Russo-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 97

On April 19 2022 20:50 RvB wrote:


Thanks that's interesting. I wonder how they include donations which go via the EU. Since a lot of the aid comes from the EU (or countries are reimbursed from their aid by the EU).

On April 19 2022 18:23 Gorsameth wrote:
The issue a lot of people, myself included, have is that the use of Nuclear weapons, tactical or not, should never be allowed and the response should be more then 'we're going to make you lose a fight you were losing anyway'.
Any response that doesn't end with Putin being removed from power and thrown into an international jail awaiting his war crimes tribunal isn't good enough. And that means not just kicking Russia out of Ukraine.

If the response to a small scale tactical nuclear strike is not utter devastating and disproportion someone else may get the idea to do it again one day.

On April 19 2022 21:29 Harris1st wrote:


No. I said explicitly THIS chart. Because it's not really compareable is it. Next time maybe read before insulting me

Edit to clarify: Charts like this should tell people at a glance what's going on and not pull out their calculators, notebooks and google GDP's of individual countries

The data on GDP (current US$) is for 2020 and taken from the World Bank.

On April 19 2022 21:54 Neneu wrote:
I wonder why they have included countries outside of Europe like Japan, but not other european countries like Norway or Switzerland which are not in EU.

We focus on 31 Western donors. The largest group are the 27 EU member countries. Besides, we include the (remaining) G7 countries.

On April 19 2022 21:27 Sbrubbles wrote:


NATO (not only leadership but also much of the public opinion in its constituent countries) hasn't even been able to agree to enforcing a no-fly zone in fear of nuclear escalation with Russia, so promising nuclear holocaust if Russia uses a small scale tactical nuclear strike is just not credible.

On April 19 2022 21:29 Harris1st wrote:


No. I said explicitly THIS chart. Because it's not really compareable is it. Next time maybe read before insulting me

Edit to clarify: Charts like this should tell people at a glance what's going on and not pull out their calculators, notebooks and google GDP's of individual countries

On April 19 2022 22:40 JimmiC wrote:
I think it is best to have both charts as they help to tell the whole story, what is the total amount given and how does that relate to what they are able to give.

LONDON, April 19 (Reuters) - Britain said on Tuesday it planned to revoke the Moscow Stock Exchange's (MOEX) status as a recognised stock exchange in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, a move that would remove some tax relief for new investors.

Britain and other Western allies are searching for new ways to increase pressure on Russia following its invasion of Ukraine, targeting wealthy elites and key industries as well as trying to cut off access to the international financial system.

"Revoking Moscow Stock Exchange’s recognised status sends a clear message – there is no case for new investments in Russia," Britain's Financial Secretary to the Treasury, Lucy Frazer, said in a statement.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson, U.S. President Joe Biden and other world leaders are due to hold a call later on Tuesday to discuss further sanctions against Russia.

Russia, which earlier launched its long-anticipated all-out assault on east Ukraine, says it is conducting a special operation to demilitarise its neighbour.

Britain grants recognised status to some exchanges, which allow the securities traded on them to benefit from specific tax reliefs. While existing investments through MOEX would be unaffected, new ones would not benefit if its status is revoked.

Britain said the move was in response to restrictions the Bank of Russia has placed on foreign investors, citing a Feb. 28 ban by MOEX which prevented brokers from selling assets at the instruction of non-Russian residents.

The government said the exchange was "no longer operating in line with the normal commercial standards expected of a recognised exchange."

Britain's tax authority launched a two-week consultation on the move, inviting comment from interested parties before the terms are finalised.

On April 19 2022 21:12 Ghanburighan wrote:


You can kinda' sleuth it out from the other figures they included:



So, essentially DE ends up with a 300m lower contribution than Poland (1.06bn vs 1.09bn, respectively). Which my napkin calculator says is 0.026% of DE's GDP. Poland ends up with 0.18% of its GDP.

FR ends up with 0.96bn, which is 0.037% of its GDP.

Edit: @Harris1st

You're calling all per capita contributions nonsense. That's pretty desperate.

It's clear that someone making 100k a year donating 1000 euros is making less of a sacrifice than a guy making 25k a year donating 1000 euros. As a % of their total income, the first guy should be donating 4000 euros to match the latter.

On April 19 2022 23:58 KwarK wrote:

And as a % of their disposable income even more. Bread and rent doesn’t cost the guy making 100k 4x as much as the guy making 25k.

On April 19 2022 21:04 Harris1st wrote:
Which GDP? This chart is nonsense

The other is way more direct and understandable



Edit: Oh look at that. Germany in 4th place. How did that happen

On April 20 2022 01:23 Sent. wrote:
Ghanburighan said it's between 24.02.22 and 27.03.22.