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Simberto
Germany12021 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
Lægemiddelchef: Flere andre forskere er længere end russerne Chef for Lægemiddelstyrelsen, Nikolai Brun, fortæller i B.T. live onsdag, at russerne faktisk ikke er så langt med deres vaccine, som mange andre forskere i verden. Russerne er i fase to, mens man mange andre steder er i fase tre. - Jeg kan ikke vide, hvor god den russiske vaccine er, for vores russiske kolleger har ikke delt deres data med os, siger han og forklarer, at man i Rusland godt kan slippe en vaccine løs, før man er helt sikker på, at den virker og ikke har bivirkninger. Det kan man ikke i Europa. - Det russiske system er anderledes. Der kan man godt markedsføre vaccinen, før man har sikret, at den er sikker. Det kan man ikke i Europa. Russerne har testet 76 personer, og det er ikke nok til at få en vaccine godkendt i Europa. Her skal man teste flere tusinde personer. This is from a thread in a danish newspaper BT. It quote the chef of medical departement saying that the Russian Vaccine is behind other vaccines. In is only in fase 2 where some other are in fase 3. He says he can't judge effectivnes as the Russian won't share data. The reason it is out for sale is that there are different rules for testing then in EU. And that it's only tested on 76 persons and it require several thousend test. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
We've been far better at preventing transmission to the elderly, but a drastic increase in the 20-29, 30-39 age groups. Just younger people being irresponsible. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/eMF6lLV.png) Good news is going by the graphs, over 95% of the new cases are found via contact tracing, despite the increasing case numbers - 85 new yesterday, 78 today. We're still doing well in breaking the chain of transmission very early in most cases. Still worrying, but it's stil under control for now. Contact tracing coupled with rapid testing is still very effective at controlling the spread. Our mean turnaround time for testing is 22.2 hours right now. Pretty damn good. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On August 14 2020 07:15 Lmui wrote: In BC, we're getting a modelling update today, which reflects what the future looks like. It's in progress, but I found this picture interesting. We've been far better at preventing transmission to the elderly, but a drastic increase in the 20-29, 30-39 age groups. Just younger people being irresponsible. Good news is going by the graphs, over 95% of the new cases are found via contact tracing, despite the increasing case numbers - 85 new yesterday, 78 today. We're still doing well in breaking the chain of transmission very early in most cases. Still worrying, but it's stil under control for now. Contact tracing coupled with rapid testing is still very effective at controlling the spread. Our mean turnaround time for testing is 22.2 hours right now. Pretty damn good. The elderly are the critical area, so good job. | ||
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Yurie
12175 Posts
On August 14 2020 08:00 JimmiC wrote: People have been talking about excessive deaths and while this is a little bit old I think it paints a pretty good picture about what is going on. USA probably close to double, somewhere like Mexico 5x and then Norway is down deaths compared to past years (which makes sense will less car travel and so on. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/07/15/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries And Florida still amazes with its strangeness, Sheriffs saying they will not enforce mask rules and will force people to remove masks in their building. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/08/12/901756223/florida-sheriff-orders-deputies-and-staff-not-to-wear-face-masks Problem with excess deaths is that so few places track it. So it can't be used to track it on a global scale.Works well in Europe and some other rich areas but has very few data points outside that. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
It looks like older people are protecting themselves correctly, while youngsters are restless and getting more reckless. The R looks like it is slowly lowering, but is still pretty far over 1 at 1.3... We'll see how this goes. The trend currently is to mandate masks even outside in busy areas. It's not that useful as a recent survey showed that 48% of contaminations occured at work, and 25+% in a family setting (can't find a link). The goal is to control what we can so we can last on the long term with the lowest possible impact on the economy. | ||
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
On August 16 2020 06:27 Nouar wrote: The trend currently is to mandate masks even outside in busy areas. It's not that useful as a recent survey showed that 48% of contaminations occured at work, and 25+% in a family setting (can't find a link). I think it might be very useful. There are 27% of cases that are occurring outside of work and family, and it is surely a significant part that can be worked on. The question is where these 27% of infections happen. Are the bars, discos, karaokes and other entertainment places open in France? | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On August 16 2020 15:40 arbiter_md wrote: I think it might be very useful. There are 27% of cases that are occurring outside of work and family, and it is surely a significant part that can be worked on. The question is where these 27% of infections happen. Are the bars, discos, karaokes and other entertainment places open in France? Night clubs are closed until at least september. The other places I believe are open, as karaokes and bars usually involve smaller clumps of people. Bars and restaurants involve 1m distance between each table, and compulsory mask everytime you go inside and are not seated at your table. All indoor entertainment places (concerts, theatre etc) have strict seated distancing. There is a chance bars/restaurants might have to close again, but it would be dramatic after already being shut for 3 full months, so my guess is they will do every other action possible and keep some avenues of contamination open, trying to balance the numbers as much as they can. Schools are scheduled to open as expected in september, I guess if cases boom at that point, we'll have a clear culprit... Yes I agree even if it's 5% sources of contamination, it's better to work on what's easily achievable. Wearing a mask outside is easy as hell to do, and pretty easy to enforce in busy streets by law enforcement. But I stand by my remark that it would not be *that* useful. It is useful and needed, it is easy, but doesn't strike where the worst of the contamination happens. We should also have some new workspace rules starting from September. Where we currently stand, even small things can tip the scale the right way, so I'm all for it. | ||
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120720
95 Posts
If they force her to wear mask she said she would but "I will not cover my nose". My country passed some laws about working from home she thinks they took advantage of the fake virus to do this. She thinks that if you get the virus you should just take one paracetamol and you are good to go. Someone told her "there has been 1 million deaths" she replied "no, it's 700 000 and it's all over the world", so to her it's "nothing". The joy of a mentally ill mother. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On August 17 2020 00:11 xM(Z wrote: well, she's ~80% right. No. | ||
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
But its only so "low" because most of the world reacted drastic. Still those 700k (1m is more likely) and more to come are/were people too. And just pretend-wearing a mask is just evil. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On August 17 2020 00:11 xM(Z wrote: well, she's ~80% right. you mean -80%? | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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