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{CC}StealthBlue
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
I think this serves as a good example of what the reality is at the front right now. Russia is digging in by building defense lines and Ukraine is trying to prevent this. This is North of Bakhmut, so I'm guessing similar scenarios have been unfolding in both regions. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17786 Posts
I wonder how real is that? Starlink access with mobility module costs about $125/mo yet SpaceX claims it costs them $4500/mo and wants to get this money out of Pentagon. | ||
KwarK
United States44181 Posts
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datscilly
United States529 Posts
On October 18 2022 03:14 Manit0u wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qGg6wiXoSc I wonder how real is that? Starlink access with mobility module costs about $125/mo yet SpaceX claims it costs them $4500/mo and wants to get this money out of Pentagon. Part of that is clickbait; while the highest tier of service does cost $4500-$5000/mo, the average cost per terminal (for Ukraine, presumably) is only $800. [1] The other part of it is the cost of tech support for reliability and uptime in a war zone.. is definitely worth $4500/mo for certain vital connections. [2] [3] | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
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r00ty
Germany1080 Posts
On October 18 2022 15:35 Magic Powers wrote: This actually happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLBfUbYWMWM The first official statement does not make any sense, who would have thought. They say he had engine problems right after starting for a practice flight. Why pilot into a residential area then? The pilot ejected btw. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Ardias
Russian Federation618 Posts
On October 18 2022 15:56 r00ty wrote: The first official statement does not make any sense, who would have thought. They say he had engine problems right after starting for a practice flight. Why pilot into a residential area then? The pilot ejected btw. + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfmaIj9paGI If you check satellite map of Yeysk, you would see that residential area starts shortly after the airstrip. Point of impact is few hundred meters from the sea, so pilot most likely was trying to fly the plane into the sea, but did not manage to do so. The fact that he ejected few seconds before the impact, and landed like in 200 meters from impact site speaks for that as well. https://t.me/milinfolive/92112 Why exactly the bomber was going up in that particular direction - I don't know, could be wind conditions, could be other planes getting to land from another end of the airstrip. Why there is even residential area in the way of airstrip - question to the city officials who were giving permissions for build up. AFAIK a lot of the residential buildings in the area in question were built right before or after the fall of Soviet Union, when private developers took over the state-funded build-up and corruption went rampant, so safety provisions could be ignored. Or the airfield itself could be taken out of service, and then reanimated after the area was built up already, but this requires additional reading into the matter. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1080 Posts
On October 18 2022 17:01 Ardias wrote: If you check satellite map of Yeysk, you would see that residential area starts shortly after the airstrip. Point of impact is few hundred meters from the sea, so pilot most likely was trying to fly the plane into the sea, but did not manage to do so. The fact that he ejected few seconds before the impact, and landed like in 200 meters from impact site speaks for that as well. https://t.me/milinfolive/92112 Why exactly the bomber was going up in that particular direction - I don't know, could be wind conditions, could be other planes getting to land from another end of the airstrip. Why there is even residential area in the way of airstrip - question to the city officials who were giving permissions for build up. AFAIK a lot of the residential buildings in the area in question were built right before or after the fall of Soviet Union, when private developers took over the state-funded build-up and corruption went rampant, so safety provisions could be ignored. Or the airfield itself could be taken out of service, and then reanimated after the area was built up already, but this requires additional reading into the matter. Thanks for clarifying, don't wanna be in the pilots shoes. Hopefully the numberof of victims will be low, the house looked very lively though. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17786 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7303 Posts
On October 17 2022 05:29 Artesimo wrote: Yes, as I have pretty much said in the last sentence of the first paragraph. You either don't do sunk cost fallacy or you do. But 'they already spend so much' still is not a convincing argument, which was the whole point. Of my post. Sometimes it happens, other times it doesn't, its only really good as a post hoc rationalisation rather than a prediction for if support continues or not. I think in terms of sunk cost fallacy, Russia is much more committed since they spend huge amounts of money and lives on this war. EU / USA on the other hand only spend some budgeted taxpayer money. Also there is a difference if it's your own money or someone elses. That's why gambling is a dangerous addiction. That said, there is no reason for the West to stop financing this, especially for USA. IMO they happily would spend 2$ for every 1$ Russia has to spend just to ruin them. At least that is my impression | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser on Tuesday dismissed the head of the BSI national cyber security agency, Arne Schönbohm. Schönbohm was removed from his role as head of the BSI national cyber security agency after media report that he had links with people involved with Russian intelligence services. The sacking was first reported by the news magazine, Spiegel, and later confirmed by an interior ministry spokesperson. Faeser was reportedly concerned about Schönbohm's continued contact with an association called the Cyber Security Council of Germany. The cyber chief helped set up the group just over 10 years ago, but the organization has recently come under fire recently for its links to Russian intelligence. It's thought that the attendance of Schönbohm at the group's anniversary celebrations last month brought matters to a head. Source | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/18/europe/russia-ukraine-power-stations-energy-attacks-intl/index.html | ||
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Simberto
Germany11921 Posts
On October 19 2022 03:32 Mohdoo wrote: After all of this weapons testing in Ukraine, the US is gonna be like "Wait, we could have just taken over the whole planet like 20 years ago lol" I doubt it. They had their lesson in Afghanistan and Iraq that winning against the military isn't enough. | ||
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria870 Posts
On October 19 2022 03:32 Mohdoo wrote: After all of this weapons testing in Ukraine, the US is gonna be like "Wait, we could have just taken over the whole planet like 20 years ago lol" If suddenly nuclear weapons disappeared... On that topic, US officials (?) who gave nuclear secrets to soviets to "balance power" aren't exactly black or white anymore. Since you have insane people like Putin who like nuclear threats, it's not just about balance of power. Imagine Hitler in the 21st century with nuclear weapons, it's a lot harder to punish such people. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
Can anyone explain this? | ||
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pmh
1416 Posts
On October 19 2022 14:48 Magic Powers wrote: I've been thinking why the missile bombardment of civilian infrastructure has stopped if evidently they have destroyed so many power stations. There's no chance that this was purely an act of retaliation, I even think that was probably the lowest of priorities. They must've been trying to cause serious damage for strategic gain. So why stop at 30%? Why not aim for even more destruction of energy supply? Is it because Russia doesn't have enough missiles? Or did someone of relevance somehow come to believe that this wouldn't improve their chances? Can anyone explain this? It seems they are having technical issues with the drones. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/18/us/politics/iran-drones-russia-ukraine.html | ||
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