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United Kingdom13775 Posts
On May 24 2020 06:23 GreenHorizons wrote:
Anyone that's newly (since covid-19) working from home find they (or their colleagues) are unable to maintain their at-work level outputs (to the degree they are required)?
Personally I've been in part wfh for a while and find more noise from neighbors and such distracting lately.
Output is... so-so. Having the option to be remote is nice; being limited to IM's, emails, and phone calls whenever I need to talk to people is really limiting after a while. Biggest problem is that the remote environment makes is really easy for people to go AWOL for hours at a time. Couple that with the standard dose of mediocre communicators and things slip through the cracks at record pace. I admit the flexibility is nice, and I'd be happy to do this 50% of the time... but the 95% of the time that I'm actually working remote is a little worse for wear. I'd estimate overall productivity at around the 70% mark, all things considered, with a spread of 30-90% productivity on a person-by-person basis.
All that said, I nevertheless consider it quite fortunate that I can do most of my work from home, and that the job is still as relevant as it is during these times. More than a quarter of the nation is not so lucky.
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Cases are still going down.
22 May - 41 new cases
23 May - 36 cases
24 May - 19 cases
Link is in my local language, so you'll have to trust me if you can't translate it. 
That is with malls, gyms, non-essential shops and parks open. Only country to country transport is limited and I think education system too (kindergarten included). Oh, also threatres, museums and stuff like that aren't allowed yet.
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24 May barely started, but maybe they only report once per day in Bulgaria (such as others like Russia I believe)? Anyway it's the same at https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Numbers are going down in a lot of countries, it seems weird to me after many things being opened but I guess masks + everyone being careful and mass events not being allowed helps.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Productivity here has been more up and down lately, times where I crank out far, far more work then at the office, times where I feel like I barely do anything(granted this also exists at the office but you feel more.....aware of it when you are at home I feel).
Work in general at home feels quite tiring when you have little to no social interaction, I went to the office for the first time last monday for a day (going once a week now probably) and while it was fun and got a lot of energy my productivity also wasn't very good. When I work from home I tend to be much more tired at the end of the day. Obviously though this has also been a bit of an experiment and its tough to get used to new routines and situations.
Our communication in the team and between teams has been dialed up by like 300%or so though, everyone is communicating far, far better then before (partially because we didn't have a choice).
I think it is likely that we will move to 3-2 Office-Home ratio or even 2-3, my boss already says pretty much that office is pretty much only for meetings and if you want to, the rest you can do at home. You can even do meetings online but face 2 face is nicer.
All that said, I nevertheless consider it quite fortunate that I can do most of my work from home, and that the job is still as relevant as it is during these times. More than a quarter of the nation is not so lucky
This has emphasized for me how lucky I am once again that I can work from home though (fingers crossed, my agency lost a lot of clients and its tough to get busines now but its oke-ish). But I live fairly comfortably, have no kids, can still work, can still work on my career and the obvious one where I don't have to dip into my savings to weather the (upcoming) storm. No such luck for some other people 
Some of my friends are graduating this year....they picked a bad year, hiring freezes are across the board. Hopefully we can bounce back a lot faster then 2008 crisis.
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On the whole I love WFH, but there have been challenges.
In some areas I've seen a huge improvement. My role is research-oriented, but I'm also quite client facing. It's always been difficult to juggle these as the development work is constantly interrupted by people banging down my door. The pandemic has solved this dilemma overnight; I think I've made more progress on my long-term objectives in the last three months than in the whole of 2019. Joke's on them, I don't have a door anymore.
On the other hand, our communication is definitely not up 300%. I didn't realise how isolating it would feel to try to remote into a tool, only to sit and wait half a day because the rostered button-pusher communicates exclusively by landline and checks voicemail at lunch.
It's a high-tech environment, but the organisation is a bureaucratic maze and the average age of my team is fairly high, with a very 90s pick-up-the-phone comms ethic. There's been an explosion of interminable zoom meetings as a result. We are literally just getting an IM rollout as lockdown ends.
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
Hah, it’d be really nice if communication were up 300% for me...
Mostly it seems like people who were already responsive stay responsive, and those who aren’t, now I can’t use in-person communication to help mitigate their already poor communication. And while to some extent you have to be able to trust people to do their work without aggressive oversight, that becomes really troublesome when things consistently slip through the cracks by virtue of insufficient communication and other hiccups that wouldn’t exist if we were in the same office.
Doing “always remote” would be very frustrating indeed in the long term.
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Reading a nice study finding that says that high Vitamin D levels (a vitamin that people get from sunlight mainly) can decrease the likliehood of developing serious complications from COVID.
They mainly got this data by looking at country's with high infection rates and mortality rates based on their relative sunlight per year.
The authors propose that, whereas optimising vitamin D levels will certainly benefit bone and muscle health, the data suggests that it is also likely to reduce serious COVID-19 complications. This may be because vitamin D is important in regulation and suppression of the inflammatory cytokine response, which causes the severe consequences of COVID-19 and 'acute respiratory distress syndrome' associated with ventilation and death.
Professor Rose Anne Kenny said:
"In England, Scotland and Wales, public health bodies have revised recommendations since the COVID-19 outbreak. Recommendations now state that all adults should take at least 400 IU vitamin D daily. Whereas there are currently no results from randomised controlled trials to conclusively prove that vitamin D beneficially affects COVID-19 outcomes, there is strong circumstantial evidence of associations between vitamin D and the severity of COVID-19 responses, including death."
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Its nice to interact with people outside my family. Work hasnt counted lately since we do all things through video chat/con calls now.
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Lalalaland34491 Posts
My interpretation of that study was more correlation of vit D levels and covid severity, rather than causation, at least for now. That said, vit D is good, so go ahead and take a trustworthy supplement.
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Trump has been referring to himself as a wartime president, due to the coronavirus, and the media has been referring to our essential workers as protecting the front lines of our country, so there have been many interesting parallels asserted between being in the military and responding to our pandemic. I suppose it's fitting that today is Memorial Day (honoring troops who have died) in the USA, which will appear to coincide with us hitting the six-digit death mark... 100,000 dead in our country, from coronavirus. Memorial Day is notorious for having parades; I wonder if people will be practicing smart social distancing during any parades today.
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On May 25 2020 19:25 Firebolt145 wrote:
My interpretation of that study was more correlation of vit D levels and covid severity, rather than causation, at least for now. That said, vit D is good, so go ahead and take a trustworthy supplement.
Its a pretty damn good correlation, though. If I saw this data at work, I would immediately take aggressive action to adjust my processes (I am a manufacturing engineer) around this. This is a total smoking gun. Sure, it may not pan out, but this is the sort of thing that people should be running towards.
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Australia54784 Posts
On May 26 2020 05:48 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2020 19:25 Firebolt145 wrote:
My interpretation of that study was more correlation of vit D levels and covid severity, rather than causation, at least for now. That said, vit D is good, so go ahead and take a trustworthy supplement. Its a pretty damn good correlation, though. If I saw this data at work, I would immediately take aggressive action to adjust my processes (I am a manufacturing engineer) around this. This is a total smoking gun. Sure, it may not pan out, but this is the sort of thing that people should be running towards.
I mean there's alsona great correlation between shark attacks and consumption of ice cream, you cannot infer causation by any stretch.
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Lalalaland34491 Posts
On May 26 2020 05:48 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2020 19:25 Firebolt145 wrote:
My interpretation of that study was more correlation of vit D levels and covid severity, rather than causation, at least for now. That said, vit D is good, so go ahead and take a trustworthy supplement. Its a pretty damn good correlation, though. If I saw this data at work, I would immediately take aggressive action to adjust my processes (I am a manufacturing engineer) around this. This is a total smoking gun. Sure, it may not pan out, but this is the sort of thing that people should be running towards.
Given the other benefits of aiming for sufficient vit D, it's one I'd definitely recommend to patients.
Don't take absurd amounts though. 400-1000 international units daily should be safe. 4000-5000 a day may be suitable for short periods for certain people with deficiencies, but most of you guys probably don't know your own vitamin D levels, and there are risks of having too much.
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On May 26 2020 06:21 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2020 05:48 Mohdoo wrote:On May 25 2020 19:25 Firebolt145 wrote:
My interpretation of that study was more correlation of vit D levels and covid severity, rather than causation, at least for now. That said, vit D is good, so go ahead and take a trustworthy supplement. Its a pretty damn good correlation, though. If I saw this data at work, I would immediately take aggressive action to adjust my processes (I am a manufacturing engineer) around this. This is a total smoking gun. Sure, it may not pan out, but this is the sort of thing that people should be running towards. I mean there's alsona great correlation between shark attacks and consumption of ice cream, you cannot infer causation by any stretch.
Of course, but with existing mechanisms supporting the benefits of vitamin d, run with it. If I was at work I would say "adding this has shown no disadvantage previously and we have no reason to think this is bad, so this is a scent worth aggressively following". The stuff you do when the situation is busted, as covid therapy is right now, is more yolo, so long as it is safe. Chase scents.
My wife and I are taking 1000 per day
Also, since recent data indicates covid fucks with t cells, i wonder how this relates. Maybe firebolt can comment
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4425186/
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On May 26 2020 06:45 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2020 05:48 Mohdoo wrote:On May 25 2020 19:25 Firebolt145 wrote:
My interpretation of that study was more correlation of vit D levels and covid severity, rather than causation, at least for now. That said, vit D is good, so go ahead and take a trustworthy supplement. Its a pretty damn good correlation, though. If I saw this data at work, I would immediately take aggressive action to adjust my processes (I am a manufacturing engineer) around this. This is a total smoking gun. Sure, it may not pan out, but this is the sort of thing that people should be running towards. Given the other benefits of aiming for sufficient vit D, it's one I'd definitely recommend to patients. Don't take absurd amounts though. 400-1000 international units daily should be safe. 4000-5000 a day may be suitable for short periods for certain people with deficiencies, but most of you guys probably don't know your own vitamin D levels, and there are risks of having too much.
I went to the doctor last year and he said that I had severe vitamin D deficiency and put me on 5000 units every week for 3 months, then 5000 once a month for 3 months. I found it weird because he said this had developed over several years but I've been living in California or been outside a lot during the years this could have developed. I chalked it up to cancer/chemo.
I don't know what the benefits I gained from it (I haven't noticed anything particularly changed) but reading this news makes me feel a bit better. I still take multi-vites so hopefully those levels will remain relatively high.
Go outside responsibly and eat ya gotdamn fruits.
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A multi-vitamin I have around has 800IU of vitamin D. Pretty reasonable - just keep taking that daily and there's a fairly good body of evidence pointing towards the vitamin D making a decent impact if I ever do catch it.
I wonder if in 2-3 months if that body of evidence grows makes milk, and other vitamin D fortified foods more common. The jug of milk I have has 45% of daily requirements in 250ml which is a pretty hefty amount. As an example, the first semi junk dinner I thought of was kraft dinner. From the label, it has no vitamin D. The commercial food level is probably the best way to add broad population level benefits, although you might run into the crowd that disagrees with flourinated water.
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On May 26 2020 06:45 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2020 05:48 Mohdoo wrote:On May 25 2020 19:25 Firebolt145 wrote:
My interpretation of that study was more correlation of vit D levels and covid severity, rather than causation, at least for now. That said, vit D is good, so go ahead and take a trustworthy supplement. Its a pretty damn good correlation, though. If I saw this data at work, I would immediately take aggressive action to adjust my processes (I am a manufacturing engineer) around this. This is a total smoking gun. Sure, it may not pan out, but this is the sort of thing that people should be running towards. Given the other benefits of aiming for sufficient vit D, it's one I'd definitely recommend to patients. Don't take absurd amounts though. 400-1000 international units daily should be safe. 4000-5000 a day may be suitable for short periods for certain people with deficiencies, but most of you guys probably don't know your own vitamin D levels, and there are risks of having too much.
If vitamin D really makes COVID symptoms milder, is it possible to also assume that dry heat (summer) would also kill/weaken the virus on surfaces significantly? I've not read an article about dry heat, but I remember reading at the beginning of COVID-19 crisis that humid warm weather doesn't bother the virus too much. I posted a link many pages before, I could find the link again if source is requested.
On a different topic, the 2 most hit countries correlate with their irresponsible presidents - US and Brazil. They didn't take coronavirus seriously, especially the president in Brazil and look what happened: https://bing.com/covid
Also, Russia's stats is hilarious. They have as many deaths as China even though infections were a few times less (allegedly). This just shows how massive their underreporting is when compared to others.
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On May 26 2020 08:21 SC-Shield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2020 06:45 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 26 2020 05:48 Mohdoo wrote:On May 25 2020 19:25 Firebolt145 wrote:
My interpretation of that study was more correlation of vit D levels and covid severity, rather than causation, at least for now. That said, vit D is good, so go ahead and take a trustworthy supplement. Its a pretty damn good correlation, though. If I saw this data at work, I would immediately take aggressive action to adjust my processes (I am a manufacturing engineer) around this. This is a total smoking gun. Sure, it may not pan out, but this is the sort of thing that people should be running towards. Given the other benefits of aiming for sufficient vit D, it's one I'd definitely recommend to patients. Don't take absurd amounts though. 400-1000 international units daily should be safe. 4000-5000 a day may be suitable for short periods for certain people with deficiencies, but most of you guys probably don't know your own vitamin D levels, and there are risks of having too much. If vitamin D really makes COVID symptoms milder, is it possible to also assume that dry heat (summer) would also kill/weaken the virus on surfaces significantly? I've not read an article about dry heat, but I remember reading at the beginning of COVID-19 crisis that humid warm weather doesn't bother the virus too much. I posted a link many pages before, I could find the link again if source is requested. On a different topic, the 2 most hit countries correlate with their irresponsible presidents - US and Brazil. They didn't take coronavirus seriously, especially the president in Brazil and look what happened: https://bing.com/covidAlso, Russia's stats is hilarious. They have as many deaths as China even though infections were a few times less (allegedly). This just shows how massive their underreporting is when compared to others.
Dry heat killing the virus, and the benefits of vitamin D have absolutely nothing at all to do with one another, not even a little bit. They have nothing at all in common except that both conditions are related to sunlight.
Dry heat killing corona is a hypothesis. We know high doses of ultraviolet kills it. We also know heat kills it. So it should last less long "in the wild" on a hot summer day than on a miserable winter day. However if most transmission is indoor, that should not make much of a difference.
Vitamin D is totally unrelated to whether or not Coronavirus survives in the wild. If it is effective, it is so because it bolsters the immune system in some way. Therefore making us more resistant to the virus if and when it infects us.
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On May 26 2020 08:44 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2020 08:21 SC-Shield wrote:On May 26 2020 06:45 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 26 2020 05:48 Mohdoo wrote:On May 25 2020 19:25 Firebolt145 wrote:
My interpretation of that study was more correlation of vit D levels and covid severity, rather than causation, at least for now. That said, vit D is good, so go ahead and take a trustworthy supplement. Its a pretty damn good correlation, though. If I saw this data at work, I would immediately take aggressive action to adjust my processes (I am a manufacturing engineer) around this. This is a total smoking gun. Sure, it may not pan out, but this is the sort of thing that people should be running towards. Given the other benefits of aiming for sufficient vit D, it's one I'd definitely recommend to patients. Don't take absurd amounts though. 400-1000 international units daily should be safe. 4000-5000 a day may be suitable for short periods for certain people with deficiencies, but most of you guys probably don't know your own vitamin D levels, and there are risks of having too much. If vitamin D really makes COVID symptoms milder, is it possible to also assume that dry heat (summer) would also kill/weaken the virus on surfaces significantly? I've not read an article about dry heat, but I remember reading at the beginning of COVID-19 crisis that humid warm weather doesn't bother the virus too much. I posted a link many pages before, I could find the link again if source is requested. On a different topic, the 2 most hit countries correlate with their irresponsible presidents - US and Brazil. They didn't take coronavirus seriously, especially the president in Brazil and look what happened: https://bing.com/covidAlso, Russia's stats is hilarious. They have as many deaths as China even though infections were a few times less (allegedly). This just shows how massive their underreporting is when compared to others. Dry heat killing the virus, and the benefits of vitamin D have absolutely nothing at all to do with one another, not even a little bit. They have nothing at all in common except that both conditions are related to sunlight. Dry heat killing corona is a hypothesis. We know high doses of ultraviolet kills it. We also know heat kills it. So it should last less long "in the wild" on a hot summer day than on a miserable winter day. However if most transmission is indoor, that should not make much of a difference. Vitamin D is totally unrelated to whether or not Coronavirus survives in the wild. If it is effective, it is so because it bolsters the immune system in some way. Therefore making us more resistant to the virus if and when it infects us.
Dry heat is extremely bad at killing covid. Labs have tried various decontamination protocols and concluded it is very dry heat resistant. That's not doing any good at temps we live in. Only outdoor benefit is air circulation decreasing # of virus you breathe when compared to outdoors
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