thinking of looking from the bottom. But the actual picture is wanting you to stare at the whole picture. FOR THOSE WHO CANT GET IT CLOCKWISE- observe the trace the doll makes with its legs-definately clockwise.
On October 12 2007 16:37 chocolat wrote: After half an hour I still can't get it turning counter-clockwise unless thinking of looking from the bottom. But the actual picture is wanting you to stare at the whole picture. FOR THOSE WHO CANT GET IT CLOCKWISE- observe the trace the doll makes with its legs-definately clockwise.
the shadow is equally clockwise as it is counter for me haha
On October 12 2007 16:37 chocolat wrote: After half an hour I still can't get it turning counter-clockwise unless thinking of looking from the bottom. But the actual picture is wanting you to stare at the whole picture. FOR THOSE WHO CANT GET IT CLOCKWISE- observe the trace the doll makes with its legs-definately clockwise.
That's what I thought, but when you see it anti-clockwise...you are seeing it exactly as you do when it's clockwise...but reversed obviously.
Well ask yourself is the doll motioning towards her left or right? If right, then its clockwise. If left, then its anti-clockwise. It is moving in a circular motion towards her right, hence it is a clockwise motion.
jesus, when I first looked at it I saw her constantly changing back and forth, so one turn clock wise, one turn counter, back and forth until she kept going clockwise, and if I watch her feet and think about it going one particular way it just kinda goes that way..weird but cool
On October 12 2007 16:46 chocolat wrote: Well ask yourself is the doll motioning towards her left or right? If right, then its clockwise. If left, then its anti-clockwise. It is moving in a circular motion towards her right, hence it is a clockwise motion.
lol i feel you my friend. all of sudden it starts move in a circular motion to her left.
On October 12 2007 16:08 chocolat wrote: I think this is very inaccurate as I usually consider myself more logical than creative as I am more inclined into the scientific world rather than the artistic world.
I saw it CLOCKWISE at first also, as for science that is more tricky following the list: RIGHT BRAIN FUNCTIONS uses feeling "big picture" oriented imagination rules symbols and images present and future philosophy & religion can "get it" (i.e. meaning) believes appreciates spatial perception knows object function fantasy based presents possibilities impetuous risk taking
All of those are also important in science, Einstein said that imagination is very important. Other things like religion can be sub effect of useful work of right part of the brain. I think that understanding of science give me "spiritual" feeling. I can't be sure becouse in Church give me only impression, that religion is stupid, and no feelings attached to it at all. Can't say that symbols or images work on me at all, I am good at math also. I am definitely more interesting in general theory not in details that I only like when they are necessary to understand theory, and presented as part of it to make full picture.
if you wanna break it, watch where the foot that's sticking out intersects with the foot that's just sitting and isn't swiveling - it seems like your mind decides on which direction it's going by which way you initially think it crosses, so if you look at that swiveling foot as though it's a pendulum that never crosses behind the back of the leg/calf then you can decide which direction you want to see it going in and sit back to look at the big picture
You want to focus on her legs, as other's have said.
Notice one of her leg is the base, aka it does not move but only rotates. We will call this the base leg The other one spins around it in a circle, clockwise or counter-clockwise. Lets call this the swing leg
You see her turning one way, for the most of us it remains that way for a good deal. If you focus on her legs, you notice her swing leg repeatedly going behind the base leg and in front.
Start counting with your sequence. When the swing leg is in front, say front, and when it is behind the base, say back.
So now you should be counting: Front, Back, Front, Back, Front, Back.
Now only focusing on the legs, and do Front, Back, Front, Back, Front, FRONT, back, front, back
It will feel very unnatural for awhile, but just keep counting the front-back in reverse order and really try to believe/perceive the dancer's leg spinning in the same direction you are talking about.
Direction should change shortly if you really focus on counting it.
Oh yeah I'm right-brained, although I managed to get stuck on counter for a good while keke.
how I did it was to not focus on the image, stare at the corner of your monitor so you only see a big of the imagine with the corner of your eyes Then imagine it turning the opposite way, look at it, and BAM.
I saw it counter-clockwise first, and then was able to change it a few times. Pretty cool stuff. The description on counter-clockwise is also really accurate for me.
I think it's a trick picture... like she actually changes direction every 10 sec or so you're supposed to think your mind is goin crazy but she actually changes... wat a load of shit
On October 12 2007 17:28 prOxi.swAMi wrote: I think it's a trick picture... like she actually changes direction every 10 sec or so you're supposed to think your mind is goin crazy but she actually changes... wat a load of shit
lol... how can one change the direction at will then?
anti clockwise, cant see it moving clockwise, maybe I'll give it a try and focus on it
I'm left brained LOL O,o
Btw I've read something about if you are right handed you use more the left side of the brain and viceversa. I am mostly left-handed tho, but for example I use the mouse with my right hand ;O Plus I use the right leg on football (the one american guys call soccer) and I kinda suck with the left one lol
At first, it was counter-clockwise, and I thought the clockwise people were shittig everybody. But then I traced it with my finger superpositioning a clockwise movement, and now I see it clockwise and can't go back... W T F
On October 12 2007 17:37 HeadBangaa wrote: HOLY SHIT
At first, it was counter-clockwise, and I thought the clockwise people were shittig everybody. But then I traced it with my finger superpositioning a clockwise movement, and now I see it clockwise and can't go back... W T F
Actually, to "swicth", just pretend the front leg you see is actually the back leg AND the other leg (if you think the front leg is the left one, pretend it's the right and back one, then focus for a little while).
i saw it going counter clockwise at first, so i focused really hard and changed it, now i see it going clockwise... but i can't change it back? wtf is this?
I think it shows if you're right brained or left on the first time you see it. And i guess right and left doesn't mean stupid and smart. For example in korea high school is divided into two sections. One which is more focused on math and science and while the other is more focused on social studies and language 문과.(But theres others too like technology, music, art etc) It probably measures what you're better at.
You guys are focusing on one thing too much. Look at the whole image or just stare at the background/other aspects of the monitor. Then you will clearly see its clockwise. Looking at one aspect means that you are observing any glitches in the animation.
On October 12 2007 17:56 Last.Midnight wrote: I see her going clockwise and no matter how hard I try I can't even comprehend how anyone could ever imagine her spinning counter-clockwise.
Same for me dude, use the foot method...the shadow of the foot method.
On October 12 2007 17:56 Last.Midnight wrote: I see her going clockwise and no matter how hard I try I can't even comprehend how anyone could ever imagine her spinning counter-clockwise.
I'm sorry to dissapoint all of you but IT'S A FREAKING TRICK PICTURE. I opened two instances of it in the same page and you can see it changes direction after a certain pattern. The brain teaser is that you people actually came up with methods of making it change direction which WORK (according to you at least. Wow. )
But as far as fake brain teasers go, this is a REALLY good one.
P.S.: Simpler method to prove: Cover everything but her head. You'll realise it starts moving the other way with you just staring at it. No illusions there.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
(no I'm not. how could you think it's really that good of an illusion? )
On October 12 2007 17:58 CubEdIn wrote: I'm sorry to dissapoint all of you but IT'S A FREAKING TRICK PICTURE. I opened two instances of it in the same page and you can see it changes direction after a certain pattern. The brain teaser is that you people actually came up with methods of making it change direction which WORK (according to you at least. Wow. )
But as far as fake brain teasers go, this is a REALLY good one.
P.S.: Simpler method to prove: Cover everything but her head. You'll realise it starts moving the other way with you just staring at it. No illusions there.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
(no I'm not. how could you think it's really that good of an illusion? )
explain how i can see it turn either direction for as long as i please
explain how i can change it as rapid as once every 1.5 rotations
I took it apart with a gif disassambler just to make sure. It only returns one full rotation, and it's clockwise. So I don't know what to say. If you check angles and such it's really hard to immagine it's spinning any other way (from static pictures) I still think it's rigged, as you can see it change just by looking at it and not focusing on legs/other parts. Especially the head thinghie, that's just weird.
I noticed that when i tilt my head to the right (almost 90 degrees) i can see her counter clockwise perfectly! When i tilt to the right i can see her clockwise perfectly
Whats buzzy is when i tilt my head right watch the animation complete half a cycle then tilt left - what happens is it looks like the leg is oscillating back and forth - funky
On October 12 2007 17:58 CubEdIn wrote: I'm sorry to dissapoint all of you but IT'S A FREAKING TRICK PICTURE. I opened two instances of it in the same page and you can see it changes direction after a certain pattern. The brain teaser is that you people actually came up with methods of making it change direction which WORK (according to you at least. Wow. )
But as far as fake brain teasers go, this is a REALLY good one.
P.S.: Simpler method to prove: Cover everything but her head. You'll realise it starts moving the other way with you just staring at it. No illusions there.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
(no I'm not. how could you think it's really that good of an illusion? )
explain how i can see it turn either direction for as long as i please
explain how i can change it as rapid as once every 1.5 rotations
Can you change it once every 2 rotations 10 times in a row? Can you make it spin in the same direction for 30 seconds in a row? If so, then you got me. But I couldn't. I was trying to make it spin in the same direction and it still changed after 15-20 seconds.
On October 12 2007 18:04 CubEdIn wrote: I took it apart with a gif disassambler just to make sure. It only returns one full rotation, and it's clockwise. So I don't know what to say. If you check angles and such it's really hard to immagine it's spinning any other way (from static pictures) I still think it's rigged, as you can see it change just by looking at it and not focusing on legs/other parts. Especially the head thinghie, that's just weird.
Yeah. You can't see it turning counterclockwise when you disassemble it into gif frames.
So, you can't make the optical illusion work when you destroy it. Congratulations!
also, left- or right-brainedness doesnt matter at all in which way you see the rotation, since it can easily go both ways.
I could not however long i stared get the bitch to flip around with the methods people described. Until I clicked that link. I started to read some shit on the top and i saw her half rotate counter and I was like wtf, maybe if i keep reading shit (using my left brain) especially since I'm not fully focused on her it'll work. And eventually I kept reading the words over and over on the top and I saw her start spinning counter clockwise. Thats really weird.
Now someone draw some clothes on her so we can see WHOS RIGHT !@
edit- lmao I was just about to disassemble the gif and check that out, thanks.
On October 12 2007 17:58 CubEdIn wrote: I'm sorry to dissapoint all of you but IT'S A FREAKING TRICK PICTURE. I opened two instances of it in the same page and you can see it changes direction after a certain pattern. The brain teaser is that you people actually came up with methods of making it change direction which WORK (according to you at least. Wow. )
But as far as fake brain teasers go, this is a REALLY good one.
P.S.: Simpler method to prove: Cover everything but her head. You'll realise it starts moving the other way with you just staring at it. No illusions there.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
(no I'm not. how could you think it's really that good of an illusion? )
explain how i can see it turn either direction for as long as i please
explain how i can change it as rapid as once every 1.5 rotations
Can you change it once every 2 rotations 10 times in a row? Can you make it spin in the same direction for 30 seconds in a row? If so, then you got me. But I couldn't. I was trying to make it spin in the same direction and it still changed after 15-20 seconds.
Its a lot easier in durations of 1.5 rotations per direction, but yeah I can visually make it switch every 2. I can see it turn one way or the other for an endless amount of time.
I've been staring at this thing for about 10 minutes straight using every method that's been outlined and I can't comprehend how you can imagine her turning counter-clockwise. It hasn't been counter-clockwise or even doubtful in my mind even once.
On October 12 2007 17:58 CubEdIn wrote: I'm sorry to dissapoint all of you but IT'S A FREAKING TRICK PICTURE. I opened two instances of it in the same page and you can see it changes direction after a certain pattern. The brain teaser is that you people actually came up with methods of making it change direction which WORK (according to you at least. Wow. )
But as far as fake brain teasers go, this is a REALLY good one.
P.S.: Simpler method to prove: Cover everything but her head. You'll realise it starts moving the other way with you just staring at it. No illusions there.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
(no I'm not. how could you think it's really that good of an illusion? )
explain how i can see it turn either direction for as long as i please
explain how i can change it as rapid as once every 1.5 rotations
Can you change it once every 2 rotations 10 times in a row? Can you make it spin in the same direction for 30 seconds in a row? If so, then you got me. But I couldn't. I was trying to make it spin in the same direction and it still changed after 15-20 seconds.
Its a lot easier in durations of 1.5 rotations per direction, but yeah I can visually make it switch every 2. I can see it turn one way or the other for an endless amount of time.
On October 12 2007 18:11 Last.Midnight wrote: I've been staring at this thing for about 10 minutes straight using every method that's been outlined and I can't comprehend how you can imagine her turning counter-clockwise. It hasn't been counter-clockwise or even doubtful in my mind even once.
Try use that one...I find it's easier with the big shadow.
If I just stare at the shadow of the legs in that one...I don't even see it making a full rotation in either direction...just a strange undulating motion that stops at one side and comes back.
Midnight, look at the shadow of the tip of the foot (that is in front) in the newest link, and imagine it 'ping ponging' off two imaginary walls (albeit not a straight line) but then when it reaches the 'wall' on the right hand side, picture it continuing in a full circle...then look up to the image.
On October 12 2007 18:06 CubEdIn wrote: I was trying to make it spin in the same direction and it still changed after 15-20 seconds.
I stared at it for over 2 minutes trying to figure out how it works, but it never changed direction. I think the trick is that when it "faces" the viewer, with either the back or the front, it's the same image, so I tried to use those points to make it switch directions, imagining how it'd look if it went the other way... but every time it went into profile I could only see the direction one-way. Clockwise.
I've taken print screens of it moving clockwise and ccw trying to see if they match. I didn't get a perfect match yet but I can see it happening.
Also, I wasn't trying to DESTROY it, I was just trying to see if there are two different sets of pics. Don't be so cruel I'm just putting a little thought into it (my brain won't accept that it's being tricked by a .gif).
I see what you mean with the 1.5s but I can't (no matter what I do) see it turn one way for more than 15-20 secs. I should time it.
On October 12 2007 18:11 Last.Midnight wrote: I've been staring at this thing for about 10 minutes straight using every method that's been outlined and I can't comprehend how you can imagine her turning counter-clockwise. It hasn't been counter-clockwise or even doubtful in my mind even once.
Try use that one...I find it's easier with the big shadow.
If I just stare at the shadow of the legs in that one...I don't even see it making a full rotation in either direction...just a strange undulating motion that stops at one side and comes back.
Midnight, look at the shadow of the tip of the foot (that is in front) in the newest link, and imagine it 'ping ponging' off two imaginary walls (albeit not a straight line) but then when it reaches the 'wall' on the right hand side, picture it continuing in a full circle...then look up to the image.
Yea, I was just gonna say that. If you focus off of it (almsot like a seeing eye book) and just maybe even look at some shit off the side of you monitor you can see her leg just bouncing back and forth on the backside of the shadow (as it seems).
Steve I'll let it go, I can't figgure it out tehnically. But explain this: If the illusion is in the arms and legs, then how come if you cover everything up to the neck, and you only see her head, it still changes after a few rotations (i counted 25 or somewhere around there) without looking at ANY of the body parts.
If you look at the whole image you can clearly see its moving clockwise, thats where the trick lies. Left brainers just tend to focus on 1 or a few details and right brainers see the whole image and don't get tricked.
I think thats why its so much harder for right brainers to switch counter than it is for left brainers to clockwise.
Think of it this way, everything is symmetrical except her head.
PS- I think these kinds of tests can prove a lot about the general public. They tend to ignore the big picture and focus on a few things and ignore the rest. I'm willing to bet 90% or more of conspiracy theorists are seeing clockwise.
On October 12 2007 18:26 CharlieMurphy wrote: On a side note though.
If you look at the whole image you can clearly see its moving clockwise, thats where the trick lies. Left brainers just tend to focus on 1 or a few details and right brainers see the whole image and don't get tricked.
I think thats why its so much harder for right brainers to switch counter than it is for left brainers to clockwise.
Think of it this way, everything is symmetrical except her head.
wait how do you know it's clearly moving clockwise? your detail theory makes no sense to me... 3 out of 6 friends I sent it to initially said they see counter-clockwise ;o For them it's clearly moving counter clockwise.
On October 12 2007 18:26 CharlieMurphy wrote: PS- I think these kinds of tests can prove a lot about the general public. They tend to ignore the big picture and focus on a few things and ignore the rest. I'm willing to bet 90% or more of conspiracy theorists are seeing clockwise.
I saw it clockwise and I BET THIS DAMN PIC IS RIGGED. It's all a big hoax I tell you. NOTHING IS REAL. NOTHING!
Wow, i can switch between anti and clockwise pretty easily, just shift focus slightly and shes turn other way with the left leg out changed to right leg out, then back again.. its weird to be able to constantly change your perceiptions of it. definitely interesting.
On October 12 2007 18:26 CharlieMurphy wrote: On a side note though.
If you look at the whole image you can clearly see its moving clockwise, thats where the trick lies. Left brainers just tend to focus on 1 or a few details and right brainers see the whole image and don't get tricked.
I think thats why its so much harder for right brainers to switch counter than it is for left brainers to clockwise.
Think of it this way, everything is symmetrical except her head.
wait how do you know it's clearly moving clockwise? your detail theory makes no sense to me... 3 out of 6 friends I sent it to initially said they see counter-clockwise ;o For them it's clearly moving counter clockwise.
They initially see it wrong and stick with their brains perception. tell them to look at her face and pony tail as the center while watching it all and see what direction its going now.
Save the gif posted in the OP and it spins really slow frame rate and you see its clockwise.
You can also see 2 frames (or more?) where the image sorta skips. The most pronounced being when the base foot dips the lowest.
I'm not sure if this is relevant to this illusion but its kinda like how when a tire is going a certain speed (humans only see 24 frames/sec) that it looks like the tire is slowly going backwards because every 24th frame happens to be the position the tire was in previously.
Ok I looked at her 10 times with a break of looking away each time. I saw her moving clockwise 5 times, counter-clockwise 5 times. Each time I would see her moving in one direction, I'd try to force myself to perceive the opposite, but it seemed impossible. But then I'd look away and look back, and shed be moving in the opposite direction. Wonder what this means.
On October 12 2007 18:41 CharlieMurphy wrote: I'm not sure if this is relevant to this illusion but its kinda like how when a tire is going a certain speed (humans only see 24 frames/sec) that it looks like the tire is slowly going backwards because every 24th frame happens to be the position the tire was in previously.
that's exactly what I thought once I managed to see it clockwise
On October 12 2007 18:46 Gandalf wrote: Ok I looked at her 10 times with a break of looking away each time. I saw her moving clockwise 5 times, counter-clockwise 5 times. Each time I would see her moving in one direction, I'd try to force myself to perceive the opposite, but it seemed impossible. But then I'd look away and look back, and shed be moving in the opposite direction. Wonder what this means.
ya well some ppl CAN change the direction while looking at it
Ok, To everyone who is saying the pic is rigged. I originally thought this as well. However its just an optical illusion. Optical illusions are designed to screw with your perception, which this does.
Ive looked at this image for long enough now to choose whether I want her spinning clockwise or anticlockwise. The first time I viewed it, I saw it going anticlockwise for about 3 mins till I worked out how to reverse it. Then Ive spent 1 min preventing her from doing a full rotation. Its not possible that this gif is rigged because I can choose beforehand what I want to see and make it happen.
EDIT: oh and to chocolat, I can rotate the image while looking at the whole thing. I dont have to look at anwyhere specific at all anymore. Its not a glitch in the gif at all.
The tire illusion is usually seen in electric light - not during the day; this is because the alternating current of the light source makes it flicker, the resluting illuminated image has a 'frame illusion' where the tire is seen a little back from were it was last illuminated. It isn't seen in the day.
The silhouete illusion I can see both ways, but my mind prefers clockwise viewed from above. I think this is because the out stretched arm and leg will seem to travel slower as they rotate away from you (the object is spinning so as it passes you closer to you it must be going the same speed as when it passes you on the further side from you. however, perspective makes the 'outward' journey look smaller as it is further away, but it takes the same time, so as it rotates away from you it will seem to be going slower). to me, as the hand and leg pass from the left to the right they seem to be going slower, thus I say that is further away from me and the figure is rotating clockwise.
On October 12 2007 18:46 Gandalf wrote: Ok I looked at her 10 times with a break of looking away each time. I saw her moving clockwise 5 times, counter-clockwise 5 times. Each time I would see her moving in one direction, I'd try to force myself to perceive the opposite, but it seemed impossible. But then I'd look away and look back, and shed be moving in the opposite direction. Wonder what this means.
ya well some ppl CAN change the direction while looking at it
Yes I know and I'm not arguing that...
I'm saying I cant, but when I look away and look back, it often changes direction.
On October 12 2007 19:05 betaben wrote: The tire illusion is usually seen in electric light - not during the day; this is because the alternating current of the light source makes it flicker, the resluting illuminated image has a 'frame illusion' where the tire is seen a little back from were it was last illuminated. It isn't seen in the day.
The silhouete illusion I can see both ways, but my mind prefers clockwise viewed from above. I think this is because the out stretched arm and leg will seem to travel slower as they rotate away from you (the object is spinning so as it passes you closer to you it must be going the same speed as when it passes you on the further side from you. however, perspective makes the 'outward' journey look smaller as it is further away, but it takes the same time, so as it rotates away from you it will seem to be going slower). to me, as the hand and leg pass from the left to the right they seem to be going slower, thus I say that is further away from me and the figure is rotating clockwise.
just my opinion.
What? The only time I see the tire thing is in broad daylight on the road..
Wow this is the coolest picture in the world, took me about 15 minutes of looking at it before I could make it change direction, now I can do it at will.
As for how it works, no it is not 'clearly' spinning clockwise or anti clockwise, these terms don't even strictly make sense because you're viewing the picture perpendicular to the axis of rotation, but I guess people default to viewing something as clockwise when viewed from above (so that it's clockwise when the extended leg moves in front of the leg in the middle). All that's happening is that everything in the picture is moving in a circle, which is consistent both with the picture rotating clockwise or anti clockwise. We see the the picture moving and our brain decides that the best way to interpret the motion is a rotation, but there's two ways of doing this. If it goes clockwise, then when something moves slightly downward it's coming towards you, and vice versa. It's just a much more elaborate version of the Necker cube.
She has boobs and a leg sticking out which makes it turn clock wise obviously. I don't get it. I'm wondering if half the forum is retarded or I am missing something.
On October 12 2007 19:05 betaben wrote: The tire illusion is usually seen in electric light - not during the day; this is because the alternating current of the light source makes it flicker, the resluting illuminated image has a 'frame illusion' where the tire is seen a little back from were it was last illuminated. It isn't seen in the day.
The silhouete illusion I can see both ways, but my mind prefers clockwise viewed from above. I think this is because the out stretched arm and leg will seem to travel slower as they rotate away from you (the object is spinning so as it passes you closer to you it must be going the same speed as when it passes you on the further side from you. however, perspective makes the 'outward' journey look smaller as it is further away, but it takes the same time, so as it rotates away from you it will seem to be going slower). to me, as the hand and leg pass from the left to the right they seem to be going slower, thus I say that is further away from me and the figure is rotating clockwise.
just my opinion.
What? The only time I see the tire thing is in broad daylight on the road..
On October 12 2007 18:06 Plexa wrote: I noticed that when i tilt my head to the right (almost 90 degrees) i can see her counter clockwise perfectly! When i tilt to the right i can see her clockwise perfectly
Whats buzzy is when i tilt my head right watch the animation complete half a cycle then tilt left - what happens is it looks like the leg is oscillating back and forth - funky
This is a nice way for ppl who can't see it go both ways. Also try looking away from the pic at the coners of your monitor (ie look at the system clock or at the start menu) and only see the gif at the corner of your eye. You should be able to change its rotation as you wish.
You guys know that she changes directions when moving right? She could be going counter clockwise for about 10 seconds, and then she switches. Which side of the brain do you use if you see both?
It's random also, I've seen her start as counter or clockwise.
WHAT THE FUCK EVERY TIME I START LOOKING AT THIS ITS CLOCKWISE THEN AFTER less than 10 seconds of watching it starts going counterclockwise and i cant get it to stop
Holy shit it went back to counter clockwise right in front of my eyes, like the gif was rigg! Just focus on her breast for 10 secs or so and it'll change instantly. Likewise if you focus on her feet the pic changes back to clockwise.
Edit: It might not be her breast. It might be you have to stare at her hands or top section. I'm not exactly sure but I can switch it instantly. Strange cause when I first saw the pic it was counter clockwise, but now every time I see it clockwise and I have to make an effort to go get it to turn counter clockwise. Or the gif could be rig.
this is pretty amazing at first i saw it clockwise but now i can easily get it to go both ways. when she reaches the "apex" of turning to the side (at the point where she starts to spin back to the middle) just imagine she's reversing what she's doing and it'll magically switch
now i can get her to oscillate back and forth (0.5 rotations each way) although it takes a bit of concentration and to those saying it's fake: tell me how people looking at the same instance of the gif can perceive different rotations at the same time?
On October 12 2007 21:19 Rekrul wrote: WHAT THE FUCK EVERY TIME I START LOOKING AT THIS ITS CLOCKWISE THEN AFTER less than 10 seconds of watching it starts going counterclockwise and i cant get it to stop
same, honestly when i first saw it I saw counter clockwise, then I scrolled down to look at the question about which way it was goin gand came back up and it was clockwise, now i cant get it to go clockwise anymore when I think about it going counterclockwise
I honestly think that whole test is fake. For me it changes nonstop. if i just wait she will change the direction. The first i saw was counter clockwise , so i voted for that, but are you sure that it doesn't change randomly?
OMG ok i won't delete the above sentences, but they were wrong^^ I just downloaded it and could see it moving in the thread and at the same time in irfanview. And if one changed, the otherone did, too. So it seems as if it is not random.
Weird. So if she changes direction every few secs what does that mean for the people who get that? She kind of just changes directions every min or 30 sec for me, and now that I review it I don't think I am actively changing it, its just random...
now It is switching randomly, mostly counter-clockwise though and I don't have any control over it. when i was on the toilet I visualized her going both ways lol
On October 12 2007 16:14 Lycaeus wrote: That is trippy, normally if I'm focusing on the image, I see the object moving clockwise. However, if I choose to leave the image present and start working on anything else, i.e. using aim or such, in the corner of my eye, the object moves counter-clockwise. The hell does that mean?
lmfao yo dude, just look another angle but let the corner of your "left" eye catch the pic, its crazy its counter-clockwise. Now at the same time look at the picture normally while the girls mid spun, and she just like, pops back into clockwise, and then i laughed a cuple times so i posted it here.
Omg I saw her clockwise at first but then I tried to look below his foot and hiding everything but her legs and it started going the other way around.. however it quickly shifted back to clockwise..... pretty amazing...
Clockwise, and I've tried every trick posted here and I still can't see counter-clockwise. I'm a heavily visual thinker so I guess the test is right (I never think in words except when I'm imagining conversations).
edit: Woot, nevermind, I figured out how to do it! And I can do it whenever I want, so I can make so she's always "facing" me while swinging her feet from one side to the other.
While she's going counter-clockwise; when her leg gets to the right side I half-focus on her standing ankle and half-focus on the bottom letters and it starts going clockwise.
While she's going clockwise; I keep focusing on her ankle/bellow her, then when her leg gets to the left side I shift my focus to just a little above her head and she starts going counter-clockwise.
Then just keep repeating.
The trick is to shift your focus at the right time.
whatever leg i decide is the one spinning in a wider circle (left or right) determines what way she turns.
if i decide it's the left, she spins counterclockwise, if i decide it's the right - well, you get the picture.
same goes for her arms.
the image itself is an illusion intended to trick you. it should not be "left or right half of the brain depending on direction. the only way to prove you can use your left half is by making her spin either way at will.
this is interesting, i figured out why both clockwise and counter-clockwise.
when i first looked at it, after some thoughts i decided it was counter-clockwise. reason is usually a clock is hang up high, so the top of the clock is further away - comparing to the dancer, when she is facing me with her back, her spinning left foot at the front is further away towards the front of our vision comparable to 12oclock. Hence the counter-clockwise.
but if i stare at her feet in the picture directly, its apparent that the picture is viewing from below the horizon, the vector joining her stationary right foot and spinning left foot draw a closewise circle.
So this is a test to show if you use reason to draw the conclusion (i.e. having the stationary right foot as the center of the clock, the spinning left foot while her back faces you as 12 oclock) or you see the clock flat on the picture viewing from below horizonal.
there is a reason the body is all in black, i can still imagine myself in the 3d motion - the left foot spinning from my own 3->12->9->6->3 oclock (hence counter-clockwise as leftbrained - reason over emotion) instead of viewing it directly without a concept of 3d space.
Ok guys, explain this to me. Really. Those who defend the autenticity of this "test" - tell me i'm wrong but don't ignore this because i can't see how this works for you:
^ How can anyone claim that if by saying she spins counterclockwise (right picture) her right foot is displayed correctly?
On October 12 2007 23:47 Thrill wrote: Ok guys, explain this to me. Really. Those who defend the autenticity of this "test" - tell me i'm wrong but don't ignore this because i can't see how this works for you:
^ How can anyone claim that if by saying she spins counterclockwise (right picture) her right foot is displayed correctly?
Depending on wether we see her from behind or front I guess?
On October 12 2007 23:47 Thrill wrote: Ok guys, explain this to me. Really. Those who defend the autenticity of this "test" - tell me i'm wrong but don't ignore this because i can't see how this works for you:
^ How can anyone claim that if by saying she spins counterclockwise (right picture) her right foot is displayed correctly?
Depending on wether we see her from behind or front I guess?
well, her foot is bent up at kind of weird angle....so I guess its plausible
I don't understand how anyone can see counter-clockwise. After staring for a while my immediate thought that she was definitely turning clockwise didn't change. I really don't even understand how anyone could see otherwise.
It's weird too. I think of myself as a straight-up non-artistic logical school kid, but I just can't see in what universe that gif could be turning counter-clockwise.
Just focus on her standing foot and when it turns side ways think that it's going to go in the opposite direction that it was going before. You can do the same thing for the whole body too when you get used to it.
For those of you clockwise folk who are stuck seeing her spin that way eternally, try to focus just on the shadow of her foot. Try to imagine it going counter clockwise. After you get it so the shadow is moving counter clockwise, move to her foot that is on the ground and try to get it to go counter clockwise. Once that is done if you blur your vision and focus on her lower body movements you should see her move counterclockwise for a bit!
Okay, after like an hour I managed to get her to spin counter-clockwise for about two seconds and then straight back to clockwise. This is getting intriguing...
I put a side by side gif and while both image start syncing together in terms of which direction they turn to. But every few sec they are not in sync one is counter clockwise and the other is clockwise but it only last for like 5 seconds than they start syncing back to the dominant position. At least for me.
When I first opened the thread she was spinning clockwise. I read the information then hit refresh on my browser and she was spinning counter-clockwise. It's a TRAP!
She is not only spinning she is also bouncing up and down. Look at her heel. Plain stupid picture. Is the toe of her extended leg going in an elips or just in a line is what I would like to know. Will have to look at individual frames for that. I doubt this says anything about being right ot leftbrained.
I saw the nunny first and the duck a split second later.
Basically I see it go clockwise to the middle and then it resets and goes counter-clockwise back to the middle. It then just repeats this oscillating patern.
Yarrrggggh, my brain hurts. I don't see it do a full rotation in ANY direction.
edit: I remember when I was a kid I used to see those movie poster marquee flashing lights and concentrate on making the direction the lights appeared to move change. Maybe that's why I can't really see full rotation in either direction =[
I can only turn the direction by blinking really fast and not focusing to determine where shes going, then every few spins she goes the other way. but its mostly counter clock-wise if i look at it normally or focused
Im still not convinced it isnt a hoax. I stared at it and it changed direction on me like every 20 seconds or so, without me changing focus or doing anything at all. I just keep staring and it goes back and forth. Not just changing direction once, but again and again.
Hehe, that's one intresting picture. I couldn't for the sake of my life figure out how to make her spinn counter-clockwise but after having read the comments I managed with alittle concentration. But moment I let go of my focus she starts spinning clockwise again.
the mistake people are making is that the picture isn't 3d, its 2d. Hence at each point, her back could be to you, or her face could be to you. Once you see that, you can make it turn any way you want.
at first i saw her counter-clockwise and then i blinked a couple times and now shes clockwise and then i blinked again and shes counter >.> Can there be a both option?
i found an easy way to change from clock to counter wise
[SPOILER] look at the shadow of her feet, it doesnt go in a circle it goes like a pendulum. Once you get the motion of the shadow you can change the direction of her body :D[SPOILER]
It's fun changing her back and forth without looking away. I bet it's good exercise for the brain too. If you want to change you have to really try, you can almost feel it in your head when you make the change. At least it seems that way for me.
Maybe for some people it's easier to make it change and it does it on its own, I seem to have to try harder to do it.
I saw counter-clockwise first, but I can see her turn both ways. Try this: Just look at her left foot and imagine it being a clock. Now think of it clockwise and look at her whole body (I love the fact that this "scientifical test" uses a naked woman ^^), she will be turning clockwise to you. Now do it the other way round and you see her turning counter-clockwise. Funny image
Consider a silhouette made by parallel beams of light on a flat screen, of the dancer turning clockwise (as imagined from above), turning to her right. The parts of her body on the right side of the image will be moving toward you, and the parts of her body on the left side will be moving away.
Now consider the silhouette of the same dancer performing the same action, but with the light source and flat screen rotated 180 degrees, a perfect half-turn, around the dancer. She is still turning to her right, still clockwise as imagined from above. The parts of her body on the right side of the image will still be moving toward you, and the parts on the left will still be moving away.
This silhouette will be flipped left-to-right compared to the first one, but otherwise identical.
Now imagine you are watching the dancer through a mirror, not a silhouette but directly seeing her. She would look the same as a dancer turning to her left. The parts of her body on the right side of the image would be moving away from you, while those on the left would be moving toward you.
Now imagine watching the original silhouette through a mirror. The direction of her rotation should be reversed by the mirror, but the mirrored silhouette is identical to the silhouette from the opposite side. Although one image is derived from the dancer facing you then turning to her left, while the other image is derived from her facing away then turning to her right, they are identical.
Since, a parallel-light silhouette does not allow you to distinguish between a mirrored image or an opposite-side silhouette, you can't determine which side you're watching from unless there is a known asymmetry. For instance, if her left hand was a lobster claw and you knew it, when her breasts faced right, you could judge that the lobster claw was behind her and determine the direction of her spin from that. If the lobster claw appears next to the right (following the breasts), she is turning to her right, if it appears next on the left, she is turning to her left (preceding the breasts).
For a perspective view rather than a parallel-light silhouette, the parts of her body will change size as they move closer or farther. If her hand grows, you know it is moving toward you. If her foot shrinks, it is moving away. This would also be a way to judge the direction she is turning.
I believe that there is a perspective cue in this image. Notice that the image is being moved up and down so that her lifted leg appears to be holding at the same height. I think her lifted leg appears longer when it is closer, so the toes are lower, and the body (most noticably the supporting foot) is raised to hide this and confuse the eye.
So when the feet are closest together vertically, the lifted leg appears longer, is closest to the camera, and is therefore in front. While when they are farthest apart vertically, the lifted leg appears shorter, is farthest from the camera, and is therefore in back.
By this reasoning, she is turning to her right, or clockwise from above.
I think this is only a perspective view rotation which has been altered to seem more like a parallel-light silhouette, and if you see her turning to her left, you're missing visual cues that conflict with this interpretation. But I'm not terribly certain.
There sure are a lot of "methods" to try to get her to turn. None of them work at all for me. When she turns, or changes her direction, its random no effort on my part. I can't get her to change at will.
same, honestly when i first saw it I saw counter clockwise, then I scrolled down to look at the question about which way it was goin gand came back up and it was clockwise, now i cant get it to go clockwise anymore when I think about it going counterclockwise
i have same exact problem except i saw it clockwise first, then counterclockwise
started off lockwise for me then I tried what some said about staring at the feet/shadow.. didn't work till I *blinked* BAM shes going counter-clockwise. I look up to her body.. still going counter-wise until.. *blinks* clockwise again!
This thing is creeping me out...the first time I looked at this, the girl was rotating counter-clockwise. Now it's clockwise. 10 minutes later I check it out again and it's going counter-clockwise.
i cant see how that could possibly look clockwise even if i distract myself and just see it blurry in the background or whatever, still clearly counter clockwise.
On October 13 2007 04:27 IdrA wrote: i cant see how that could possibly look clockwise even if i distract myself and just see it blurry in the background or whatever, still clearly counter clockwise.
just focus on the foot shadow, its a lot easier to make the foot shadow look clockwise
once u can do that its just a matter of time before u can make the shadow match the foot and the rest will be clockwise
It does change, but i think its just an optical illusion and has nothing to do with brainsides. If you focus and unfocus on it several times you will probably see it going the other way.
Even from top it can rotate clock and anticlockwise. The problem because seh is flatshaded you cannot recognize which is her left and her right leg. If you project an object and its mirror image to a plane they are indestinguishable. When she is standing on her left leg she rotates clockwise, when standing on the right leg, CCW. But IMO that has nothing to do with brainsides.
On October 13 2007 05:09 MasterOfChaos wrote: Even from top it can rotate clock and anticlockwise. The problem because seh is flatshaded you cannot recognize which is her left and her right leg. If you project an object and its mirror image to a plane they are indestinguishable. When she is standing on her left leg she rotates clockwise, when standing on the right leg, CCW. But IMO that has nothing to do with brainsides.
Yeah it does not. But what you see initially supposedly does have something to do with it. Your brain chooses one and you see that most of the time. Although most ppl are able to switch between the 2 but one comes more naturaly. That should be the more dominant brain side. Supposedly.
And I'm making the slideshow of the gif frames go back and forth at verying speeds. It makes it really clear why it works and its much easier to understand. Its actually pretty cool and more fun to look at this way. Its Lol because you'll advance from frame 1-34 then back again and its the same direction spinning the whole time.
I have a feeling that 34 frames is some magic number for optical illusions like this. Also there are a couple frames in there that sorta skip which probably further confuse your brain in there. I'm gonna break it all down frame by frame and post it up.
On October 13 2007 05:33 Yuljan wrote: Everytime I open this thread I see it counter clock wise and after opening the spoiler I see it clockwise im confused.
thats weird since reading should stimulate the left brain, which would make it appear counter clockwise i think
Ok.. am I retarded?.. I just had a fight with the guy who linked with me because I was trying to explain.. "if you look at the image from the TOP of her HEAD the image is rotating COUNTCLOCKWISE"
"if you look at the image from the BOTTOM of her FOOT the image is rotating CLOCKWISE"
In order to use the word spin you must have an axis.. for me the axis is from the bottom of her foot(the one that is moving LESS) to the top of her head (this is the most reliable axis you can take... by that I mean this is the axis where her spinning is the most concentrated) There is no wrong answer this way.. anyone who said its obvious which way she is spinning is fucking stupid.
On October 13 2007 06:01 TheWinter wrote: Ok.. am I retarded?.. I just had a fight with the guy who linked with me because I was trying to explain.. "if you look at the image from the TOP of her HEAD the image is rotating COUNTCLOCKWISE"
"if you look at the image from the BOTTOM of her FOOT the image is rotating CLOCKWISE"
In order to use the word spin you must have an axis.. for me the axis is from the bottom of her foot(the one that is moving LESS) to the top of her head (this is the most reliable axis you can take... by that I mean this is the axis where her spinning is the most concentrated) There is no wrong answer this way.. anyone who said its obvious which way she is spinning is fucking stupid.
It has a lot to do with 'insufficient data' to the brain. See the pics I posted above. You can't see her elbow or whatever and your brain goes "Oh it must be behind" or "Oh it must be in front" and makes everything else match up the same way.
On October 13 2007 03:09 Funchucks wrote: Consider a silhouette made by parallel beams of light on a flat screen, of the dancer turning clockwise (as imagined from above), turning to her right. The parts of her body on the right side of the image will be moving toward you, and the parts of her body on the left side will be moving away.
Now consider the silhouette of the same dancer performing the same action, but with the light source and flat screen rotated 180 degrees, a perfect half-turn, around the dancer. She is still turning to her right, still clockwise as imagined from above. The parts of her body on the right side of the image will still be moving toward you, and the parts on the left will still be moving away.
This silhouette will be flipped left-to-right compared to the first one, but otherwise identical.
Now imagine you are watching the dancer through a mirror, not a silhouette but directly seeing her. She would look the same as a dancer turning to her left. The parts of her body on the right side of the image would be moving away from you, while those on the left would be moving toward you.
Now imagine watching the original silhouette through a mirror. The direction of her rotation should be reversed by the mirror, but the mirrored silhouette is identical to the silhouette from the opposite side. Although one image is derived from the dancer facing you then turning to her left, while the other image is derived from her facing away then turning to her right, they are identical.
Since, a parallel-light silhouette does not allow you to distinguish between a mirrored image or an opposite-side silhouette, you can't determine which side you're watching from unless there is a known asymmetry. For instance, if her left hand was a lobster claw and you knew it, when her breasts faced right, you could judge that the lobster claw was behind her and determine the direction of her spin from that. If the lobster claw appears next to the right (following the breasts), she is turning to her right, if it appears next on the left, she is turning to her left (preceding the breasts).
For a perspective view rather than a parallel-light silhouette, the parts of her body will change size as they move closer or farther. If her hand grows, you know it is moving toward you. If her foot shrinks, it is moving away. This would also be a way to judge the direction she is turning.
I believe that there is a perspective cue in this image. Notice that the image is being moved up and down so that her lifted leg appears to be holding at the same height. I think her lifted leg appears longer when it is closer, so the toes are lower, and the body (most noticably the supporting foot) is raised to hide this and confuse the eye.
So when the feet are closest together vertically, the lifted leg appears longer, is closest to the camera, and is therefore in front. While when they are farthest apart vertically, the lifted leg appears shorter, is farthest from the camera, and is therefore in back.
By this reasoning, she is turning to her right, or clockwise from above.
I think this is only a perspective view rotation which has been altered to seem more like a parallel-light silhouette, and if you see her turning to her left, you're missing visual cues that conflict with this interpretation. But I'm not terribly certain.
Any counterarguments?
what I said earlier about the effects of speed. I think the difference in size with the perspective is too hard to make out, but differences in lateral speed across the picture caused by perspective is much easier
On October 13 2007 06:01 TheWinter wrote: Ok.. am I retarded?.. I just had a fight with the guy who linked with me because I was trying to explain.. "if you look at the image from the TOP of her HEAD the image is rotating COUNTCLOCKWISE"
"if you look at the image from the BOTTOM of her FOOT the image is rotating CLOCKWISE"
In order to use the word spin you must have an axis.. for me the axis is from the bottom of her foot(the one that is moving LESS) to the top of her head (this is the most reliable axis you can take... by that I mean this is the axis where her spinning is the most concentrated) There is no wrong answer this way.. anyone who said its obvious which way she is spinning is fucking stupid.
It has a lot to do with 'insufficient data' to the brain. See the pics I posted above. You can't see her elbow or whatever and your brain goes "Oh it must be behind" or "Oh it must be in front" and makes everything else match up the same way.
Can I get a response from someone other then charliemurphy (the tl netter not the comedian that guy is fucking hilarious)
When I first saw it I could only see it counter-clockwise. Then after I looked at it again I could only see it clockwise. Then both.
It's very simple. When the lower foot is facing to the right (3 o'clock) imagine it is continuing its path by then going to 12 o'clock (counter-clockwise) INSTEAD of then going to 6 o'clock (clockwise).
On October 13 2007 06:01 TheWinter wrote: Ok.. am I retarded?.. I just had a fight with the guy who linked with me because I was trying to explain.. "if you look at the image from the TOP of her HEAD the image is rotating COUNTCLOCKWISE"
"if you look at the image from the BOTTOM of her FOOT the image is rotating CLOCKWISE"
In order to use the word spin you must have an axis.. for me the axis is from the bottom of her foot(the one that is moving LESS) to the top of her head (this is the most reliable axis you can take... by that I mean this is the axis where her spinning is the most concentrated) There is no wrong answer this way.. anyone who said its obvious which way she is spinning is fucking stupid.
It has a lot to do with 'insufficient data' to the brain. See the pics I posted above. You can't see her elbow or whatever and your brain goes "Oh it must be behind" or "Oh it must be in front" and makes everything else match up the same way.
Can I get a response from someone other then charliemurphy (the tl netter not the comedian that guy is fucking hilarious)
I think most people are thinking of viewing from above.
On October 13 2007 06:01 TheWinter wrote: Ok.. am I retarded?.. I just had a fight with the guy who linked with me because I was trying to explain.. "if you look at the image from the TOP of her HEAD the image is rotating COUNTCLOCKWISE"
"if you look at the image from the BOTTOM of her FOOT the image is rotating CLOCKWISE"
In order to use the word spin you must have an axis.. for me the axis is from the bottom of her foot(the one that is moving LESS) to the top of her head (this is the most reliable axis you can take... by that I mean this is the axis where her spinning is the most concentrated) There is no wrong answer this way.. anyone who said its obvious which way she is spinning is fucking stupid.
It has a lot to do with 'insufficient data' to the brain. See the pics I posted above. You can't see her elbow or whatever and your brain goes "Oh it must be behind" or "Oh it must be in front" and makes everything else match up the same way.
Can I get a response from someone other then charliemurphy (the tl netter not the comedian that guy is fucking hilarious)
I think most people are thinking of viewing from above.
If that were true then everyone would see it as counterclockwise....
On October 13 2007 06:57 red.venom wrote: I cant think of it spinning any way but counter-clockwise..
maybe my heads playing tricks on my but if i stare at it for like 1 minute its going counter-clockwise, but then if i read some posts down in the topic and look back its switched
On October 13 2007 06:01 TheWinter wrote: Ok.. am I retarded?.. I just had a fight with the guy who linked with me because I was trying to explain.. "if you look at the image from the TOP of her HEAD the image is rotating COUNTCLOCKWISE"
"if you look at the image from the BOTTOM of her FOOT the image is rotating CLOCKWISE"
In order to use the word spin you must have an axis.. for me the axis is from the bottom of her foot(the one that is moving LESS) to the top of her head (this is the most reliable axis you can take... by that I mean this is the axis where her spinning is the most concentrated) There is no wrong answer this way.. anyone who said its obvious which way she is spinning is fucking stupid.
It has a lot to do with 'insufficient data' to the brain. See the pics I posted above. You can't see her elbow or whatever and your brain goes "Oh it must be behind" or "Oh it must be in front" and makes everything else match up the same way.
Can I get a response from someone other then charliemurphy (the tl netter not the comedian that guy is fucking hilarious)
you are fucking stupid. Charlie has it. It only works because each frame can be interpreted as her front or her back. Once your brain finds a "solution" to the silhouette, it will cling to it and make everything fit into that scheme.
On October 13 2007 06:01 TheWinter wrote: Ok.. am I retarded?.. I just had a fight with the guy who linked with me because I was trying to explain.. "if you look at the image from the TOP of her HEAD the image is rotating COUNTCLOCKWISE"
"if you look at the image from the BOTTOM of her FOOT the image is rotating CLOCKWISE"
In order to use the word spin you must have an axis.. for me the axis is from the bottom of her foot(the one that is moving LESS) to the top of her head (this is the most reliable axis you can take... by that I mean this is the axis where her spinning is the most concentrated) There is no wrong answer this way.. anyone who said its obvious which way she is spinning is fucking stupid.
It has a lot to do with 'insufficient data' to the brain. See the pics I posted above. You can't see her elbow or whatever and your brain goes "Oh it must be behind" or "Oh it must be in front" and makes everything else match up the same way.
Can I get a response from someone other then charliemurphy (the tl netter not the comedian that guy is fucking hilarious)
I think most people are thinking of viewing from above.
If that were true then everyone would see it as counterclockwise....
only if when they said clockwise they were thinking from below. There's obviously some confusion that needs to be cleared up if you were thinking that everyone was viewing from below and I was thinking the opposite. we'd need to come to some agreement about how to view it or state "clockwise from above" or "clockwise from below". seems at the moment, there's a chance people might all be agreeing with each other about the rotation, just not the viewing position.
A parallel light silhouette taken from one side is an exact mirror image of the same type of image taken from the opposite side.
It is a mathematical fact that if you don't know the chirality of the object (i.e. which hand is the left and which the right) independently of the image itself, you can't know which side you're viewing it from or which way it is turning.
However, I believe (without being certain) that this image is not a parallel light silhouette, that it was based on a perspective image, and that it does reveal that the dancer is turning to her right.
Note: I did not read the thread so excuse me if this was already mentioned
first of all, this is really cool
second, i was having a lot of trouble getting it to go back and forth, but i figured out a way to get it to change on my own accord.
If you right click-> view image then there is a picture of the image next to the URL that is much smaller. For some reason i can simply look at that image and decide which way its spinning, then just glancing down at the big picture will change it as well.
yes, "turning to her right" or "turning to her left" is a better way of putting it. Viewed from above, clockwise=="turning to her right". either way, I agree with funchucks in that it is a real 3d image which has been flattened and there is a definite answer. I agree that she's turning to her right.
I think I have been starring at it for 20 minutes trying to figure out what creates the illusion.
My conclusion is that it is like Charlie Chaplin's mask:
Now although my first impulse was to see it ClockWise, I can see it both ways. However, once Im convinced it is rotating in one given direction, its almost impossible to switch to the other without looking away from the picture.
There are two ways I can change rotation: Using the peripheral vision, and tricking my brain into thinking its rotating into a determined direction before I look at the picture in full focus. Or I can just cover the whole picture, except her pivoting foot. Now I try not to make any inferences about her foot (ie: if its a right or left foot), and I imagine its facing away from me, turning clockwise as it goes up, or counterclockwise as it goes down, as it was saying now. From there i can choose an inference and start the rotation on whichever way I want.
Curious thing when she is rotating Clockwise, she is using her left leg for support. When she is rotating Counter Clockwise she is using her right leg to pivot. Very interesting indeed. =)
This is weird, i see both (not simultaneously). One moment I was staring at it and I was like, duh it's counter clockwise, how many way can an animated picture spin? Then I read some of the comments, then looked again and holy shit, I saw it going clock-wise. Weird!
Yeah this is freaky I was trying so hard to look how it could be going counterclockwise, then stared like a meter above my screen and suddenly saw a shift in the movement
Haha that is SO cool :D I saw counterclockwise at first but now I can switch between them. They way I force a switch is to think about whether or not her outstretched arm is in front of her or behind her.
For clockwise: When her arm moves from the right to the left of the image, her arm is in front of her (ie pointing towards you as it rotates across). When her arm moves from the right to left of the image, her arm is behind her.
For counterclockwise: When her arm moves from the right to the left of the image, her arm is behind her (pointing away from you as it does a semi cricle), and vice versa with left to right.
Now pick what you want, and just imagine in your mind her arm being in front or behind her at the right time while staring at her. After a couple of rotations I can usually get it to flip.
Finally got it to spin the way I wanted. The key for me is to take the left or right side of the picture as the starting reference. Start by staring at one half first, then start spinning. Then you realize it can work both ways.
I think the fact that we've all been staring at her for a cumulative total of about 30 hours...there is a fair amount of unresolved sexual tension there.
An easier method @ least for me is to before you want it to go CCW or CW, is to first imagine it in your head. When you open your eyes, it will be what you imagined.
On October 13 2007 05:30 CharlieMurphy wrote: Here let me break down the first 4 frames and you can see how it works exactly.
Quoting myself - I don't think people are understanding that these first 4 frames are the EXACT SAME IMAGE (from side to side). One is from clockwise perspective and the other is counter.
wow this thing is kinda strange i look at it and its going counter clockwise counter clockwise... then i see it going clockwise clockwise, then i see it going counterclockwise!!!
It all depends on how you view it really. If you look at the limbs you'll see it moving clock-wise. If you look at in the back area you'll see it moving counter clock-wise.
This one made me suspicious at first. I tried so hard to get her to go counter-clockwise! It's actually quite simple. If you want her to spin the other direction, nomatter what direction you initially see, just STARE at her stationary foot. Watch as is spins, and you'll notice that it looks like it could be going either way. Then just tell your brain that it's going the direction you want it to, after a second or so, you'll see it. Rinse and repeat.
On October 14 2007 09:14 teh leet newb wrote: I think the .gif is rigged and it actually just changes by itself.
Lol wtf how can you think that when there's been so many explanations of why it can seem to rotate either way? Unless you were being sarcastic or something. I can get her to keep switching every 3 rotations or so now, willingly. The easiest way I've found so far is to simply imagine you're holding on to her outstretched arm and just force it whatever way you want her to rotate, and she changes.
On October 14 2007 09:14 teh leet newb wrote: I think the .gif is rigged and it actually just changes by itself.
it is.
i think this thread contains far more evidence pertaining to the fact that it's a trick of how the mind percieves rotating objects than to "the gif is rigged gg"
this is really weird at first i was only seeing her going counter-clockwise and thought the rest of you must have been joking around or something. i could not see how she would be going clockwise... then i looked at her feet and then when i looked at her whole body again she was going clockwise and now i can't get her to go anti-clockwise again... edit: ok i covered half the pic as suggested and now she's going anti-clockwise again lol crazy gif
woah.... i thought she was going clockwise, then i read the answer, and looked at the picture again and i could swear it switched to turn the other way. anticlockwise. wow. Is that cause i am stronger on the right side, but when i switch to reading words.... my left brain kicks up so I see it anticlockwise instead?
hehe... if this isn't a trick, it's kinda fun. I concentrate on my right side of the brain, and it turns clockwise, then i switch to left side mode and it turns anticlockwise. fun! but takes a while though, so not sure if it's real.
On October 14 2007 23:55 alias wrote: hehe... if this isn't a trick, it's kinda fun. I concentrate on my right side of the brain, and it turns clockwise, then i switch to left side mode and it turns anticlockwise. fun! but takes a while though, so not sure if it's real.
you are my hero, you can concentrate on thr right side of your brain...lol
On October 14 2007 23:59 Element)LoGiC wrote: The gif is rigged. If you think otherwise, it doesn't matter which way you see her turning, as both sides of your brain are devoid of activity.
Open up the gif in a gif editor then and point out how it is rigged. I did and as far as I can tell it isn't rigged in the least.
I don't see what this has to do with left or right side of the brain, but I see it both ways pretty easily (I can't switch quickly once I start seeing it spin, but I get a relatively random result every time I open it, or take my focus away from it EX: I opened the news site it was spinning counter clock wise, I read the article and part way through I looked back at the image and it was going clock wise).
CW...
I don't see how it's possible to see other way around, but apparently other people do -_-;;
Try reopening the image later, and maybe even staring at one side (either left or right, depending on which way you saw it spinning first).
EDIT: At first I was getting her spinning anti clockwise a couple times in a row, and now I'm getting her spinning clockwise a bunch of times in a row. I guess I've engaged the right side of my brain for the moment?
EDIT2: Oop, back to counter-clockwise as soon as I tried to logic a way to make it spin the way I wanted (by not looking at the picture and imagining her spinning one way). But now I can't go back. Maybe it does have some merit about what side of the brain is dominant (even if for some people that switches about a lot).
Someone who only sees it spinning counter-clockwise try drawing a picture or something creative, and then right after look at the picture and tell us if you see it going clockwise.
The gif is rigged. If you think otherwise, it doesn't matter which way you see her turning, as both sides of your brain are devoid of activity.
Spoilered cause it's pretty much a retarded argument to have but if that were true "logic," then when the first time I saw the image and I tried holding the x in the corner of my window to make it stop, and then releasing it to make it start again, it wouldn't have changed direction at the exact moment I released it (or at least, for the number of times I did it, that's insanely unlikely). Edit: Oop, nevermind. Charlie already proved it beyond a doubt that it isn't fixed (very nice post btw). Logic is just a legit retard.
Actually, now I'm pretty much convinced it has nothing to do with right/left sides of the brain, because if I look at it from my peripheral vision up and to the left, it goes clockwise, if I look from down and to the right, it goes counter-clock wise, and I can switch back and forth in under 5 seconds. EDIT: Infact, it doesn't even matter which way I look. I can make it go both ways.
It's quite fun when your two people watching the same gif and it's going in different directions. Really cool picture either way. Are there more of the same?
On October 14 2007 23:55 alias wrote: hehe... if this isn't a trick, it's kinda fun. I concentrate on my right side of the brain, and it turns clockwise, then i switch to left side mode and it turns anticlockwise. fun! but takes a while though, so not sure if it's real.
Some people never cease to amaze me.
The original has already been linked, and in it, it states cearly this is merely an optical illusion like so many others, it has NOTHING whatsoever to do with what part of your brain you use more. Especially that they have cut the original image where the shadow clearly helps in switching directions.
But the "logical" "explanations" some people seem to find are absolutely spectacular.
Here's an other one for you:
Original (the colours in the places A and B are of exactly the same shade of gray):
On October 15 2007 05:54 Mynock wrote: The original has already been linked, and in it, it states cearly this is merely an optical illusion like so many others, it has NOTHING whatsoever to do with what part of your brain you use more. ]
i don't think the article has ever tried to pretend it's anything but an optical illusion.
people are still going to see either a clockwise or counter clockwise spin relative to whether they're left or right-brain oriented. it's how we interpret the optical illusion that becomes the test.
On October 14 2007 23:59 Element)LoGiC wrote: The gif is rigged. If you think otherwise, it doesn't matter which way you see her turning, as both sides of your brain are devoid of activity.
On October 14 2007 09:14 teh leet newb wrote: I think the .gif is rigged and it actually just changes by itself.
it is.
i think this thread contains far more evidence pertaining to the fact that it's a trick of how the mind percieves rotating objects than to "the gif is rigged gg"
Years ago I read somewhere that the brain interprets and predicts motion from limited frames from the eyes. This may be a case demonstrating exaclty that. It is rather hard to switch directions when looking that the gif as a whole, because before you realize the brain is already 'believing' and mapping our the direction of rotation and rationalize everything else.
Thus, it makes me shudder to think, in other applications, some people may believe strongly even when they are wrong.
This thing is stupid I am very logical in my thinking and concrete. A definite left brainer. Math and science are the only subjects i am interested in and achieve above and beyond in and I see it as clockwise. Why? The way the arms and the legs are shaped shows her momentum is going in the clockwise direction. If you have ever seen any kind of turn in by a human being you'd know it would look silly making that form going counter clockwise. Also look at the shadow on the bottom. When it is in front it moves from right to left. from 5 to 7 o'clock positions.
either way i don't buy the left and right brain thing. I am 100% sure i am not a right brain and I've taken many tests on it. All of which said I was left.
On October 15 2007 07:18 potchip wrote: Thus, it makes me shudder to think, in other applications, some people may believe strongly even when they are wrong.
yeah it's scary to realize how the brain can be manipulated so easily and it's so hard to override it once it's tricked. damn brain :/
On October 15 2007 07:25 d0da wrote: This thing is stupid I am very logical in my thinking and concrete. A definite left brainer. Math and science are the only subjects i am interested in and achieve above and beyond in and I see it as clockwise. Why? The way the arms and the legs are shaped shows her momentum is going in the clockwise direction. If you have ever seen any kind of turn in by a human being you'd know it would look silly making that form going counter clockwise. Also look at the shadow on the bottom. When it is in front it moves from right to left. from 5 to 7 o'clock positions.
either way i don't buy the left and right brain thing. I am 100% sure i am not a right brain and I've taken many tests on it. All of which said I was left.
Well, her arm has nothing to do with it, since the direction of the arm also changes when she changes the motion and it is all very natural again (if you succeed once in seeing her going otherwise you'll see what I mean). It's a lot easier to describe the switch as just a decision to see her from top or from bottom.
However, everything else you've said is correct and applies to me as well. I see her predominantly as clockwise, yet I am a definite left-brainer. Same goes for most of my friends who I know are left-brainers according to all the other tests as well. (Not to mention the TL ratio would then be more than 2:1 in favour of the right-brainers, when we all it can't be any further from the truth on an all-geek, all-nerd computer gaming website).
So the problem is not what kind of judgment you can pass about your brain according to this image, but rather that you can't pass any at all.
The illusion itself is fun and all still. Just no need to make up a story to all of this, like the OP did (probably not his fault tho, he must have seen it somewhere else).
On October 15 2007 07:38 Funchucks wrote: The right-brained/left-brained personality thing is goofy pseudoscience. Please don't talk about it like a real thing.
Its just a model that has been developed which can be used to explain/predict certain behavior. Of course its not perfect, but useful nonetheless. (I wouldn't call it pseudoscience, its just a model)
Lol. This is completely bogus. She spins clockwise and without arousing any attention, she quickly switches to turning the other way. Just watch it for thirty seconds (the pretend her leg is a clock-hand)
On October 15 2007 07:38 Funchucks wrote: The right-brained/left-brained personality thing is goofy pseudoscience. Please don't talk about it like a real thing.
Its just a model that has been developed which can be used to explain/predict certain behavior. Of course its not perfect, but useful nonetheless. (I wouldn't call it pseudoscience, its just a model)
Sure. And so is the "four humours" (or in modern language, "four bodily fluids") model of emotion.
The left/right brained thing did start as something presented as science, was debunked, and now contributes nothing but confusion. If you hadn't noticed, there are people here who actually think this is a valid test for a brain trait that doesn't even exist.
Calling it "just a model" is a weak excuse for parroting bad science from decades ago.
On October 15 2007 07:38 Funchucks wrote: The right-brained/left-brained personality thing is goofy pseudoscience. Please don't talk about it like a real thing.
Its just a model that has been developed which can be used to explain/predict certain behavior. Of course its not perfect, but useful nonetheless. (I wouldn't call it pseudoscience, its just a model)
Sure. And so is the "four humours" (or in modern language, "four bodily fluids") model of emotion.
The left/right brained thing did start as something presented as science, was debunked, and now contributes nothing but confusion. If you hadn't noticed, there are people here who actually think this is a valid test for a brain trait that doesn't even exist.
Calling it "just a model" is a weak excuse for parroting bad science from decades ago.
On October 15 2007 07:38 Funchucks wrote: The right-brained/left-brained personality thing is goofy pseudoscience. Please don't talk about it like a real thing.
Its just a model that has been developed which can be used to explain/predict certain behavior. Of course its not perfect, but useful nonetheless. (I wouldn't call it pseudoscience, its just a model)
Sure. And so is the "four humours" (or in modern language, "four bodily fluids") model of emotion.
The left/right brained thing did start as something presented as science, was debunked, and now contributes nothing but confusion. If you hadn't noticed, there are people here who actually think this is a valid test for a brain trait that doesn't even exist.
Calling it "just a model" is a weak excuse for parroting bad science from decades ago.
On October 15 2007 07:38 Funchucks wrote: The right-brained/left-brained personality thing is goofy pseudoscience. Please don't talk about it like a real thing.
Its just a model that has been developed which can be used to explain/predict certain behavior. Of course its not perfect, but useful nonetheless. (I wouldn't call it pseudoscience, its just a model)
Sure. And so is the "four humours" (or in modern language, "four bodily fluids") model of emotion.
The left/right brained thing did start as something presented as science, was debunked, and now contributes nothing but confusion. If you hadn't noticed, there are people here who actually think this is a valid test for a brain trait that doesn't even exist.
Calling it "just a model" is a weak excuse for parroting bad science from decades ago.
Yes, the observing the effects of brain splitting surgery led to a lot of interesting and valid research about differences in the left and right hemispheres of the brain.
However, the idea that people are dominantly left-brained or dominantly right-brained is sheer unsupported garbage. Take poetry, for example. That's an artistic "right-brained" trait, right? Well, language processing is focused in the left hemisphere, so that's pure bullshit.
Most people could only be called "left-brain dominant". The left brain ordinarily gets more blood, is a bit bigger, controls the more coordinated right hand, and handles sophisticated grammar. It has nothing to do with whether you're rational or emotional, mathematical or artsy, calculating or creative.
Most popular pseudoscience is based on some tiny grain of scientific truth, but it's distorted into absolute nonsense. This left-brained/right-brained thing is like that.
Just to add to that funchucks, Graffiti as an art form is very very left and right brained combined thing.
The letters and math involved in making it coherent as well as the art put into the shapes and designs is like the perfect example of someone using both left/right brains simultaneously.
What I meant to show by that video is that there's obviously a big difference between the two hemispheres, and one does certain things much better than another (take language versus drawing for example). So it's within the realm of possibility that someone could have a right hemisphere that is a little more 'active' than normal (aka lefties etc), which probably does have an effect on how you view the world, and consequently, your personality.
of course i'm just speculating and a counter view is just as valid as mine, but i don't really think you can classify the right/left split of the brain as "a science that was debunked and causes nothing except confusion" as there's definitely a right/left strength/weakness thingy going on =p
I got it. This test is not about brain function, it's just an optical illusion. Let me explain: To make the dancer turn into the opposite direction, 1) look away and focuse a certain point in your room. 2) Follow the dancer from the corner of your eye and 3) realize into which direction the dancer is moving. 4) Look at the dancer and check. If it still moves into the old direction, go to 1) and focuse a different point this time. Preferably not too far from the first point, make only small differences. You can look to the right or the left, try around. Repeat until the dancer is moving into the opposite direction.
From then on you can repeat and repeat and repeat, the dancer will randomly move clockwise or counter-clockwise, it got nothing to do with your brain function. Just because you saw it clockwise first doesn't mean you're using the right side of your brain more (you had to choose a direction), it was just as luck would have it.
Exactly. That's what I was trying to say many pages ago in that it just oscillates from side to side.
There are just as many 'hints' thrown into the .gif to trick people into seeing it clockwise as there are to trick people into seeing it counterclockwise. It all depends where people anchored their eyes when first glancing at the image. In reality it doesn't spin at all - a trick as has already been established.
holy shit at first it was clockwise and then i tried really hard to make it counter but it didnt and now all of a sudden its counter clockwise and i cant get it back to clockwise!
ok i see how to turn it around..scroll down to where you can't see where her legs join into a blob of silhouette. From there it is easy to switch from clockwise to anti clockwise
On October 12 2007 16:08 chocolat wrote: Well I must say this is one stupid test. Isn't THIS OBVIOUS THAT THE PERSON IS TURNING CLOCKWISE? LIKE WHAT? I can not find a reason how someone would see this... ahem, doll, is spinning counter-clockwise. Well unless you got the words mixed up, that is. I think this is very inaccurate as I usually consider myself more logical than creative as I am more inclined into the scientific world rather than the artistic world.
I didn't even notice the grey lines at first, it seemed that the animation on the right is spinning a bit faster. Not until I read all the stuff he said did they start to spin opposite directions and back and forth etc. They were in a sync sort of to me.
She keeps changing directions all the time so I guess I cant answer the poll ;(
A cute trick you might want to try: Keep her faced away from you all the time. Let her spin half a lap then turn her and repeat so that she never faces you.
I can actually make her spin change her direction halfway through her rotation, so she never makes a full circle.
That link posted by Last.Midnight is a nice way to see it both ways. If you lean back and blurry ur eyes a bit you can make her spin in one direction, and then if you concentrate you can make her spin in the other. Then when you get close up so the gray lines show up she'll be spinning in opposite direction!
On October 19 2007 10:22 Live2Win wrote: I can actually make her spin change her direction halfway through her rotation, so she never makes a full circle.
i just trained myself to be able to switch off counter and clockwise every 3 or so seconds. naturally i was clockwise and i Had NO idea how anyone could see it coutnerclockwise.
when i first got it , it was sooo damn trippy.. wow thanks for this.
um yeah, I saw it spinning in both directions, depending on whichever way I tried to see it. I dno, could kind of just tell myself to see her spinning clockwise and she would. Then I'd say, ok see her spin counterclock and she would too. Is that my imagination doing it or is the dancer just changing directions each time the gif hitches??
You fools. Still dont know that Starcraft is the best game in the universe? Check the single player main screen, and tell me wich side is the dna code helix from the terran spinning.
That gif a few posts ago helped me see both directions. Holy shit, I couldn't make it spin the other way first time around, but now I can see it both ways.
EPT
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