Russo-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 96

On April 18 2022 10:01 calh wrote:
Nope, the burning section is aft of the large missile tubes; you could vaguely see the intact tubes through the smoke. OTOH the black area at the waterline (just below the fire) looks like an entry hole? I think the hull on its left edge appears caved in a bit.

IMO the ship could have been shot with Harpoon or whatever anti-ship missile the West supplied clandestinely. Would explain the lack of Neptune launch pics/videos like the Ukraine usually shows for their victories, and US intel being weirdly reserved on the incident.

On April 18 2022 11:03 Sermokala wrote:
Kyiv is the mother city of the Slavic people.

On April 18 2022 18:16 gobbledydook wrote:
What is NATO or the west supposed to do if Putin uses nukes?
Nuking Russia seems like a really bad idea but if Putin is willing to use nukes, it seems that more sanctions aren't going to deter him.

On April 18 2022 18:36 Ghanburighan wrote:


Check the Sam Gardner presentation I posted 17 h ago. I doubt he knows the current plan but it shouldn't be much different.

On April 18 2022 10:56 Sermokala wrote:

The Neptune is an in house missile system that is bleeding edge tech. If it is this successful, and they are able to replicate such a success, this is a weapon they can sell to the united states industrial complex for billions and billions of dollars. Put dozens of them into Taiwan and they will never be threatened again.

They are probably desperately hiding where they are being stored and from what they were fired from. The BA-2 is an extremely useful piece of propaganda because everyone already knows about it and it takes its own footage. Having a secret weapon that can sink Capital vessels with ease is more useful as a secret.

On April 19 2022 04:00 Mohdoo wrote:


The video is over an hour long. What is the gist of it?

On April 19 2022 04:00 Mohdoo wrote:


The video is over an hour long. What is the gist of it?

Billionaire Roman Abramovich has traveled to Kyiv in a bid to restart peace talks between Russia and Ukraine, which stalled after evidence emerged of Russian atrocities against civilians.

Abramovich met with Ukrainian negotiators to discuss ways of reviving the negotiations, according to people with knowledge of the matter. The Russian billionaire, who has longtime ties to President Vladimir Putin, has been acting as an informal mediator since the war began in late February, when Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy asked him to get involved.

In an interview with Ukrainian online media published Saturday, Zelenskiy said the talks are at a “dead end because we will not trade our territory and our people.” He said that if Russian forces follow through on a threat to destroy the remaining Ukrainian troops fighting in Mariupol, that may “put an end” to talks.

In Russia, Abramovich “represents the side that backs a diplomatic resolution and end to the war,” he said. “Nobody can guarantee that it isn’t a game.”

A spokesperson for Abramovich said he’s not in Kyiv, declining to comment further. Ukrainian negotiator Mykhailo Podolyak declined to comment. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

After the last round of face-to-face meetings in Istanbul on March 29 -- which Abramovich attended -- there’s been little sign of progress. On Tuesday, Putin said they’re at a “dead end” and vowed to continue his invasion. Zelenskiy has said the discovery in recent weeks of evidence of war crimes by Russian troops stationed in Bucha and other towns near Kyiv has complicated prospects for the negotiations. Moscow denies its forces committed atrocities.

Since the Istanbul meeting, Russia has redeployed troops from northern Ukraine to the Donbas region in the east, preparing what’s expected to be a major new ground assault in the coming days or weeks to take more territory.

Russian troops increased shelling of Ukraine’s cities in recent days after the sinking of the flagship of its Black Sea Fleet, the cruiser Moskva. Ukraine said its missiles hit the ship, while Russia has said only that it caught fire, without explaining how. Regions including Kyiv and Lviv in Ukraine’s far west have come under fire.

Ukraine still hasn’t had an official response from the Kremlin on proposals it made to Russia at the Istanbul talks, while Moscow has repeatedly accused Kyiv of stalling. Lower-level talks have continued via video link, with scant signs of progress.

Zelenskiy has called on foreign countries to provide more weapons and to increase sanctions against Russia to strengthen his hand in the negotiations.

“I always tell all our partners with whom I discuss this issue, that the amount of support for Ukraine directly affects the restoration of peace,” Zelenskiy said Friday in an address to the nation. Russia has warned the U.S. and its allies against sending more arms, though so far without success.

On April 19 2022 04:00 Mohdoo wrote:


The video is over an hour long. What is the gist of it?

On April 19 2022 17:32 maybenexttime wrote:

We're talking about a nuclear strike on Ukraine, not NATO. A nuclear strike on Russia would be seriously escalatory. A conventional military response sends a different message: we're determined to make you lose this war but won't necessarily destroy your country.