On June 19 2022 00:59 Sermokala wrote: Thats not sand thats airborne pollution or smog. They had to shut down swathes of power plants and heavy manufacturing for like 60 days or something so that it would be clean enough on television.
It got really really really bad back in 2013 but they've been doing a lot to try and help out the situation.
At first, I thought the same thing you would, but this filter is used in various parts of China, even in some places with very good scenery where i have been there .but that place never have pollution or smog. so.. quite weird ，right？
If they have air as I presume in these good scenery places then they have pollution.
Unless there is a unique reason from geography that they don't receive wind patterns from the gobi desert or from other parts of urbanized china I don't see whats weird about it just because its pretty no.
On June 18 2022 23:38 Yancychen wrote: I am a Chinese who liked to play StarCraft and stumbled upon this section. I guess none of you who think there is apartheid in Tibet in Xinjiang has been there. I also know you would say why i have to go there to understand a place. I, as a Chinese, I tell you the most basic reasons. Chinese have been utterly disappointed in the Western media.
Around 2000, I enjoyed watching BBC documentaries about China, even though it unabashedly pointed out a lot of social issues, because I thought it made sense. But since about 2012, BBC has gradually resented me when reporting on China, first of all, a very obvious filter that makes people look like China is full of sand; There are also accuses from time to time, until it starts making up things that don't exist,I stopped watching any western media, such as bbc, cnn, lse. . And I am not the only one who has this view. In China, in my university, this is basically the consensus. But I don't think all Westerners are hostile to China, there are foreigners at my university, and I have a pretty good relationship with them.
Finally, I am indeed a CCP member, certainly not a propaganda robot.that's a joke. My hometown is in Shanxi Province, China. The scenery here is not bad. If you are a person who is interested in China, you can contact my email.i could afford you some rolls.
The accusation that BBC applies some filters to make it look like China is full of sand is a bizarre one. Perhaps it could have something to do with an increase in content from Xinjiang, which happens to be full of sand...
I am also very confused, but after comparing, I found that the bbc indeed did this, and I don't know what kind of consideration is it for? here is this. i dont know if you could see this picture? https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/115/824/714.jpg
Got a comparison of actual videos instead of some poor quality images?
There are two different versions, the one on the left is the Chinese version and the right is the international version。
On June 18 2022 23:38 Yancychen wrote: I am a Chinese who liked to play StarCraft and stumbled upon this section. I guess none of you who think there is apartheid in Tibet in Xinjiang has been there. I also know you would say why i have to go there to understand a place. I, as a Chinese, I tell you the most basic reasons. Chinese have been utterly disappointed in the Western media.
Around 2000, I enjoyed watching BBC documentaries about China, even though it unabashedly pointed out a lot of social issues, because I thought it made sense. But since about 2012, BBC has gradually resented me when reporting on China, first of all, a very obvious filter that makes people look like China is full of sand; There are also accuses from time to time, until it starts making up things that don't exist,I stopped watching any western media, such as bbc, cnn, lse. . And I am not the only one who has this view. In China, in my university, this is basically the consensus. But I don't think all Westerners are hostile to China, there are foreigners at my university, and I have a pretty good relationship with them.
Finally, I am indeed a CCP member, certainly not a propaganda robot.that's a joke. My hometown is in Shanxi Province, China. The scenery here is not bad. If you are a person who is interested in China, you can contact my email.i could afford you some rolls.
The accusation that BBC applies some filters to make it look like China is full of sand is a bizarre one. Perhaps it could have something to do with an increase in content from Xinjiang, which happens to be full of sand...
I am also very confused, but after comparing, I found that the bbc indeed did this, and I don't know what kind of consideration is it for? here is this. i dont know if you could see this picture? https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/115/824/714.jpg
Got a comparison of actual videos instead of some poor quality images?
There are two different versions, the one on the left is the Chinese version and the right is the international version
Why can't you just link them?
Also, if you really want to discuss Chinese politics, I can give you a topic that most of the media hasn't said, but we ccp members are all concerned about。Here is it.
China's Constitution was amended in two years ago.this made President Xi （the leader of china）'s presidency become infinitely longer. So...,We'll think of a noun which is emperor. you gays talk about xinjiang , tibet,taiwan and so on. in my opinion,It's childish. we dont care the way you think. this (the"emperor"issue) is what we rally care . it's too late. i need to go bed. bye
On June 18 2022 23:38 Yancychen wrote: I am a Chinese who liked to play StarCraft and stumbled upon this section. I guess none of you who think there is apartheid in Tibet in Xinjiang has been there. I also know you would say why i have to go there to understand a place. I, as a Chinese, I tell you the most basic reasons. Chinese have been utterly disappointed in the Western media.
Around 2000, I enjoyed watching BBC documentaries about China, even though it unabashedly pointed out a lot of social issues, because I thought it made sense. But since about 2012, BBC has gradually resented me when reporting on China, first of all, a very obvious filter that makes people look like China is full of sand; There are also accuses from time to time, until it starts making up things that don't exist,I stopped watching any western media, such as bbc, cnn, lse. . And I am not the only one who has this view. In China, in my university, this is basically the consensus. But I don't think all Westerners are hostile to China, there are foreigners at my university, and I have a pretty good relationship with them.
Finally, I am indeed a CCP member, certainly not a propaganda robot.that's a joke. My hometown is in Shanxi Province, China. The scenery here is not bad. If you are a person who is interested in China, you can contact my email.i could afford you some rolls.
The accusation that BBC applies some filters to make it look like China is full of sand is a bizarre one. Perhaps it could have something to do with an increase in content from Xinjiang, which happens to be full of sand...
I am also very confused, but after comparing, I found that the bbc indeed did this, and I don't know what kind of consideration is it for? here is this. i dont know if you could see this picture? https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/115/824/714.jpg
Got a comparison of actual videos instead of some poor quality images?
There are two different versions, the one on the left is the Chinese version and the right is the international version。
Also, if you really want to discuss Chinese politics, I can give you a topic that most of the media hasn't said, but we ccp members are all concerned about。Here is it.
China's Constitution was amended in two years ago.this made President Xi （the leader of china）'s presidency become infinitely longer. So...,We'll think of a noun which is emperor. you gays talk about xinjiang , tibet,taiwan and so on. in my opinion,It's childish. we dont care the way you think. this (the"emperor"issue) is what we rally care . it's too late. i need to go bed. bye
I guess to me the fact that a dictatorship has a dictator is unremarkable. That’s the least concerning thing with what the Chinese government does. The human rights abuses and environmental problems are a bigger issue than a dictator taking his mask off.
On June 18 2022 23:38 Yancychen wrote: I am a Chinese who liked to play StarCraft and stumbled upon this section. I guess none of you who think there is apartheid in Tibet in Xinjiang has been there. I also know you would say why i have to go there to understand a place. I, as a Chinese, I tell you the most basic reasons. Chinese have been utterly disappointed in the Western media.
Around 2000, I enjoyed watching BBC documentaries about China, even though it unabashedly pointed out a lot of social issues, because I thought it made sense. But since about 2012, BBC has gradually resented me when reporting on China, first of all, a very obvious filter that makes people look like China is full of sand; There are also accuses from time to time, until it starts making up things that don't exist,I stopped watching any western media, such as bbc, cnn, lse. . And I am not the only one who has this view. In China, in my university, this is basically the consensus. But I don't think all Westerners are hostile to China, there are foreigners at my university, and I have a pretty good relationship with them.
Finally, I am indeed a CCP member, certainly not a propaganda robot.that's a joke. My hometown is in Shanxi Province, China. The scenery here is not bad. If you are a person who is interested in China, you can contact my email.i could afford you some rolls.
The accusation that BBC applies some filters to make it look like China is full of sand is a bizarre one. Perhaps it could have something to do with an increase in content from Xinjiang, which happens to be full of sand...
I am also very confused, but after comparing, I found that the bbc indeed did this, and I don't know what kind of consideration is it for? here is this. i dont know if you could see this picture? https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/115/824/714.jpg
Got a comparison of actual videos instead of some poor quality images?
There are two different versions, the one on the left is the Chinese version and the right is the international version。
Also, if you really want to discuss Chinese politics, I can give you a topic that most of the media hasn't said, but we ccp members are all concerned about。Here is it.
China's Constitution was amended in two years ago.this made President Xi （the leader of china）'s presidency become infinitely longer. So...,We'll think of a noun which is emperor. you gays talk about xinjiang , tibet,taiwan and so on. in my opinion,It's childish. we dont care the way you think. this (the"emperor"issue) is what we rally care . it's too late. i need to go bed. bye
I guess to me the fact that a dictatorship has a dictator is unremarkable. That’s the least concerning thing with what the Chinese government does. The human rights abuses and environmental problems are a bigger issue than a dictator taking his mask off.
I agree. This is not Hollywood with people getting their feelings hurts. This is about hundreds of thousands of people being oppressed just because they are trying to live their life, just like me and you.
The delusion, gaslighting, and ignoring that is going on from chinas “privileged” citizens, the fact that they ignore any confrontation, anything that is truly going on in their own home, is nothing new, just sad.
I guess people who don’ t live there care more about the sad reality of what is going on there.
China has a great history, but the people who live comfortable lives there are being brainwashed, and those who are under a regime, are not free to speak in this thread.
On June 18 2022 23:38 Yancychen wrote: I am a Chinese who liked to play StarCraft and stumbled upon this section. I guess none of you who think there is apartheid in Tibet in Xinjiang has been there. I also know you would say why i have to go there to understand a place. I, as a Chinese, I tell you the most basic reasons. Chinese have been utterly disappointed in the Western media.
Around 2000, I enjoyed watching BBC documentaries about China, even though it unabashedly pointed out a lot of social issues, because I thought it made sense. But since about 2012, BBC has gradually resented me when reporting on China, first of all, a very obvious filter that makes people look like China is full of sand; There are also accuses from time to time, until it starts making up things that don't exist,I stopped watching any western media, such as bbc, cnn, lse. . And I am not the only one who has this view. In China, in my university, this is basically the consensus. But I don't think all Westerners are hostile to China, there are foreigners at my university, and I have a pretty good relationship with them.
Finally, I am indeed a CCP member, certainly not a propaganda robot.that's a joke. My hometown is in Shanxi Province, China. The scenery here is not bad. If you are a person who is interested in China, you can contact my email.i could afford you some rolls.
The accusation that BBC applies some filters to make it look like China is full of sand is a bizarre one. Perhaps it could have something to do with an increase in content from Xinjiang, which happens to be full of sand...
I am also very confused, but after comparing, I found that the bbc indeed did this, and I don't know what kind of consideration is it for? here is this. i dont know if you could see this picture? https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/115/824/714.jpg
Got a comparison of actual videos instead of some poor quality images?
There are two different versions, the one on the left is the Chinese version and the right is the international version。
Also, if you really want to discuss Chinese politics, I can give you a topic that most of the media hasn't said, but we ccp members are all concerned about。Here is it.
China's Constitution was amended in two years ago.this made President Xi （the leader of china）'s presidency become infinitely longer. So...,We'll think of a noun which is emperor. you gays talk about xinjiang , tibet,taiwan and so on. in my opinion,It's childish. we dont care the way you think. this (the"emperor"issue) is what we rally care . it's too late. i need to go bed. bye
I guess to me the fact that a dictatorship has a dictator is unremarkable. That’s the least concerning thing with what the Chinese government does. The human rights abuses and environmental problems are a bigger issue than a dictator taking his mask off.
I agree. This is not Hollywood with people getting their feelings hurts. This is about hundreds of thousands of people being oppressed just because they are trying to live their life, just like me and you.
The delusion, gaslighting, and ignoring that is going on from chinas “privileged” citizens, the fact that they ignore any confrontation, anything that is truly going on in their own home, is nothing new, just sad.
I guess people who don’ t live there care more about the sad reality of what is going on there.
China has a great history, but the people who live comfortable lives there are being brainwashed, and those who are under a regime, are not free to speak in this thread.
Free china at this point?
Fine, I can't help it. You accuse China of human rights and environmental problems. I tell you that the facts have been distorted. you should come to china and see what happened here by your own eyes.then you would say i was brainwashed. ..... it's a endless discuss. Why do you always think that there are people living in hell in China? if this make you feel good Then feel free . to tell the truth. i dont want to talk about politics anymore here. It seems to only spread hatred and antagonism. we live in the same planet. talk to each other by the wires in the bottom of oceans. But we only blame each other . China is a good place. i really want to share the interesting things to you gays. In your language，I am a patriot. but i am not the one who dont have brain . we accuse our goverment almost everyday .and it works .So ,my dear friend across the ocean . I'm trying to tell you for the last time that China does have environmental problems, but there is absolutely no apartheid in China, and if there is, believe me, I will, Chinese will drive this government out of China . You probably know that Chinese trust their government very much. The reason I trust the government is that when we find a problem with the government, it will indeed correct it . this government is not Perfect. but it's good enough. Now I'm going to the village and helping the villagers make money . bye
On June 18 2022 23:38 Yancychen wrote: I am a Chinese who liked to play StarCraft and stumbled upon this section. I guess none of you who think there is apartheid in Tibet in Xinjiang has been there. I also know you would say why i have to go there to understand a place. I, as a Chinese, I tell you the most basic reasons. Chinese have been utterly disappointed in the Western media.
Around 2000, I enjoyed watching BBC documentaries about China, even though it unabashedly pointed out a lot of social issues, because I thought it made sense. But since about 2012, BBC has gradually resented me when reporting on China, first of all, a very obvious filter that makes people look like China is full of sand; There are also accuses from time to time, until it starts making up things that don't exist,I stopped watching any western media, such as bbc, cnn, lse. . And I am not the only one who has this view. In China, in my university, this is basically the consensus. But I don't think all Westerners are hostile to China, there are foreigners at my university, and I have a pretty good relationship with them.
Finally, I am indeed a CCP member, certainly not a propaganda robot.that's a joke. My hometown is in Shanxi Province, China. The scenery here is not bad. If you are a person who is interested in China, you can contact my email.i could afford you some rolls.
The accusation that BBC applies some filters to make it look like China is full of sand is a bizarre one. Perhaps it could have something to do with an increase in content from Xinjiang, which happens to be full of sand...
I am also very confused, but after comparing, I found that the bbc indeed did this, and I don't know what kind of consideration is it for? here is this. i dont know if you could see this picture? https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/115/824/714.jpg
Got a comparison of actual videos instead of some poor quality images?
There are two different versions, the one on the left is the Chinese version and the right is the international version
Also, if you really want to discuss Chinese politics, I can give you a topic that most of the media hasn't said, but we ccp members are all concerned about。Here is it.
China's Constitution was amended in two years ago.this made President Xi （the leader of china）'s presidency become infinitely longer. So...,We'll think of a noun which is emperor. you gays talk about xinjiang , tibet,taiwan and so on. in my opinion,It's childish. we dont care the way you think. this (the"emperor"issue) is what we rally care . it's too late. i need to go bed. bye
It's really blizzare to see people not even try to make arguments or construct anything resembling reason or logic to defend their points. I just don't see what's the point of putting what has to be effort into something that's so devoid of purpose.
I mean the posters who say they're from China recycle the same basic information that doesn't make sense and that they don't even pretend to come up with a lie for. Why would anyone want to go to a nation that we believe is polluted and tyrannical? That's not going to persuade the most brainwashed qanon truther. At least the flat earthers keep trying to come up with things to convince themselves. If you're not going to even try to do anything why do you keep posting nonsense statements like they would persuade even you?
On June 19 2022 13:02 Sermokala wrote: Those links don't work.
It's really blizzare to see people not even try to make arguments or construct anything resembling reason or logic to defend their points. I just don't see what's the point of putting what has to be effort into something that's so devoid of purpose.
I mean the posters who say they're from China recycle the same basic information that doesn't make sense and that they don't even pretend to come up with a lie for. Why would anyone want to go to a nation that we believe is polluted and tyrannical? That's not going to persuade the most brainwashed qanon truther. At least the flat earthers keep trying to come up with things to convince themselves. If you're not going to even try to do anything why do you keep posting nonsense statements like they would persuade even you?
i got it . you want me to show you evidence about apartheid ,the religion issue and so on . I would like to give an example。How did you know that Germany set up concentration camps and slaughtered Jews during World War II?It should be through pictures, videos or memorials in Germany, Poland and other places，right? but i am just a normal person lives in china ,you dont believe chinese medias , i can't go to xinjiang to interview everyone lives in xinjiang to ask if they were tortured by CCP .Because xinjiang is too far and big. urumchi（the capital of xinjiang）is 3000km far from where i am live. Xinjiang is almost five times the size of Germany . I once traveled in Xinjiang for a month in 2016. I've been to a lot of places in Xinjiang . I asked the locals if they knew that foreigners said the CCP was oppressing ethnic minorities. They would laugh at me and ask if there was something wrong with my brain . So, I really don't know how to prove this thing. A recording? A video? You will say that these people were forced to say so.
So, my conclusion is that if you are a foreigner who really cares about the lives of the people of Xinjiang. Then I recommend you to come here instead of posting in a forum, which is very hypocritical and irresponsible.
By the way, I do know that the Uighur population in Xinjiang increased by 1865061 between 2010 and 2020. If ccps are in apartheid, the execution is also too poor.
I tried to find the URL encoding of the image, but failed, why can't this forum directly post the picture? This forum is a little different from the Chinese forum, and I haven't learned how to operate it yet
This is the best visual example I've seen of the alleged color alterations.
I wasn't able to dig up the actual youtube videos. I'd say it reminds me of the known Hollywood aesthetic of making Mexico sepia, sometimes referred to as a "third world filter", which is certainly prevalent in western entertainment media.
That said, while western media certainly has biases in what they show and how they show it, it doesn't appear like that particular issue continues now (on BBC) if it did happen.
On June 19 2022 13:02 Sermokala wrote: Those links don't work.
It's really blizzare to see people not even try to make arguments or construct anything resembling reason or logic to defend their points. I just don't see what's the point of putting what has to be effort into something that's so devoid of purpose.
I mean the posters who say they're from China recycle the same basic information that doesn't make sense and that they don't even pretend to come up with a lie for. Why would anyone want to go to a nation that we believe is polluted and tyrannical? That's not going to persuade the most brainwashed qanon truther. At least the flat earthers keep trying to come up with things to convince themselves. If you're not going to even try to do anything why do you keep posting nonsense statements like they would persuade even you?
i got it . you want me to show you evidence about apartheid ,the religion issue and so on . I would like to give an example。How did you know that Germany set up concentration camps and slaughtered Jews during World War II?It should be through pictures, videos or memorials in Germany, Poland and other places，right? but i am just a normal person lives in china ,you dont believe chinese medias , i can't go to xinjiang to interview everyone lives in xinjiang to ask if they were tortured by CCP .Because xinjiang is too far and big. urumchi（the capital of xinjiang）is 3000km far from where i am live. Xinjiang is almost five times the size of Germany . I once traveled in Xinjiang for a month in 2016. I've been to a lot of places in Xinjiang . I asked the locals if they knew that foreigners said the CCP was oppressing ethnic minorities. They would laugh at me and ask if there was something wrong with my brain . So, I really don't know how to prove this thing. A recording? A video? You will say that these people were forced to say so.
So, my conclusion is that if you are a foreigner who really cares about the lives of the people of Xinjiang. Then I recommend you to come here instead of posting in a forum, which is very hypocritical and irresponsible.
By the way, I do know that the Uighur population in Xinjiang increased by 1865061 between 2010 and 2020. If ccps are in apartheid, the execution is also too poor.
I tried to find the URL encoding of the image, but failed, why can't this forum directly post the picture? This forum is a little different from the Chinese forum, and I haven't learned how to operate it yet
On June 18 2022 23:38 Yancychen wrote: I am a Chinese who liked to play StarCraft and stumbled upon this section. I guess none of you who think there is apartheid in Tibet in Xinjiang has been there. I also know you would say why i have to go there to understand a place. I, as a Chinese, I tell you the most basic reasons. Chinese have been utterly disappointed in the Western media.
Around 2000, I enjoyed watching BBC documentaries about China, even though it unabashedly pointed out a lot of social issues, because I thought it made sense. But since about 2012, BBC has gradually resented me when reporting on China, first of all, a very obvious filter that makes people look like China is full of sand; There are also accuses from time to time, until it starts making up things that don't exist,I stopped watching any western media, such as bbc, cnn, lse. . And I am not the only one who has this view. In China, in my university, this is basically the consensus. But I don't think all Westerners are hostile to China, there are foreigners at my university, and I have a pretty good relationship with them.
Finally, I am indeed a CCP member, certainly not a propaganda robot.that's a joke. My hometown is in Shanxi Province, China. The scenery here is not bad. If you are a person who is interested in China, you can contact my email.i could afford you some rolls.
The accusation that BBC applies some filters to make it look like China is full of sand is a bizarre one. Perhaps it could have something to do with an increase in content from Xinjiang, which happens to be full of sand...
I am also very confused, but after comparing, I found that the bbc indeed did this, and I don't know what kind of consideration is it for? here is this. i dont know if you could see this picture? https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/115/824/714.jpg
Got a comparison of actual videos instead of some poor quality images?
There are two different versions, the one on the left is the Chinese version and the right is the international version
Also, if you really want to discuss Chinese politics, I can give you a topic that most of the media hasn't said, but we ccp members are all concerned about。Here is it.
China's Constitution was amended in two years ago.this made President Xi （the leader of china）'s presidency become infinitely longer. So...,We'll think of a noun which is emperor. you gays talk about xinjiang , tibet,taiwan and so on. in my opinion,It's childish. we dont care the way you think. this (the"emperor"issue) is what we rally care . it's too late. i need to go bed. bye
It's been discussed at length in the West.
So still no evidence? How come it's so difficult to find examples if BBC is supposedly doing this all the time?
On June 19 2022 15:19 GreenHorizons wrote: This is the best visual example I've seen of the alleged color alterations.
I wasn't able to dig up the actual youtube videos. I'd say it reminds me of the known Hollywood aesthetic of making Mexico sepia, sometimes referred to as a "third world filter", which is certainly prevalent in western entertainment media.
That said, while western media certainly has biases in what they show and how they show it, it doesn't appear like that particular issue continues now (on BBC) if it did happen.
You can literally go to YouTube and search "BBC China", and not find a single example of this filter being used, but you'd rather believe some propaganda account on Twitter that won't provide any original sources. Perhaps you shouldn't fall for the propaganda of your favourite fascist dictatorship so easily. ;-)
On June 18 2022 23:38 Yancychen wrote: I am a Chinese who liked to play StarCraft and stumbled upon this section. I guess none of you who think there is apartheid in Tibet in Xinjiang has been there. I also know you would say why i have to go there to understand a place. I, as a Chinese, I tell you the most basic reasons. Chinese have been utterly disappointed in the Western media.
Around 2000, I enjoyed watching BBC documentaries about China, even though it unabashedly pointed out a lot of social issues, because I thought it made sense. But since about 2012, BBC has gradually resented me when reporting on China, first of all, a very obvious filter that makes people look like China is full of sand; There are also accuses from time to time, until it starts making up things that don't exist,I stopped watching any western media, such as bbc, cnn, lse. . And I am not the only one who has this view. In China, in my university, this is basically the consensus. But I don't think all Westerners are hostile to China, there are foreigners at my university, and I have a pretty good relationship with them.
Finally, I am indeed a CCP member, certainly not a propaganda robot.that's a joke. My hometown is in Shanxi Province, China. The scenery here is not bad. If you are a person who is interested in China, you can contact my email.i could afford you some rolls.
The accusation that BBC applies some filters to make it look like China is full of sand is a bizarre one. Perhaps it could have something to do with an increase in content from Xinjiang, which happens to be full of sand...
I am also very confused, but after comparing, I found that the bbc indeed did this, and I don't know what kind of consideration is it for? here is this. i dont know if you could see this picture? https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/115/824/714.jpg
Got a comparison of actual videos instead of some poor quality images?
There are two different versions, the one on the left is the Chinese version and the right is the international version
Also, if you really want to discuss Chinese politics, I can give you a topic that most of the media hasn't said, but we ccp members are all concerned about。Here is it.
China's Constitution was amended in two years ago.this made President Xi （the leader of china）'s presidency become infinitely longer. So...,We'll think of a noun which is emperor. you gays talk about xinjiang , tibet,taiwan and so on. in my opinion,It's childish. we dont care the way you think. this (the"emperor"issue) is what we rally care . it's too late. i need to go bed. bye
It's been discussed at length in the West.
So still no evidence? How come it's so difficult to find examples if BBC is supposedly doing this all the time?
I wasn't able to dig up the actual youtube videos. I'd say it reminds me of the known Hollywood aesthetic of making Mexico sepia, sometimes referred to as a "third world filter", which is certainly prevalent in western entertainment media.
That said, while western media certainly has biases in what they show and how they show it, it doesn't appear like that particular issue continues now (on BBC) if it did happen.
You can literally go to YouTube and search "BBC China", and not find a single example of this filter being used, but you'd rather believe some propaganda account on Twitter that won't provide any original sources. Perhaps you shouldn't fall for the propaganda of your favourite fascist dictatorship so easily. ;-)
As in I didn't dig up the specific video seen in the tweet to either confirm or refute the allegations. Allegations I said I didn't see the BBC doing currently.
I went ahead and dug deeper into it and... They definitely did it
The clips from the tweet are from these two videos
BBC News English:
BBC News Chinese
I went from skeptical but not dismissive to discovering this example of western propaganda covering this.
A cyber security company that supposedly sees $200,000,000+ in annual revenue got cited by Wired in a western propaganda piece about this and neither of them bothered to acknowledge the readily apparent discordance between the videos in their reporting.
On June 18 2022 23:38 Yancychen wrote: I am a Chinese who liked to play StarCraft and stumbled upon this section. I guess none of you who think there is apartheid in Tibet in Xinjiang has been there. I also know you would say why i have to go there to understand a place. I, as a Chinese, I tell you the most basic reasons. Chinese have been utterly disappointed in the Western media.
Around 2000, I enjoyed watching BBC documentaries about China, even though it unabashedly pointed out a lot of social issues, because I thought it made sense. But since about 2012, BBC has gradually resented me when reporting on China, first of all, a very obvious filter that makes people look like China is full of sand; There are also accuses from time to time, until it starts making up things that don't exist,I stopped watching any western media, such as bbc, cnn, lse. . And I am not the only one who has this view. In China, in my university, this is basically the consensus. But I don't think all Westerners are hostile to China, there are foreigners at my university, and I have a pretty good relationship with them.
Finally, I am indeed a CCP member, certainly not a propaganda robot.that's a joke. My hometown is in Shanxi Province, China. The scenery here is not bad. If you are a person who is interested in China, you can contact my email.i could afford you some rolls.
The accusation that BBC applies some filters to make it look like China is full of sand is a bizarre one. Perhaps it could have something to do with an increase in content from Xinjiang, which happens to be full of sand...
I am also very confused, but after comparing, I found that the bbc indeed did this, and I don't know what kind of consideration is it for? here is this. i dont know if you could see this picture? https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/115/824/714.jpg
Got a comparison of actual videos instead of some poor quality images?
There are two different versions, the one on the left is the Chinese version and the right is the international version
Also, if you really want to discuss Chinese politics, I can give you a topic that most of the media hasn't said, but we ccp members are all concerned about。Here is it.
China's Constitution was amended in two years ago.this made President Xi （the leader of china）'s presidency become infinitely longer. So...,We'll think of a noun which is emperor. you gays talk about xinjiang , tibet,taiwan and so on. in my opinion,It's childish. we dont care the way you think. this (the"emperor"issue) is what we rally care . it's too late. i need to go bed. bye
It's been discussed at length in the West.
So still no evidence? How come it's so difficult to find examples if BBC is supposedly doing this all the time?
On June 19 2022 15:19 GreenHorizons wrote: This is the best visual example I've seen of the alleged color alterations.
I wasn't able to dig up the actual youtube videos. I'd say it reminds me of the known Hollywood aesthetic of making Mexico sepia, sometimes referred to as a "third world filter", which is certainly prevalent in western entertainment media.
That said, while western media certainly has biases in what they show and how they show it, it doesn't appear like that particular issue continues now (on BBC) if it did happen.
You can literally go to YouTube and search "BBC China", and not find a single example of this filter being used, but you'd rather believe some propaganda account on Twitter that won't provide any original sources. Perhaps you shouldn't fall for the propaganda of your favourite fascist dictatorship so easily. ;-)
As in I didn't dig up the specific video seen in the tweet to either confirm or refute the allegations. Allegations I said I didn't see the BBC doing currently.
I went ahead and dug deeper into it and... They definitely did it
The clips from the tweet are from these two videos
I went from skeptical but not dismissive to discovering this example of western propaganda covering this.
A cyber security company that supposedly sees $200,000,000+ in annual revenue got cited by Wired in a western propaganda piece about this and neither of them bothered to acknowledge the readily apparent discordance between the videos in their reporting.
Good find. But what's more likely: that it was some technical screw-up (I watch their coverage on the war in Ukraine on YouTube and they have plenty of issues with sound, for example) or that BBC had some ulterior motive and applied some filter to make look China bad? When I google "BBC China filter" all I get is this one video. I've checked some 10-15 videos on China on BBC's YouTube channel and all of them looked perfectly normal.
Here are some examples of videos uploaded on both of their channels:
On June 18 2022 23:38 Yancychen wrote: I am a Chinese who liked to play StarCraft and stumbled upon this section. I guess none of you who think there is apartheid in Tibet in Xinjiang has been there. I also know you would say why i have to go there to understand a place. I, as a Chinese, I tell you the most basic reasons. Chinese have been utterly disappointed in the Western media.
Around 2000, I enjoyed watching BBC documentaries about China, even though it unabashedly pointed out a lot of social issues, because I thought it made sense. But since about 2012, BBC has gradually resented me when reporting on China, first of all, a very obvious filter that makes people look like China is full of sand; There are also accuses from time to time, until it starts making up things that don't exist,I stopped watching any western media, such as bbc, cnn, lse. . And I am not the only one who has this view. In China, in my university, this is basically the consensus. But I don't think all Westerners are hostile to China, there are foreigners at my university, and I have a pretty good relationship with them.
Finally, I am indeed a CCP member, certainly not a propaganda robot.that's a joke. My hometown is in Shanxi Province, China. The scenery here is not bad. If you are a person who is interested in China, you can contact my email.i could afford you some rolls.
The accusation that BBC applies some filters to make it look like China is full of sand is a bizarre one. Perhaps it could have something to do with an increase in content from Xinjiang, which happens to be full of sand...
I am also very confused, but after comparing, I found that the bbc indeed did this, and I don't know what kind of consideration is it for? here is this. i dont know if you could see this picture? https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/115/824/714.jpg
Got a comparison of actual videos instead of some poor quality images?
There are two different versions, the one on the left is the Chinese version and the right is the international version
Also, if you really want to discuss Chinese politics, I can give you a topic that most of the media hasn't said, but we ccp members are all concerned about。Here is it.
China's Constitution was amended in two years ago.this made President Xi （the leader of china）'s presidency become infinitely longer. So...,We'll think of a noun which is emperor. you gays talk about xinjiang , tibet,taiwan and so on. in my opinion,It's childish. we dont care the way you think. this (the"emperor"issue) is what we rally care . it's too late. i need to go bed. bye
It's been discussed at length in the West.
So still no evidence? How come it's so difficult to find examples if BBC is supposedly doing this all the time?
On June 19 2022 15:19 GreenHorizons wrote: This is the best visual example I've seen of the alleged color alterations.
I wasn't able to dig up the actual youtube videos. I'd say it reminds me of the known Hollywood aesthetic of making Mexico sepia, sometimes referred to as a "third world filter", which is certainly prevalent in western entertainment media.
That said, while western media certainly has biases in what they show and how they show it, it doesn't appear like that particular issue continues now (on BBC) if it did happen.
You can literally go to YouTube and search "BBC China", and not find a single example of this filter being used, but you'd rather believe some propaganda account on Twitter that won't provide any original sources. Perhaps you shouldn't fall for the propaganda of your favourite fascist dictatorship so easily. ;-)
As in I didn't dig up the specific video seen in the tweet to either confirm or refute the allegations. Allegations I said I didn't see the BBC doing currently.
I went ahead and dug deeper into it and... They definitely did it
The clips from the tweet are from these two videos
I went from skeptical but not dismissive to discovering this example of western propaganda covering this.
A cyber security company that supposedly sees $200,000,000+ in annual revenue got cited by Wired in a western propaganda piece about this and neither of them bothered to acknowledge the readily apparent discordance between the videos in their reporting.
Good find. But what's more likely: that it was some technical screw-up (I watch their coverage on the war in Ukraine on YouTube and they have plenty of issues with sound, for example) or that BBC had some ulterior motive and applied some filter to make look China bad? When I google "BBC China filter" all I get is this one video. I've checked some 10-15 videos on China on BBC's YouTube channel and all of them looked perfectly normal.
I don't know the odds but if it was a technical error they should have said that instead of pretending there wasn't an obvious difference that people were calling out and turning it into western propaganda gaslighting the people who saw it.
On June 19 2022 00:27 maybenexttime wrote: [quote] The accusation that BBC applies some filters to make it look like China is full of sand is a bizarre one. Perhaps it could have something to do with an increase in content from Xinjiang, which happens to be full of sand...
I am also very confused, but after comparing, I found that the bbc indeed did this, and I don't know what kind of consideration is it for? here is this. i dont know if you could see this picture? https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/115/824/714.jpg
Got a comparison of actual videos instead of some poor quality images?
There are two different versions, the one on the left is the Chinese version and the right is the international version
Also, if you really want to discuss Chinese politics, I can give you a topic that most of the media hasn't said, but we ccp members are all concerned about。Here is it.
China's Constitution was amended in two years ago.this made President Xi （the leader of china）'s presidency become infinitely longer. So...,We'll think of a noun which is emperor. you gays talk about xinjiang , tibet,taiwan and so on. in my opinion,It's childish. we dont care the way you think. this (the"emperor"issue) is what we rally care . it's too late. i need to go bed. bye
It's been discussed at length in the West.
So still no evidence? How come it's so difficult to find examples if BBC is supposedly doing this all the time?
On June 19 2022 15:19 GreenHorizons wrote: This is the best visual example I've seen of the alleged color alterations.
I wasn't able to dig up the actual youtube videos. I'd say it reminds me of the known Hollywood aesthetic of making Mexico sepia, sometimes referred to as a "third world filter", which is certainly prevalent in western entertainment media.
That said, while western media certainly has biases in what they show and how they show it, it doesn't appear like that particular issue continues now (on BBC) if it did happen.
You can literally go to YouTube and search "BBC China", and not find a single example of this filter being used, but you'd rather believe some propaganda account on Twitter that won't provide any original sources. Perhaps you shouldn't fall for the propaganda of your favourite fascist dictatorship so easily. ;-)
As in I didn't dig up the specific video seen in the tweet to either confirm or refute the allegations. Allegations I said I didn't see the BBC doing currently.
I went ahead and dug deeper into it and... They definitely did it
The clips from the tweet are from these two videos
I went from skeptical but not dismissive to discovering this example of western propaganda covering this.
A cyber security company that supposedly sees $200,000,000+ in annual revenue got cited by Wired in a western propaganda piece about this and neither of them bothered to acknowledge the readily apparent discordance between the videos in their reporting.
Good find. But what's more likely: that it was some technical screw-up (I watch their coverage on the war in Ukraine on YouTube and they have plenty of issues with sound, for example) or that BBC had some ulterior motive and applied some filter to make look China bad? When I google "BBC China filter" all I get is this one video. I've checked some 10-15 videos on China on BBC's YouTube channel and all of them looked perfectly normal.
I don't know the odds but if it was a technical error they should have said that instead of pretending there wasn't an obvious difference that people were calling out and turning it into western propaganda gaslighting the people who saw it.
Who are they? Did BBC deny there was a difference? Or do you mean Wired? They probably couldn't find the video. I couldn't find a single pro-Chinese source that linked the original videos. The claim was that this was a systematic issue, a smear campaign by the BBC. That is obviously nonsense.
I am also very confused, but after comparing, I found that the bbc indeed did this, and I don't know what kind of consideration is it for? here is this. i dont know if you could see this picture? https://imagepphcloud.thepaper.cn/pph/image/115/824/714.jpg
Got a comparison of actual videos instead of some poor quality images?
There are two different versions, the one on the left is the Chinese version and the right is the international version
Also, if you really want to discuss Chinese politics, I can give you a topic that most of the media hasn't said, but we ccp members are all concerned about。Here is it.
China's Constitution was amended in two years ago.this made President Xi （the leader of china）'s presidency become infinitely longer. So...,We'll think of a noun which is emperor. you gays talk about xinjiang , tibet,taiwan and so on. in my opinion,It's childish. we dont care the way you think. this (the"emperor"issue) is what we rally care . it's too late. i need to go bed. bye
It's been discussed at length in the West.
So still no evidence? How come it's so difficult to find examples if BBC is supposedly doing this all the time?
On June 19 2022 15:19 GreenHorizons wrote: This is the best visual example I've seen of the alleged color alterations.
I wasn't able to dig up the actual youtube videos. I'd say it reminds me of the known Hollywood aesthetic of making Mexico sepia, sometimes referred to as a "third world filter", which is certainly prevalent in western entertainment media.
That said, while western media certainly has biases in what they show and how they show it, it doesn't appear like that particular issue continues now (on BBC) if it did happen.
You can literally go to YouTube and search "BBC China", and not find a single example of this filter being used, but you'd rather believe some propaganda account on Twitter that won't provide any original sources. Perhaps you shouldn't fall for the propaganda of your favourite fascist dictatorship so easily. ;-)
As in I didn't dig up the specific video seen in the tweet to either confirm or refute the allegations. Allegations I said I didn't see the BBC doing currently.
I went ahead and dug deeper into it and... They definitely did it
The clips from the tweet are from these two videos
I went from skeptical but not dismissive to discovering this example of western propaganda covering this.
A cyber security company that supposedly sees $200,000,000+ in annual revenue got cited by Wired in a western propaganda piece about this and neither of them bothered to acknowledge the readily apparent discordance between the videos in their reporting.
Good find. But what's more likely: that it was some technical screw-up (I watch their coverage on the war in Ukraine on YouTube and they have plenty of issues with sound, for example) or that BBC had some ulterior motive and applied some filter to make look China bad? When I google "BBC China filter" all I get is this one video. I've checked some 10-15 videos on China on BBC's YouTube channel and all of them looked perfectly normal.
I don't know the odds but if it was a technical error they should have said that instead of pretending there wasn't an obvious difference that people were calling out and turning it into western propaganda gaslighting the people who saw it.
Who is they? Did BBC deny there was a difference? Or do you mean Wired? They probably couldn't find the video. I couldn't find a single pro-Chinese source that linked the original videos. The claim was that this was a systematic issue, a smear campaign by the BBC. That is obviously nonsense.
BBC, Wired, and the firm's report they cited. They definitely found the video (versions are linked in the reporting). The systemic issue is the bias demonstrated by all three, not systematically using a "gloom filter". This is a pretty naked example of that bias.
What bias are you talking about? Chinese propaganda is using a single video with what is most likely a simple technical issue to smear the entirety of BBC's reporting on China as supposedly having an ulterior agenda. That is what the article and the report are about.
The gloom filter narrative is a distraction. Sure, they probably should've addressed that. But it's pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
On June 19 2022 13:02 Sermokala wrote: Those links don't work.
It's really blizzare to see people not even try to make arguments or construct anything resembling reason or logic to defend their points. I just don't see what's the point of putting what has to be effort into something that's so devoid of purpose.
I mean the posters who say they're from China recycle the same basic information that doesn't make sense and that they don't even pretend to come up with a lie for. Why would anyone want to go to a nation that we believe is polluted and tyrannical? That's not going to persuade the most brainwashed qanon truther. At least the flat earthers keep trying to come up with things to convince themselves. If you're not going to even try to do anything why do you keep posting nonsense statements like they would persuade even you?
i got it . you want me to show you evidence about apartheid ,the religion issue and so on . I would like to give an example。How did you know that Germany set up concentration camps and slaughtered Jews during World War II?It should be through pictures, videos or memorials in Germany, Poland and other places，right? but i am just a normal person lives in china ,you dont believe chinese medias , i can't go to xinjiang to interview everyone lives in xinjiang to ask if they were tortured by CCP .Because xinjiang is too far and big. urumchi（the capital of xinjiang）is 3000km far from where i am live. Xinjiang is almost five times the size of Germany . I once traveled in Xinjiang for a month in 2016. I've been to a lot of places in Xinjiang . I asked the locals if they knew that foreigners said the CCP was oppressing ethnic minorities. They would laugh at me and ask if there was something wrong with my brain . So, I really don't know how to prove this thing. A recording? A video? You will say that these people were forced to say so.
So, my conclusion is that if you are a foreigner who really cares about the lives of the people of Xinjiang. Then I recommend you to come here instead of posting in a forum, which is very hypocritical and irresponsible.
By the way, I do know that the Uighur population in Xinjiang increased by 1865061 between 2010 and 2020. If ccps are in apartheid, the execution is also too poor.
I tried to find the URL encoding of the image, but failed, why can't this forum directly post the picture? This forum is a little different from the Chinese forum, and I haven't learned how to operate it yet
why do i find this part a little hard to believe?
DETAILS: i got to urumchi by train .it takes me 24 hours and 75 US dollars .then i rent a car to travel . here are the names of place ： tianshan Mountain Cocoto Sea Sailim Lake Bayinbrook Prairie
I spent about 30,000 yuan （about 4500 US dollars）for this travel .that's a huge expenditures . i dont know how to Upload a photo of myself. It's really disappointing. Xinjiang does have a lot of deserts. But there are also many great views .you could find lots Hotels and hostels in each small citys. The noodles and lamb there were nice. My language skills were so poor that I couldn't think of anything else. sorry, Have a nice day
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