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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5891 Posts
June 12 2026 18:10 GMT
#18621
Yeah, and they maintain their frequency of long range strikes. I hope Russia won't be able to find a solution for a long time. Things are looking promising.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
June 12 2026 19:16 GMT
#18622
On June 13 2026 00:34 Yurie wrote:
Been seeing a lot of videos discussing Ukraine's mid range campaign. Hitting Crimea bridges, trains etc. If they can keep it up the southern front for Russia will hurt a lot.

The russian large convoys of trucks as well appearing. You would think that they would be done to minimize damage by collecting defences but the math of drones just makes it really dumb.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12178 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-13 05:46:26
June 13 2026 05:45 GMT
#18623
Convoys does seem to make sense to me. If you have good anti drone vehicles in that convoy. Else they just say send a lot of drones here, the enemy is spotted. If you cannot shoot down the drones it just paints a target. If you can shoot them down Ukraine needs to have a lot available to overwhelm at all times, which might make it more feasible when you don't have to defend everywhere.

The shot exchange problem is always hard but if you know where the platform you need to shoot down will be you can use shorter range and cheaper countermeasures. Problem seems to be that there isn't really any good countermeasures against drone swarms right now.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1853 Posts
June 15 2026 11:16 GMT
#18624
Since the start of the war and the column to the capital any massing of equipment has been extremely frowned upon. Back then it was Baryaktar drones and incredibly courageous teams with Javelins taking out leading and trailing videos and then dropping whatever was available on them.

Now, 5 years into the war Russians are so discombobulated and their logistics are so fucked that they are back at trying to take obvious routes with large concentrations of vehicles, with even more predictable outcomes.

In their blind rage, as even the resident doomers or propagandists like GH and Zeo fall silent, they are lashing out and directly targeting 1000 year old churches and invaluable museums.

All I can say is that the biggest joy I get out of this turn of events is that it was done after Trump cut off aid, after all the incredibly shitty "you don't have the cards" treatment that Zelenskyy got from this US regime working with Russians to try to make them give up incredibly hard fought pieces of their homeland, simply put, Putin's investment in Trump has failed to pay off in Ukraine, and I know it makes him and Trump absolutely furious.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24436 Posts
June 15 2026 16:40 GMT
#18625
On June 15 2026 20:16 Jankisa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Since the start of the war and the column to the capital any massing of equipment has been extremely frowned upon. Back then it was Baryaktar drones and incredibly courageous teams with Javelins taking out leading and trailing videos and then dropping whatever was available on them.

Now, 5 years into the war Russians are so discombobulated and their logistics are so fucked that they are back at trying to take obvious routes with large concentrations of vehicles, with even more predictable outcomes
.

In their blind rage, as even the resident doomers or propagandists like GH and Zeo fall silent, they are lashing out and directly targeting 1000 year old churches and invaluable museums.

+ Show Spoiler +
All I can say is that the biggest joy I get out of this turn of events is that it was done after Trump cut off aid, after all the incredibly shitty "you don't have the cards" treatment that Zelenskyy got from this US regime working with Russians to try to make them give up incredibly hard fought pieces of their homeland, simply put, Putin's investment in Trump has failed to pay off in Ukraine, and I know it makes him and Trump absolutely furious.

I don't know if you have a specific comment in mind or just a caricature you've created in your mind, but the thread is just generally inactive and I don't follow the minutiae.

If you're trying to get me to say that Ukraine and Europe have adapted to the US restructuring their support better than I expected that's fine. I also didn't consider Trump would basically continue the military aid at a premium (though it seems obvious in hindsight).

I'm probably still less confident than most that this will work out for Ukraine (an agreement that makes rebuilding Ukraine a wise investment for Western firms is still pretty far off afaict), but as far as I'm hearing (which admittedly isn't much), Ukraine seems to be holding their own and possibly a bit more. Kudos to em!
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44398 Posts
June 15 2026 19:16 GMT
#18626
Tankies when the tanks roll in: I sleep
Tankies when they catch stray bullets: This is an outrage
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
June 16 2026 14:44 GMT
#18627
On June 15 2026 20:16 Jankisa wrote:
Since the start of the war and the column to the capital any massing of equipment has been extremely frowned upon. Back then it was Baryaktar drones and incredibly courageous teams with Javelins taking out leading and trailing videos and then dropping whatever was available on them.

Now, 5 years into the war Russians are so discombobulated and their logistics are so fucked that they are back at trying to take obvious routes with large concentrations of vehicles, with even more predictable outcomes.

In their blind rage, as even the resident doomers or propagandists like GH and Zeo fall silent, they are lashing out and directly targeting 1000 year old churches and invaluable museums.

All I can say is that the biggest joy I get out of this turn of events is that it was done after Trump cut off aid, after all the incredibly shitty "you don't have the cards" treatment that Zelenskyy got from this US regime working with Russians to try to make them give up incredibly hard fought pieces of their homeland, simply put, Putin's investment in Trump has failed to pay off in Ukraine, and I know it makes him and Trump absolutely furious.


The irony is that the turn of events is still largely contributed to the US cutting starlink for the russian army, altough I'm not sure Trump had much contribution with that
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9332 Posts
June 16 2026 17:18 GMT
#18628
Lukashenko might not be last dictator in Europe but he's certainly the funniest one. Had a hard time finding an English source so maybe it's some misinformation or at least a bad translation, but if it isn't...

According to Lukashenko, at the start of the war "everyone understood that it would end in a quick Russian victory, mainly because the Russians were already in Kyiv," but "certain statesmen and forces asked Putin to stop, withdraw the troops from Kyiv and sign a peace agreement." He claimed that Putin agreed to withdraw because he wanted peace, but was misled. "Not for the first time, those forces cheated. It was the Vatican and, surprisingly, the Jewish lobby, the Israelis. They declared on Zelenskyy's behalf: That's it, we are going for peace, we agree. And others did too," he said.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2026/06/16/lukashenko-blames-jewish-lobby-for-russias-failure-in-ukraine/

lol. lmao
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12060 Posts
June 16 2026 19:22 GMT
#18629
On June 17 2026 02:18 Sent. wrote:
Lukashenko might not be last dictator in Europe but he's certainly the funniest one. Had a hard time finding an English source so maybe it's some misinformation or at least a bad translation, but if it isn't...

Show nested quote +
According to Lukashenko, at the start of the war "everyone understood that it would end in a quick Russian victory, mainly because the Russians were already in Kyiv," but "certain statesmen and forces asked Putin to stop, withdraw the troops from Kyiv and sign a peace agreement." He claimed that Putin agreed to withdraw because he wanted peace, but was misled. "Not for the first time, those forces cheated. It was the Vatican and, surprisingly, the Jewish lobby, the Israelis. They declared on Zelenskyy's behalf: That's it, we are going for peace, we agree. And others did too," he said.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2026/06/16/lukashenko-blames-jewish-lobby-for-russias-failure-in-ukraine/

lol. lmao


They probably used Evil Jewish Mind Control Rays to force Putin not to win the war easily, as he otherwise would have.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2622 Posts
June 16 2026 20:48 GMT
#18630
It’s always strange how they hate and blame the Jews , but also really want to denazify places.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12060 Posts
June 16 2026 20:52 GMT
#18631
On June 17 2026 05:48 Billyboy wrote:
It’s always strange how they hate and blame the Jews , but also really want to denazify places.


To be fair, it is possible to be an antisemite and also not a Nazi. Hating Jews is surprisingly popular in a variety of places. Being a small (and often rich) minority everywhere makes for juicy hate targets.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2622 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-16 22:09:13
June 16 2026 22:08 GMT
#18632
On June 17 2026 05:52 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2026 05:48 Billyboy wrote:
It’s always strange how they hate and blame the Jews , but also really want to denazify places.


To be fair, it is possible to be an antisemite and also not a Nazi. Hating Jews is surprisingly popular in a variety of places. Being a small (and often rich) minority everywhere makes for juicy hate targets.

True, but a far right authoritarian government that openly hates Jews, you’re knocking right on the door of Nazism. The wacky part is how many MAGA brains actually believe that Putin is fighting against it. But they also hate Jews and love the far right so WTF knows.

KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44398 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-17 02:44:55
June 17 2026 02:43 GMT
#18633
On June 17 2026 02:18 Sent. wrote:
Lukashenko might not be last dictator in Europe but he's certainly the funniest one. Had a hard time finding an English source so maybe it's some misinformation or at least a bad translation, but if it isn't...

Show nested quote +
According to Lukashenko, at the start of the war "everyone understood that it would end in a quick Russian victory, mainly because the Russians were already in Kyiv," but "certain statesmen and forces asked Putin to stop, withdraw the troops from Kyiv and sign a peace agreement." He claimed that Putin agreed to withdraw because he wanted peace, but was misled. "Not for the first time, those forces cheated. It was the Vatican and, surprisingly, the Jewish lobby, the Israelis. They declared on Zelenskyy's behalf: That's it, we are going for peace, we agree. And others did too," he said.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2026/06/16/lukashenko-blames-jewish-lobby-for-russias-failure-in-ukraine/

lol. lmao

Lukashenko will outlive Putin and possibly inherit the throne of the union state. I really feel like as much as we don’t like him we have to respect the game. He fully surrendered his country to Russia and somehow won. Russia is killing itself in this insane war while Luka insists with a straight face that the war is really against NATO and Belarus can’t spare a single man from their positions on the front lines. He’s dancing on the razor’s edge. Russia invaded through Belarus so they’re definitely in this war but Ukraine isn’t touching them. Meanwhile they’re selling refined oil products to Russia at a premium. He is just about the worst ally Russia has.

Had Belarus had a pro western leader their population would be getting raped and murdered by Russian troops. Had Belarus had a pro Russian leader their population would be getting droned in trenches. Their pro Lukashenko leader has found the perfect sweet spot.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7763 Posts
June 18 2026 11:36 GMT
#18634
Ukraine conducted a big drone attack today, hitting a refinery in Moscow. Results inlude a spectacular new addition to the russian explosive space program:

https://x.com/tendar/status/2067456010025918789?s=46&t=2_U1j1fQ8a8XmveJa6VnSQ
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
June 18 2026 12:06 GMT
#18635
On June 17 2026 05:52 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2026 05:48 Billyboy wrote:
It’s always strange how they hate and blame the Jews , but also really want to denazify places.


To be fair, it is possible to be an antisemite and also not a Nazi. Hating Jews is surprisingly popular in a variety of places. Being a small (and often rich) minority everywhere makes for juicy hate targets.


A little bit off-topic: Antisemitism is something I have never understood. I don't even know how you get there and how to find a target for your hate.

I understand racism. People look different than you, speak another language. They are "the others" and I guess it is pretty normal to be wary of the unknown. It is not a huge step from that uneasy feeling to a misguided ideology.

I have never in my life looked at someone and thought: "This must be a jew". I recognize that some last names are most likely jewish, but I don't ask for last names when I get to know someone. I also have never seen someone rich and thought to myself "probably a jew". And I won't entertain the nose-stereotype, that is plain evil.

I am just blind to certain societal things, I don't know why. But specifically here in Germany, where antisemitism obviously is a problem... I don't even know how I could possibly get there.
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3425 Posts
June 18 2026 13:26 GMT
#18636
Basically every kind of otherization that isn't directly based on someone's explicit political alignment is irrational. But most people don't have the vocabulary to explain their suffering, and so their desperate unhappiness is just as desperate to find someone to blame for it.
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0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4654 Posts
June 18 2026 13:44 GMT
#18637
I think this is the wrong topic to discuss this, I don't understand it either.
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4654 Posts
June 18 2026 13:45 GMT
#18638
On June 18 2026 20:36 PoulsenB wrote:
Ukraine conducted a big drone attack today, hitting a refinery in Moscow. Results inlude a spectacular new addition to the russian explosive space program:

https://x.com/tendar/status/2067456010025918789?s=46&t=2_U1j1fQ8a8XmveJa6VnSQ


Lol that zoom showed something really unexpected...
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12060 Posts
June 18 2026 13:58 GMT
#18639
On June 18 2026 21:06 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2026 05:52 Simberto wrote:
On June 17 2026 05:48 Billyboy wrote:
It’s always strange how they hate and blame the Jews , but also really want to denazify places.


To be fair, it is possible to be an antisemite and also not a Nazi. Hating Jews is surprisingly popular in a variety of places. Being a small (and often rich) minority everywhere makes for juicy hate targets.


A little bit off-topic: Antisemitism is something I have never understood. I don't even know how you get there and how to find a target for your hate.

I understand racism. People look different than you, speak another language. They are "the others" and I guess it is pretty normal to be wary of the unknown. It is not a huge step from that uneasy feeling to a misguided ideology.

I have never in my life looked at someone and thought: "This must be a jew". I recognize that some last names are most likely jewish, but I don't ask for last names when I get to know someone. I also have never seen someone rich and thought to myself "probably a jew". And I won't entertain the nose-stereotype, that is plain evil.

I am just blind to certain societal things, I don't know why. But specifically here in Germany, where antisemitism obviously is a problem... I don't even know how I could possibly get there.


People are really good at detecting otherness.

Jews have their own language, don't go to church like normal people, meet in secret with all the other Jews to do weird rituals (and with no other people!) and no one knows exactly what they do. They have all those customs, and they know all the other Jews and probably conspire with them.

They are different in a less obvious way than foreigners, which makes them even more scary, because that must mean that they try to trick you.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44398 Posts
June 18 2026 14:28 GMT
#18640
On June 18 2026 20:36 PoulsenB wrote:
Ukraine conducted a big drone attack today, hitting a refinery in Moscow. Results inlude a spectacular new addition to the russian explosive space program:

https://x.com/tendar/status/2067456010025918789?s=46&t=2_U1j1fQ8a8XmveJa6VnSQ

“I’ve seen a Russian tank launched into the air a hundred times what makes thi… oh… yeah… okay”
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