Russo-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 898

On November 28 2025 14:56 ETisME wrote:
some common grounds are being identified now

On November 28 2025 17:01 RvB wrote:

Almost everything I've read says at least two years not one. Any sources for that timeline?

On November 28 2025 18:11 KwarK wrote:

Common ground between Russia and the surrender agreement that Russia dictated is to be expected.

On November 28 2025 10:22 ETisME wrote:

Hard to say why but I reckon they just want to reshuffle the population on the outskirts of Russia to "resist some of the cultural social changes" from the west

Look at Mariupol, it's been reshaped as a strictly very Russian cities. And similarly, a lot of populations been moved around in occupied territories to make it more Russian

On November 28 2025 18:55 zeo wrote:

This is one of the more illogical cope narratives being pushed - the seething over cities being rebuilt and people coming back to them. When rebuilding damaged civilian apartments is being peddled as a war crime you know its a slow news day. Kiev hadn't invested anything into infrastructure or modernisation for decades and just building new things doesn't mean its 'Russian architecture', what are they supposed to do? Build commie blocks so it looks like the rest of Kiev controlled Ukraine?

Millions of Ukrainian civilians fled to Russia from 2014 and since 2022. If there is new housing being built in Mariupol and other parts of what was formerly Ukraine I don't see what the problem is with Ukrainian passport holders being given incentives to move there or people from Mariupol moving back to their homes.

On November 28 2025 18:19 ETisME wrote:

It won't be in English. It's from several Taiwanese military analysts pages.

Not this one in particular but to give you a rough idea.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/17qKZv9hkw/

Their post on the glide bombs are crucial, because it directly translate russia superior air dominance into safe strategic purpose.
Not only is Ukraine has notl real means to define the existing ones, Russia is already on an improved version like umpb d-30sn.

These will shell shock any Ukraine defense teams into unable to do sustain prolonged war. Further worsening the lack of manpower issue.
Loss of pokrovsk also unstablised a lot of areas, making it spread even more thin.

Also just to expand on glide bomb vs jamming, it looks like the more anti jamming are on the glide bombs, it is multiples harder to set up strong enough jamming.

Based off latest image, the on target accuracy is roughly 30%, but many are close enough to have shellshock effect.

On November 28 2025 20:31 Manit0u wrote:


Glide bombs are the only advantage Russia has at the moment but it's not crucial at the front because the war hes evolved. There is no "frontline" in the common sense, Ukraine has hidden lookout posts with very few soldiers in them, not engaging and only reporting, spread every few kilometers. Then some foot patrols composed of very small squads. Russia on the other hand is trying to infiltrate small groups of soldiers through those, gather at the rear and secure positions.

Russians managed to use bad weather (halting drone operations) to capture some more of Pokrovsk but still the probability of them capturing it by the end of this year is 50/50 at best. Capturing whole of Donetsk within one more year is pretty much an impossible task for the Russians since they are getting more and more problems on their own turf, desertion rates are huge and conscription isn't going as well (sign on bonuses fell from 4 million to a few hundred thousand if they are being paid at all since over half of the Russian regions are now reporting budget deficits). So, Russia is facing increasing problems with replenishing and sustaining its army and Kramatorsk aglomeration is much larger and better defended than Pokrovsk. If it took Russia 1.5 years to still not fully capture Pokrovsk how long do you feel it would take them to capture a tougher target when they have less resources?

Putin was really banking on this "peace deal" Russia has pushed since capturing Donetsk was one of the primary goals for this "special operation". If they fail to capture it then it means defeat. They were hoping to get this deal done so they could get it without a fight and use the extra time to rebuild for another invasion. Unfortunately for Putin though Ukrainian people and military made it clear that if Russia can't capture Donetsk by itself they sure won't give it to them for free (their stance is - if you can't take it, we won't give it to you).

Edit:

To put it differently. In 4 years Russia didn't manage to capture even half of Donetsk. What makes you think that they can capture all of it within 1 more year?

On November 28 2025 22:37 ETisME wrote:
Just as Ukraine is holding off and killing as efficient as possible, buying time for next defensive position, russians are taking their time to slow encirclement to bait more counter attacks from Ukraine side.

Myrnohrad is a total disaster, with several counter attack attempts got wiped and basically one way trip. And now its pretty much encircled entirely.
Repeated number is up to 2000 Ukrainian soldiers over there.

Don't expect the war to go on in linear fashion. It's a battle of strength until cracks start leaking. Pokrovisk is a big one.

On November 29 2025 02:11 Jankisa wrote:
Interesting news coming out of Ukraine. Andrii Yermak, Zelenskyy's head of office resigned today after NABU (the anti-corruption body mandated by the EU that almost got shut down but Zelenskyy reversed the decision after protests) raided his apartment, so the guy seems to be involved in some corrupt shit, the investigation was a long one so I doubt they'd go in for someone this high up if they didn't have oodles of evidence.

This is good! I'm guessing he was behind the attempt to get NABU shut down, he failed and now they got him, as a contrast, I'm sure no one can even imagine an independent anti-corruption body taking down someone who is basically one of Putin's top confidants.

I'm sure the usual suspects will come over to tell us this is proof Ukraine is corrupt, to me, it's the proof of opposite, it's a country that is aware of it's corruption problem and dealing with it.

I can't wait for them to join us in EU so we can all laugh at the Russians who couldn't believe how even small towns and villages in Ukraine have indoor plumbing and paved roads, and that was before any real money came their way.

On November 29 2025 01:03 Manit0u wrote:


So, 2000 Ukrainian soldiers are able to hold off 50000+ Russian soldiers for 1.5 years. This sure does sound terrible..
Why are you worried about their lives so much when Russia is losing 30000 soldiers every month?

Also, Pokrovsk is not a big one, there's nothing there apart from some soldiers trying to stall Russia's advances - no critical infrastructure, no production facilities, nothing. It's not even half the size of Kramatorsk that's been preparing for this the entire war and it's the next big obstacle for Russia in Donetsk (and they haven't even started approaching it yet).

The onus here is on Russia to somehow prove they can take the rest of Donetsk so rapidly that the Ukrainians have to surrender it. So far they haven't proven they're capable of doing that.


This map shows Russian gains in the last 12 months.

Sure looks like Russia is on its way to capture all of Ukraine soon...

On November 29 2025 02:11 Jankisa wrote:
Interesting news coming out of Ukraine. Andrii Yermak, Zelenskyy's head of office resigned today after NABU (the anti-corruption body mandated by the EU that almost got shut down but Zelenskyy reversed the decision after protests) raided his apartment, so the guy seems to be involved in some corrupt shit, the investigation was a long one so I doubt they'd go in for someone this high up if they didn't have oodles of evidence.

This is good! I'm guessing he was behind the attempt to get NABU shut down, he failed and now they got him, as a contrast, I'm sure no one can even imagine an independent anti-corruption body taking down someone who is basically one of Putin's top confidants.

I'm sure the usual suspects will come over to tell us this is proof Ukraine is corrupt, to me, it's the proof of opposite, it's a country that is aware of it's corruption problem and dealing with it.

I can't wait for them to join us in EU so we can all laugh at the Russians who couldn't believe how even small towns and villages in Ukraine have indoor plumbing and paved roads, and that was before any real money came their way.

On November 29 2025 07:40 ETisME wrote:

I am talking about myrnohrad.
Look up high way of death.
Not to mention Ukraine is likely losing their elite units like 38 bridage over there. Ukraine army is largely depending on them.

Pokrovsk is strategically important, not just the infrastructure but the position now destabilize a lot of front lines elsewhere

On November 29 2025 02:22 Acrofales wrote:

That's fair. Putin's top confidantes tend to fall out of windows before investigations even get started!

On November 29 2025 02:11 Jankisa wrote:
Interesting news coming out of Ukraine. Andrii Yermak, Zelenskyy's head of office resigned today after NABU (the anti-corruption body mandated by the EU that almost got shut down but Zelenskyy reversed the decision after protests) raided his apartment, so the guy seems to be involved in some corrupt shit, the investigation was a long one so I doubt they'd go in for someone this high up if they didn't have oodles of evidence.

This is good! I'm guessing he was behind the attempt to get NABU shut down, he failed and now they got him, as a contrast, I'm sure no one can even imagine an independent anti-corruption body taking down someone who is basically one of Putin's top confidants.