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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 15:49:24
January 18 2022 15:39 GMT
#561


edit: Don't think CNBC will upload the interview with Kotick, and Phil Spencer. Sucks.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 16:01:52
January 18 2022 16:01 GMT
#562
On January 19 2022 00:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
edit: Don't think CNBC will upload the interview with Kotick, and Phil Spencer. Sucks.

don't worry, it'll be on twitch in a "reaction video".
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
January 18 2022 16:11 GMT
#563
I'm sure having all the companies merged together under Microsoft's massive umbrella will only increase accountability, and that we won't see a barrage of honeyed statements from Microsoft about how this is really just wonderful, and that things won't just go back to business as usual for the employees at Blizzard and their victims.

I'm being sarcastic, if it's not obvious. This is a giant fuck you to everyone who moved, marched, and spoke up about the horrifying things that Blizzard and Activision were doing. Great news, everyone.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 18 2022 16:14 GMT
#564


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 18 2022 16:31 GMT
#565
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 16:42:53
January 18 2022 16:31 GMT
#566
in the CNBC interview "Bobby" has got a can of Coke beside him. ROFLMAO.
On January 19 2022 01:11 NewSunshine wrote:
This is a giant fuck you to everyone who moved, marched, and spoke up about the horrifying things that Blizzard and Activision were doing. Great news, everyone.

And, the state of California was in the process of fucking over any possible "victims" by their silly legal over reach. California's DFEH is more interested in scoring big headlines than helping out average workers.

Any how , the moral of this story is : don't rely on government bodies to improve your working life. Go out and find other work. Stand up to chance. Bet On Your$elf. Waiting for the state of California to make one's life right is a waste of time, energy, and it diminishes one's self esteem.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
January 18 2022 17:11 GMT
#567
Jimmy, I know this is probably the 90,000th time I'm explaining this to you, but they're not "victims", they're victims. If you can't grasp that much, and you'd rather spend your time downplaying what they did, I'd rather spend my time not discussing the matter with you. They weren't just kind of a dick to people, they harassed and abused their employees.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7298 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 17:29:01
January 18 2022 17:25 GMT
#568
On January 19 2022 01:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
in the CNBC interview "Bobby" has got a can of Coke beside him. ROFLMAO.
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 01:11 NewSunshine wrote:
This is a giant fuck you to everyone who moved, marched, and spoke up about the horrifying things that Blizzard and Activision were doing. Great news, everyone.

And, the state of California was in the process of fucking over any possible "victims" by their silly legal over reach. California's DFEH is more interested in scoring big headlines than helping out average workers.

Any how , the moral of this story is : don't rely on government bodies to improve your working life. Go out and unionize.


Sorry, you had some nonsensical bullshit smeared there, I got rid of it for you.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 19:05:18
January 18 2022 19:02 GMT
#569


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
January 18 2022 19:48 GMT
#570
Oh my goodness, please let go of the old, venerable name of Blizzard and let it rest in peace. In addition to churning out crap they are now owned by Microsoft, good lord.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 21:47:10
January 18 2022 21:41 GMT
#571
On January 19 2022 02:11 NewSunshine wrote:
Jimmy, I know this is probably the 90,000th time I'm explaining this to you, but they're not "victims", they're victims. If you can't grasp that much, and you'd rather spend your time downplaying what they did, I'd rather spend my time not discussing the matter with you. They weren't just kind of a dick to people, they harassed and abused their employees.

meh, I've offered a remedy not post after post of polemics. They should do what Jennifer Gonzalez did and leave.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 18 2022 21:49 GMT
#572
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 21:58:50
January 18 2022 21:57 GMT
#573
On January 19 2022 06:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 02:11 NewSunshine wrote:
Jimmy, I know this is probably the 90,000th time I'm explaining this to you, but they're not "victims", they're victims. If you can't grasp that much, and you'd rather spend your time downplaying what they did, I'd rather spend my time not discussing the matter with you. They weren't just kind of a dick to people, they harassed and abused their employees.

meh, I've offered a remedy not post after post of polemics. They should do what Jennifer Gonzalez did and leave.

I agree, they should unionize.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 22:13:08
January 18 2022 21:57 GMT
#574
On January 19 2022 06:57 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 06:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 19 2022 02:11 NewSunshine wrote:
Jimmy, I know this is probably the 90,000th time I'm explaining this to you, but they're not "victims", they're victims. If you can't grasp that much, and you'd rather spend your time downplaying what they did, I'd rather spend my time not discussing the matter with you. They weren't just kind of a dick to people, they harassed and abused their employees.

meh, I've offered a remedy not post after post of polemics. They should do what Jennifer Gonzalez did and leave.

I agree, they should unionize.

they're leaving.
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/culture/more-blizzard-employees-are-leaving-the-company-due-to-ongoing-crisis

Canadian nurses are in a variety of really solid unions. The job sucks....they are getting crushed....they're leaving.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadian-nurses-are-leaving-in-droves-worn-down-by-16-merciless-months/

Canadian nurses are leaving their union jobs and going to the USA for better work.
https://bloomberg.nursing.utoronto.ca/news/canadas-nurses-continue-to-migrate-to-us-for-full-time-work/

A union is not a silver bullet. Being proficient at finding good work puts one in a much more autonomous position as opposed to relying on some union.
On January 19 2022 02:25 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 01:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
in the CNBC interview "Bobby" has got a can of Coke beside him. ROFLMAO.
On January 19 2022 01:11 NewSunshine wrote:
This is a giant fuck you to everyone who moved, marched, and spoke up about the horrifying things that Blizzard and Activision were doing. Great news, everyone.

And, the state of California was in the process of fucking over any possible "victims" by their silly legal over reach. California's DFEH is more interested in scoring big headlines than helping out average workers.

Any how , the moral of this story is : don't rely on government bodies to improve your working life. Go out and unionize.


Sorry, you had some nonsensical bullshit smeared there, I got rid of it for you.

Nah, its common sense. Got a garbage job and are a skilled, talented, hard-working professional? Look for other work.

It appears many are leaving for better work elsewhere. Good on them.
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/culture/more-blizzard-employees-are-leaving-the-company-due-to-ongoing-crisis
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 18 2022 22:11 GMT
#575
In an interview, Kotick said the deal has nothing to do with the controversy surrounding Activision or calls for him to step down and that Spencer reached out to him last year. A person familiar with the discussions, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said Microsoft looked at Activision’s situation, given all the negative attention and pressure on Kotick, and wondered if the beleaguered CEO would be willing to do a deal.

Kotick initially didn’t want to sell, according to another person familiar with the talks, and also put the word out to see if any other company would outbid Microsoft. But at that point, Kotick had little leverage with his board amid the ongoing public scrutiny at his company.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
January 18 2022 22:14 GMT
#576
In ATVI's entire lifetime the stock has almost never been above $95/share. If that price remains I think Kotick made a great deal for his shareholders.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
January 18 2022 22:20 GMT
#577
On January 19 2022 06:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 02:25 Zambrah wrote:
On January 19 2022 01:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
in the CNBC interview "Bobby" has got a can of Coke beside him. ROFLMAO.
On January 19 2022 01:11 NewSunshine wrote:
This is a giant fuck you to everyone who moved, marched, and spoke up about the horrifying things that Blizzard and Activision were doing. Great news, everyone.

And, the state of California was in the process of fucking over any possible "victims" by their silly legal over reach. California's DFEH is more interested in scoring big headlines than helping out average workers.

Any how , the moral of this story is : don't rely on government bodies to improve your working life. Go out and unionize.


Sorry, you had some nonsensical bullshit smeared there, I got rid of it for you.

Nah, its common sense. Got a garbage job and are a skilled, talented, hard-working professional? Look for other work.

It appears many are leaving for better work elsewhere. Good on them.
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/culture/more-blizzard-employees-are-leaving-the-company-due-to-ongoing-crisis

Jimmy, you seem to be missing the line that distinguishes between a job that sucks, and a job that violates your dignity and rights. But for all the sexual harassment, abuse, discrimination, and rape, I'd agree with your take. But unfortunately that stuff matters to people.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 22:30:15
January 18 2022 22:26 GMT
#578
On January 19 2022 07:20 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 06:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 19 2022 02:25 Zambrah wrote:
On January 19 2022 01:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
in the CNBC interview "Bobby" has got a can of Coke beside him. ROFLMAO.
On January 19 2022 01:11 NewSunshine wrote:
This is a giant fuck you to everyone who moved, marched, and spoke up about the horrifying things that Blizzard and Activision were doing. Great news, everyone.

And, the state of California was in the process of fucking over any possible "victims" by their silly legal over reach. California's DFEH is more interested in scoring big headlines than helping out average workers.

Any how , the moral of this story is : don't rely on government bodies to improve your working life. Go out and unionize.


Sorry, you had some nonsensical bullshit smeared there, I got rid of it for you.

Nah, its common sense. Got a garbage job and are a skilled, talented, hard-working professional? Look for other work.

It appears many are leaving for better work elsewhere. Good on them.
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/culture/more-blizzard-employees-are-leaving-the-company-due-to-ongoing-crisis

Jimmy, you seem to be missing the line that distinguishes between a job that sucks, and a job that violates your dignity and rights. But for all the sexual harassment, abuse, discrimination, and rape, I'd agree with your take. But unfortunately that stuff matters to people.

and when the job violates your dignity it qualifies as a job that sucks. Thus, you look for different work. Just like Jennifer Gonzalez did. Just like many employees are currently doing right now.

Over 100 construction workers died in Canada in the past 5 years. To them I say... if your construction site is dangerous.... start looking for different work right now.

Again, ATVI is not the USSR. You can leave.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
January 18 2022 22:33 GMT
#579
On January 19 2022 07:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 07:20 NewSunshine wrote:
On January 19 2022 06:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 19 2022 02:25 Zambrah wrote:
On January 19 2022 01:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
in the CNBC interview "Bobby" has got a can of Coke beside him. ROFLMAO.
On January 19 2022 01:11 NewSunshine wrote:
This is a giant fuck you to everyone who moved, marched, and spoke up about the horrifying things that Blizzard and Activision were doing. Great news, everyone.

And, the state of California was in the process of fucking over any possible "victims" by their silly legal over reach. California's DFEH is more interested in scoring big headlines than helping out average workers.

Any how , the moral of this story is : don't rely on government bodies to improve your working life. Go out and unionize.


Sorry, you had some nonsensical bullshit smeared there, I got rid of it for you.

Nah, its common sense. Got a garbage job and are a skilled, talented, hard-working professional? Look for other work.

It appears many are leaving for better work elsewhere. Good on them.
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/culture/more-blizzard-employees-are-leaving-the-company-due-to-ongoing-crisis

Jimmy, you seem to be missing the line that distinguishes between a job that sucks, and a job that violates your dignity and rights. But for all the sexual harassment, abuse, discrimination, and rape, I'd agree with your take. But unfortunately that stuff matters to people.

and when the job violates your dignity it qualifies as a job that sucks. Thus, you look for different work. Just like Jennifer Gonzalez did. Just like many employees are currently doing right now.

Over 100 construction workers died in Canada in the past 5 years. To them I say... if your construction site is dangerous.... start looking for different work right now.

No, that qualifies as a situation where heads should roll, companies should get fined, and the people responsible fired. You don't get it.

Also please stop invoking Jennifer Gonzales, as though what she did supports your point. She left Blizzard and has since been busting her ass in support of the people still working there, attempting to organize a union. She ain't in your camp.

Also your construction metaphor is fucking garbage from top to bottom, and you can continue fucking off if you think there's merit to it.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 22:46:11
January 18 2022 22:42 GMT
#580
On January 19 2022 07:33 NewSunshine wrote:
Also your construction metaphor is fucking garbage from top to bottom, and you can continue fucking off if you think there's merit to it.

its a sad fact. people die in Canada on construction jobs every month. if this upsets you.. . it should. its brutal.

Nurses and construction workers face far more brutal conditions than the ATVI employees. For those that face the worst of the worst I think their best move is to find different work rather than waiting 3+ years for government agencies like the DFEH or the EEOC to improve things.

Tens of millions of people are constantly looking for better/different work. Good on them.

Sitting around waiting 3+ years for the DFEH and the EEOC to finally change things is a bad bet. When are these clowns going to stop fighting with each other and start addressing the issues? Its been a long long time.

On January 19 2022 07:33 NewSunshine wrote:
Also please stop invoking Jennifer Gonzales, as though what she did supports your point. She left Blizzard and has since been busting her ass in support of the people still working there, attempting to organize a union. She ain't in your camp.

it isn't just Ms Gonzalez. There is a big exodus from Blizzard. Lots of employees are leaving. Good on them!

If everyone keeps leaving Blizzard then Blizzard is forced to increase their salary offers and improve their work environment.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
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