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Sweden2806 Posts
7 hours ago
#18601
On May 31 2026 05:56 Manit0u wrote:
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On May 30 2026 14:55 Sermokala wrote:
At the same time it feels like bait to get NATO to involve themselves into the war, to justify mobilization and changing the status quo. I've been seeing a lot more optimism about the war recently and Ukraine getting consistent drone coverage on the land route to crimera.

We're back in the zone where if the kerch bridge fails the entire southern flank falls with it. That kind of reversal combined with it being the 4th year of war and Ukraines increaseing ability to strike deeply into Russia could be huge.


I think it might be more of a long game plan to retake Crimea. Russia's navy in the Black Sea is stuck at distant ports. Kerch bridge is being periodically destroyed, now northern route is under drone surveillence. This means Crimea is pretty much isolated and it would be impossible to send reinforcements and supplies there. If Ukraine invaded it and took it back even for a moment it would be an insane blow to Putin's regime and no way for them to sell this war as a victory.


OK, that's enough hopium for today. Let's look at this realistically. Ukraine currently enjoys the advantage of having starlink and new intermediate range drones that can hit the supply routes to the south in the land corridor.
As well as Russia losing their access to starlink which enabled their forward C&C and medium range supply interdiction.
This has allowed Ukraine to do some *minor* gains in the south.

First, as we all know, this war shifts constantly. It's entirely possible a technological counter will be developed. Russia is trying to launch their own starlink equivalent and already have some satellites in orbit. They are supposed to get a rudimentary network going in months. This may be copium, or it may be real. They only need a band covering Ukraine with enough bandwidth for military use, and they can launch satellites.
They could also start mass producing cheap AI powered intercept drones to protect their convoys.

But if they don't, and Ukraine manages to blow up the Kerch bridge. Supply is still not strangled 100%. It's unlikely that Ukraine will completely cripple logistics along the land corridor. Drone teams and hidden artillery with drone spotters are the modern equivalent of a WW1 machine gun nest. It's very hard to do a mass assault against it and it's not realistic that Ukraine will cripple this ability 100%. Massive scale maneuver warfare will be almost impossible even with logistic interdiction.
And they also have to breach the already prepared defensive line with minefields and fortifications.
And they need the troops to do it, which they probably do not have.

I think a best case scenario is more like this:

Ukraine manages to severely impact logistics to the south.
Russia is unable to counter with new technology.
Ukraine manages to secure a limited air superiority from poor logistics and hunting AA.
This creates extremely adverse battlefield conditions for Russia who would rather not fight in the south.
Ukraine uses elite brigades to take tactical victories in order for force resources into the south to alleviate pressure from other fronts.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see some kind of souther miracle in the near future. But Ukraine doesn't really need to aim for it either. They need conditions where there is a low volume of strikes on their logistics and negligible attacks on the frontline so they can preserve troops. And then they need to wait.
Latest article I read had Russia on 40% of their budget on the war, already blowing their planned deficit for this year and recommending non defence spending to cut 10% across the board.
If this continues and the war stalls out completely with even a minor victory by taking Donetsk out of reach it's just a matter of time.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
Sermokala
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United States14139 Posts
4 hours ago
#18602
Russia has a lot of Men and material that needs to be logistically supported, drones may be cheap but they require a lot to get all the way to the Kherson riverline. Artillery shells are notoriously nightmares to transport.

Not to mention the mountains of food and water and fuel that needs to go through a partially interdicted gap. If the kerch bridge goes down everything gets hard, if the land route becomes the all hands drone front of the war things will get extremly hard.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12093 Posts
19 minutes ago
#18603
On May 31 2026 09:14 Sermokala wrote:
Russia has a lot of Men and material that needs to be logistically supported, drones may be cheap but they require a lot to get all the way to the Kherson riverline. Artillery shells are notoriously nightmares to transport.

Not to mention the mountains of food and water and fuel that needs to go through a partially interdicted gap. If the kerch bridge goes down everything gets hard, if the land route becomes the all hands drone front of the war things will get extremly hard.


I think the more likely outcome if the interdiction gains strength is that people start dying in Crimea. Russia won't call a formal evacuation to lower the water and food requirements but civilians will be forced to leave the island.

Combined with that you get worse supplied troops in the south. But I honestly think it has been proven that with current tech offensives are stupid so Ukraine can't do much with it. Perhaps be happy that Russia stops hunting civilians with drones since they become too valuable on that front.
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