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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
December 08 2021 08:20 GMT
#521
On December 08 2021 09:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
a good economy is better protection for workers than a good union.

Protection from what?
passive quaranstream fan
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26603 Posts
December 08 2021 10:38 GMT
#522
Unions don’t just exist to strike when management are being shits anyway, they do all sorts of other things.

Some of more use in other industries than others. Least our one offers various perks on private healthcare, training programs in digital literacy, legal aid for members for issues outside company matters etc.

They aren’t just a bulwark against the company in disputes, they can provide support to workers where there’s no disputes at all.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
December 09 2021 14:27 GMT
#523
I also want to point out that when someone is the victim of a volatile industry characterized by shitty management and a pervading air of sexual harassment, abuse, and discrimination, without unions or any other power to advocate for themselves, and they lose their job, then maybe yeah, they're a victim? Of a lot of things? Maybe billionaires aren't benevolent gods after all? Gee.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-09 14:35:33
December 09 2021 14:32 GMT
#524
In June 2020, an article was published which highlighted the abuse, harassment and discrimination that occurred within Activision-Blizzard's offices. Since then, Activision-Blizzard leaders have continually abused, union-busted, and remained apathetic to the wishes of workers.

In the months since, we've seen CEO Bobby Kotick and the Board of Directors protect abusers and only hold perpetrators accountable after the events were brought to light by outside media. We've seen Activision hire law firm WilmerHale, known for union busting, to disrupt and impede the improvement efforts of Activision-Blizzard workers. We've seen Raven Software workers lured by the promise of promotion, only to be terminated shortly after relocation on top of the already underappreciated and severely underpaid working conditions of ABK workers across the company. These, and many other events have caused an alliance of Activision-Blizzard employees to initiate a work stoppage until demands are met and worker representation is finally given a place within the company.

After everything, the Board of Directors still claims to remain confident in Kotick's unfit and unproductive leadership. The Board of Directors includes: Reveta Bowers, Robert Corti, Hendrik Hartong III, Brian Kelly, Bobby Kotick, Barry Meyer, Robert Morgado, Peter Nolan, Dawn Ostroff, Casey Wasserman.


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-09 15:01:41
December 09 2021 14:58 GMT
#525
OH MY GOD ITS FINALLY HAPPENING!

Bobby Kotick greatest game CEO in history, did his best to push for unionization, everyone praise Bobby Kotick, without him we might not see unionization in the games industry!

Yesssssssssss.

MAN THATS GOOD, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET THIS BE A SERIOUS STRIKE THAT GETS LOTS OF MEDIA ATTENTION. I want every game CEO to piss their pants and give Bobby Kotick deathstares when they see him in their local cocaine sex clubs.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 09 2021 17:36 GMT
#526
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17456 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-10 03:14:45
December 10 2021 00:19 GMT
#527
On December 08 2021 17:20 Artisreal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2021 09:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
a good economy is better protection for workers than a good union.

Protection from what?

The management structure under which the worker exists.

On December 09 2021 23:27 NewSunshine wrote:
I also want to point out that when someone is the victim of a volatile industry characterized by shitty management and a pervading air of sexual harassment, abuse, and discrimination, without unions or any other power to advocate for themselves, and they lose their job, then maybe yeah, they're a victim? Of a lot of things? Maybe billionaires aren't benevolent gods after all? Gee.

You realize that lying is legal in the USA right? its called "puffing". Almost all job recruiters frame the prospective job as some great job when it rarely is.

Maybe its just the Canadian in me... but I just don't trust loud-mouthed Americans making grandiose promises. So I don't fall for this BS. I guess some people fall for the BS and then label themselves as victims.

Any how.

puffing
n. the exaggeration of the good points of a product, a business, real property, and the prospects for future rise in value, profits and growth. Since a certain amount of "puffing" can be expected of any salesman, it cannot be the basis of a lawsuit for fraud or breach of contract unless the exaggeration exceeds the reality. However, if the puffery includes outright lies or has no basis in fact ("Sears Roebuck is building next door to your store site") a legal action for rescission of the contract or for fraud against the seller is possible. (See: fraud)


What do you do when you find out your dream job is actually garbage? You do what Gonzalez did ... you leave for a better job.

These are professionally employed adults who voluntarily chose to enter the job. These are not 3 year olds being napalmed by the local dictator. They live in a very rich, first world country. Canadian software developers flock to the USA for all the great work. The work is better than in Canada and it pays better.

Everyone I know who steps into a new job realizes they are on probation for the first three months and anything can get them fired. It says that type of thing in the "Terms of Employment" you have to sign. So, new hires are fully prepared to instantly BOLT if things go bad. THat's why, when you are leaving your present job you do so under cordial and diplomatic terms. This gives you options if the new job goes bad.

I now have my own company , but when I moved from permanent full time to hired gun I always made sure all my former employers were happy. So did all my classmates. This is common sense stuff. Due to laziness and lack of discipline a few people do choose to paint their own careers into a corner. When they do that's on them.

In conclusion, I do not view the 9,000 ATVI employees as helpless victims. They've got lots of options. The gaming media loves to paint everyone as helpless victims living under horrific circumstances. Bad news is great for views. Source: www.youtube.com

I have far more sympathy for medical front liners during this pandemic. The nurses, DRs, lab techs, and everyone else making front line contact with patients who are contagious are real heroes working under real life and death circumstances. And their plight is being ignored.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadian-nurses-are-leaving-in-droves-worn-down-by-16-merciless-months/

You want to see some real suffering... head to a packed ICU where the DRs are rationing off access to life saving medical treatments.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4750 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-10 10:01:00
December 10 2021 10:00 GMT
#528
You do know that labor laws around the world differ greatly? The US has some of the worst in the western world. Just because the things are certain way, doesnt mean they SHOULD be this way. Also there is especially large room for improvemnt in game dev (not just in US).
Pathetic Greta hater.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 10 2021 10:12 GMT
#529
You do what Gonzalez did ...


Help organize ABK and start their strike fund!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-10 15:33:36
December 10 2021 15:32 GMT
#530
Jimmy, I'm not talking about lying. I'm talking about sexual harassment, assault, and discrimination. Victims are victims. Cut the victim blaming or shut the fuck up.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26603 Posts
December 10 2021 15:50 GMT
#531
Ah the swivel to ‘other folks have it worse’

Which, incidentally is a prominent topic and gripe for many people, least over here anyway. There’s space in at least most people’s hearts and minds for caring about multiple issues.

Sure healthcare workers can get another job if they don’t like the conditions anyway?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8249 Posts
December 10 2021 16:23 GMT
#532
On December 11 2021 00:50 WombaT wrote:
Ah the swivel to ‘other folks have it worse’

Which, incidentally is a prominent topic and gripe for many people, least over here anyway. There’s space in at least most people’s hearts and minds for caring about multiple issues.

Sure healthcare workers can get another job if they don’t like the conditions anyway?


Honestly, people are starving in Syria. So why even bother improving any aspect of anyone's lives? + Show Spoiler +
/s
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 11 2021 03:58 GMT
#533
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
December 11 2021 04:23 GMT
#534
Yeah, that's a pretty fucked up message to send. You could join a union, but make sure you consider all the ways you're going to be punished if you do! Everything will be terrible!

Funny how that only seems to be the story when you're listening to companies that are trying desperately to avoid unions. Also wouldn't be surprised if this was another shitty email that Bobby wrote and told someone else to send for him.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11800 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-11 09:23:15
December 11 2021 09:20 GMT
#535
Also, that language "You are signing a legal document!!!!Think about how scary that is!!!! A legally binding document!!!! But of course we totally support your legal right to do so"

Can you not just leave the union if you don't like it? It is not like you get put into union jail forever.

Also, pretty sure that nothing is stopping that positive culture they claim to have. If a worker has a problem, tells the manager, and the manager just fixes the problem, that can still happen and no one will complain. Unions only get involved if the problem doesn't get fixed.

When a company tells you that not joining a union is good for you is a very important sign that you should join a union as fast as possible.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-11 18:50:08
December 11 2021 18:33 GMT
#536


So much for her commitment to collective action at ABK, eh? Now that she doesn't have to worry about retaliation for speaking up and organizing, her enthusiasm for the effort has only increased. That in and of itself shows everyone why unions are so important.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-11 19:19:20
December 11 2021 19:19 GMT
#537
Egads, but she LEFT ActiBlizz? Are you trying to tell me its possible for someone to support something from the outside? Are you trying to enter the thought into my brain that someone can just... leave a job, a holy sacred job, and yet still work with and support former coworkers from outside of the corporation?!

Blasphemy. Insanity. Madness. I didn't think it possible.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 11 2021 22:13 GMT
#538
On December 12 2021 04:19 Zambrah wrote:
Egads, but she LEFT ActiBlizz? Are you trying to tell me its possible for someone to support something from the outside? Are you trying to enter the thought into my brain that someone can just... leave a job, a holy sacred job, and yet still work with and support former coworkers from outside of the corporation?!

Blasphemy. Insanity. Madness. I didn't think it possible.

Wait, you can help people even when that doesnt directly benefits you ? Some americans are going to throw up at this idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26603 Posts
December 11 2021 22:24 GMT
#539
On December 12 2021 07:13 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2021 04:19 Zambrah wrote:
Egads, but she LEFT ActiBlizz? Are you trying to tell me its possible for someone to support something from the outside? Are you trying to enter the thought into my brain that someone can just... leave a job, a holy sacred job, and yet still work with and support former coworkers from outside of the corporation?!

Blasphemy. Insanity. Madness. I didn't think it possible.

Wait, you can help people even when that doesnt directly benefits you ? Some americans are going to throw up at this idea

Nobody tell Jimmy Raynor this, it would be too much of a shock to the system.

It’s better when people just leave jobs if there’s unacceptable conduct exhibited. Also Bobby Kotick is a genius
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 17 2022 19:19 GMT
#540
Several dozen Activision Blizzard workers remain on strike, while management has not met their demands to reinstate 12 contractors at Activision Blizzard-owned developer Raven Software who were laid off in December. Most of the contractors are quality assurance testers working on various Call of Duty titles.

In particular, Raven Software workers, tasked with checking for bugs and glitches in “Call of Duty: Warzone,” have stopped work for over seven weeks, multiple current employees told The Washington Post. Their absence comes at a time when numerous “Warzone” players, ranging from popular streamers to amateur gamers, have railed about the current state of that game on Reddit and social media, including citing game-breaking bugs, or issues that severely hamper gameplay.

“You can’t leave your game broken for a month. You’re going to lose a lot of players,” said James “JGOD” Godoy, a Call of Duty streamer, in a recent YouTube video. In the Dec. 29 video, he discussed the impact of Raven Software employees taking leave for the holidays while the game remained buggy.

The strike began Dec. 6, when over 60 Raven Software workers walked out in protest of their parent company laying off 12 of the studio’s quality assurance testers. It’s Activision Blizzard’s third work stoppage in six months since Activision Blizzard was sued in late July over sexual harassment and misconduct claims.

On Dec. 7, at least 200 Activision Blizzard workers across the company’s various studios walked out of work. As part of the current strike, which has no set end date according to those involved, workers have demanded that the company reverses the December layoffs and that all Raven quality assurance contractors receive full-time positions.

Activision Blizzard has not responded to employees’ demands, the employees said, although it sent out a letter to employees the same week the strike began to advise them “to consider the consequences” of signing union authorization cards. Unionization efforts are underway at the company, with employees pushing for a majority of signed cards so they can hold a vote on forming a union. In the meantime, over a dozen Minnesota-based workers were asked to work more closely with Raven developers on “Warzone.” Some had interpreted the request as Activision recruiting “scabs,” or strikebreakers, current employees told The Post.

“A lot of people felt upset that they were being asked to replace those who were let go,” said a current quality assurance tester for Activision in Minnesota, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation.

Xbox and Lego have publicly said they are reconsidering their relationships with Activision Blizzard after allegations about a toxic corporate culture and sexual harassment came to light. Activision Blizzard did not respond when reached for comment on the companies’ announcements.

Activision Blizzard shared a statement with The Post on Jan. 5: “Activision is deeply committed to the well-being of all of our teams, including our QA workforce. Raven leadership has engaged in dialogue with its staff to hear concerns and explain the company’s overall investment in development resources.”

The statement also said Activision Blizzard would help any of the 12 laid off workers that might need relocation assistance.

“The reason the games are buggier is definitely due to the strike,” said a second quality assurance tester, currently on strike, who added that normally, massive bugs would be caught by quality assurance testers before making it to a live version of the game. “You can’t just lose some of your hardest working people and expect nothing to happen.”

Gamers playing “Call of Duty: Warzone” have noted that the game is filled with bugs that have diminished their enjoyment of playing it. Speaking to The Post, players also said they believe that cheaters are running rampant in game lobbies, despite the game introducing an anti-cheat software, which launched last year.

On Jan. 4, Activision sued EngineOwning, a Germany-based business that sells Call of Duty cheats, asking the court to stop the sale of software that provided players with in-game cheats.

Twitch streamers and YouTubers have recently posted a number of videos demonstrating their frustrations with glitches and the overall state of “Warzone.”

Some of the players who spoke with The Post said they were aware of the ongoing strike and voiced support for the workers, while others had not heard of the situation.

“It makes it even harder to support a game when Activision’s harassment issues toward women led to major walkout several months ago,” said Mondo Garvey, 25, who works for a construction company in Georgia. “And now with them laying off many of Raven’s employees and Raven workers going on strike, both companies are in shambles and the light at the end of the tunnel seems a lot dimmer.”

Shaylor Bemis, 28, a forklift driver and Call of Duty player from Ohio, said that while “Warzone” has had bugs since its March 2020 launch, the game has recently been plagued with more noticeable issues like an in-game cosmetic that turned players invisible, the game freezing when played on console systems and requiring players to restart, and guns that won’t work after players pick them up.

“It is very frustrating. I’m playing the game at my leisure. I play the game to blow off steam and stress and talk to some friends. I am not playing the game to be JGOD or Ice Man Isaac or trying to be part of Faze [Clan],” said Bemis, referencing popular “Warzone” content creators. “It’s almost at the point where the game is unplayable, and that outlet for me will be taken away from me.”

Asked about the issues, a spokesperson for Activision Blizzard referred to the company’s previous statement about Raven Software and noted a pair of recent posts on the state of work on Call of Duty games. On Jan. 13, the official “Call of Duty” account tweeted that teams were working on bugs and glitches across “Vanguard,” “Warzone” and “Modern Warfare.” It said it was aware of the invisible skins in “Warzone.”

Raven Software tweeted on Jan. 11 about a midseason update, adding: “These fixes are the first in a series and will not address all concerns at once. We appreciate your patience as we work on providing everyone with a fun, uninterrupted time in Caldera.”

“Things are still kind of broken,” said Jason “FaZe Jev” Eugene, who is known for his “Call of Duty” videos, in a Jan. 13 video about “Warzone,” which noted that in-game cosmetics he owns for weapons are still not showing up in the game. “We spent the last two months waiting for that camo to get fixed.”


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