EPTOn May 06 2025 00:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Not ugly enough to lose Europe's support. There isn't really even a coherent way to rationalize not sanctioning Israel.
I believe trying to motivate/organize people in the US (and people who take interest in US/or their own politics) toward electoral or radical political efforts to change those governments is helpful and necessary. More people joining those efforts would funnily enough address Jankisa's complaint.
One of the big problems is that so many democracy enjoyers (basically all of them here) don't want to do the work a democracy takes. That and/or they have been deluded into believing that "the work a democracy takes" means simply periodically voting.
Not ugly enough to lose Europe's support. There isn't really even a coherent way to rationalize not sanctioning Israel.
I believe trying to motivate/organize people in the US (and people who take interest in US/or their own politics) toward electoral or radical political efforts to change those governments is helpful and necessary. More people joining those efforts would funnily enough address Jankisa's complaint.
One of the big problems is that so many democracy enjoyers (basically all of them here) don't want to do the work a democracy takes. That and/or they have been deluded into believing that "the work a democracy takes" means simply periodically voting.
It's impossible. Like straight up impossible. I am part of a support palestine group in my local town (around 80k inhabitants). We're distributing flyers, we have public gathering. We're inviting scholars, historian like fillu or Pierre Stambul, journalist like Sylvain Cypelle. We have invited as well a palestinian writer, a translator of palestinian poetry. We have with the accord the local cinema projected movies like no other land and voyage à gaza.
But it doesn't work, we don't manage to expand the mobilization, it's a failure, a total failure. The vast majority don't care, the ones who do a little are extremely armophous. Just like on another topics like the maga authoritarianism and cruelty, society is anesthetized.
And it's the best case scenario, we have pro israeli supporter taunting us that they love watching palestinian kids getting murdered.
Of course, the police doesn't react to this kind of behavior, quite the contrary, we are pressured, like, one of our member got a summoning to the police because he asked sylvain cypelle during his conference if he suffered some pressure when publishing article on the subject. Of course, he is the only arab.
