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On April 14 2020 00:47 Gina wrote:
A bit of venting on the personal side of things.
We have been staying strictly at home for a bit more than 2 weeks, except for grocery shopping once or twice a week. The kids are going crazy, used to 2 walks a day and now they are "walking" on a 1-square meter balcony. My eldest chucked his daytime sleep. The neighbours are complaining of the noise the kids make while they are trying to work from home, and threatening to call the police =( And yes, they are noisy and we parents are also both working from home (much worse than before of course). I hope that that was just letting off steam.
Everyone is pretty evidently on edge at this point. Being in quarantine for weeks to months isn’t good for the psyche.
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On April 14 2020 03:28 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2020 00:47 Gina wrote:
A bit of venting on the personal side of things.
We have been staying strictly at home for a bit more than 2 weeks, except for grocery shopping once or twice a week. The kids are going crazy, used to 2 walks a day and now they are "walking" on a 1-square meter balcony. My eldest chucked his daytime sleep. The neighbours are complaining of the noise the kids make while they are trying to work from home, and threatening to call the police =( And yes, they are noisy and we parents are also both working from home (much worse than before of course). I hope that that was just letting off steam. Everyone is pretty evidently on edge at this point. Being in quarantine for weeks to months isn’t good for the psyche.
Can't wait until the nearby bars open again.
Thinking of getting one of these ;P
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A lot of my neighbors are exhausted and frustrated from nothing to do. Suddenly, with the harder parking situation from everybody being home all the time, the HOA is cranking it up on people who do not park in their garages and instead use it for storage. It's technically against HOA rules, but who's going to evict someone from their own condo during coronavirus?
The neighborhood parents/kids are arranging street parades. Today, it's teachers decorating their cars and cruising down the residential streets honking. Families stand 6 ft apart on sidewalk while kids show pretty personally-decorated poster boards. It's something.
Now more grocery stores are requiring masks and improvised masks to enter and shop. Local stores that previously had insane one-day ad (think produce 50% of a normal sale price) have cancelled those due to store crowding. That sucks for budgeting.
My specialty industry chain is starting to show cracks as technically non-essential trades are needed to continue with the essential ones. This is all not to mention the demand for surface disinfectants and normal manufacturers focused on gallons per day of just that one product line. It sucks if you start running out of essential chemicals that simply aren't getting made and packaged. The other obvious one is the absolute decline in raw materials China is shipping overseas for sale. They must really still be struggling with the virus or still trying to return to normal after the virus.
Final note: For simple sanity reasons, California temporarily changed their bizarre prohibition on beer/wine/mixed drinks in takeout orders from restaurants. It actually matters that you and your buddies can get some local-famous cocktails from the bartender you love, and all enjoy them together via zoom and chat about stuff (although chatting about sports has not made a comeback yet).
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On April 14 2020 03:59 Danglars wrote:
A lot of my neighbors are exhausted and frustrated from nothing to do. Suddenly, with the harder parking situation from everybody being home all the time, the HOA is cranking it up on people who do not park in their garages and instead use it for storage. It's technically against HOA rules, but who's going to evict someone from their own condo during coronavirus?
The neighborhood parents/kids are arranging street parades. Today, it's teachers decorating their cars and cruising down the residential streets honking. Families stand 6 ft apart on sidewalk while kids show pretty personally-decorated poster boards. It's something.
Now more grocery stores are requiring masks and improvised masks to enter and shop. Local stores that previously had insane one-day ad (think produce 50% of a normal sale price) have cancelled those due to store crowding. That sucks for budgeting.
My specialty industry chain is starting to show cracks as technically non-essential trades are needed to continue with the essential ones. This is all not to mention the demand for surface disinfectants and normal manufacturers focused on gallons per day of just that one product line. It sucks if you start running out of essential chemicals that simply aren't getting made and packaged. The other obvious one is the absolute decline in raw materials China is shipping overseas for sale. They must really still be struggling with the virus or still trying to return to normal after the virus.
Final note: For simple sanity reasons, California temporarily changed their bizarre prohibition on beer/wine/mixed drinks in takeout orders from restaurants. It actually matters that you and your buddies can get some local-famous cocktails from the bartender you love, and all enjoy them together via zoom and chat about stuff (although chatting about sports has not made a comeback yet).
I just got something in the mail from the city (Glendale CA if anyone was interested), that explicity says that evictions from residential properties are banned until May of next month and they'll probably extend that if the lockdown continues which it most likely will. The pamphlet also explicity says that water, electricty and gas won't be shut off due to lack of payment for as long as this lockdown exists either.
I am so glad I live in California, especially during times like this. They are actually on top of this thing right now and doing everything they can to help people. The rest of the country should take notice.
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On April 14 2020 05:20 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2020 03:59 Danglars wrote:
A lot of my neighbors are exhausted and frustrated from nothing to do. Suddenly, with the harder parking situation from everybody being home all the time, the HOA is cranking it up on people who do not park in their garages and instead use it for storage. It's technically against HOA rules, but who's going to evict someone from their own condo during coronavirus?
The neighborhood parents/kids are arranging street parades. Today, it's teachers decorating their cars and cruising down the residential streets honking. Families stand 6 ft apart on sidewalk while kids show pretty personally-decorated poster boards. It's something.
Now more grocery stores are requiring masks and improvised masks to enter and shop. Local stores that previously had insane one-day ad (think produce 50% of a normal sale price) have cancelled those due to store crowding. That sucks for budgeting.
My specialty industry chain is starting to show cracks as technically non-essential trades are needed to continue with the essential ones. This is all not to mention the demand for surface disinfectants and normal manufacturers focused on gallons per day of just that one product line. It sucks if you start running out of essential chemicals that simply aren't getting made and packaged. The other obvious one is the absolute decline in raw materials China is shipping overseas for sale. They must really still be struggling with the virus or still trying to return to normal after the virus.
Final note: For simple sanity reasons, California temporarily changed their bizarre prohibition on beer/wine/mixed drinks in takeout orders from restaurants. It actually matters that you and your buddies can get some local-famous cocktails from the bartender you love, and all enjoy them together via zoom and chat about stuff (although chatting about sports has not made a comeback yet). I just got something in the mail from the city (Glendale CA if anyone was interested), that explicity says that evictions from residential properties are banned until May of next month and they'll probably extend that if the lockdown continues which it most likely will. The pamphlet also explicity says that water, electricty and gas won't be shut off due to lack of payment for as long as this lockdown exists either. I am so glad I live in California, especially during times like this. They are actually on top of this thing right now and doing everything they can to help people. The rest of the country should take notice.
It sounds like my state did shut down major gatherings and dine-in restaurants early enough to avoid a repeat of New York City in LA. Governor Newsom ordered residents to stay at home at 675 cases in CA, while NY had 4152. When Cuomo shut it down, NY had 7,000 (New York Times source, de Blasio bonus)
And anecdotally, my county has been at a static linear increase ever since it hit 100 cases. 58 cases per day, linear fit of R^2 0.996 df=19 for you nerds out there. Everybody I've seen has been practicing social distancing and washing their hands. Overall, my personal observation of compliance with civic recommendations has been high for this first month phase of general lockdown.
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This was just released.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map
John Hopkins dashboard for USA specific information
The visualizations are interesting and make it super easy to see hotspots besides New York
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On April 14 2020 09:01 Lmui wrote:This was just released. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-mapJohn Hopkins dashboard for USA specific information The visualizations are interesting and make it super easy to see hotspots besides New York
There is also a Canada-specific one being offered by the Canadian government that is based on the same platform Johns Hopkins uses. It's more specific than the worldwide Johns Hopkins map but not as specific as that US graph: experience.arcgis.com
The cumulative cases tab for the graph on the lower left really does put into perspective just how bad it's going in Quebec. Alternately, it also shows how well things are going elsewhere, especially BC, who were on the same trajectory as Ontario at first. Alberta has now eclipsed BC in terms of cases.
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I don't know how the Hawaii economy is gonna recover since it's so heavily reliant on tourism. Opening up the gates to have travelers flooding in seems like one of the last things you'd want to restart after a pandemic.
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Same for Alaska tbh. Between tourism and oil right now its quite a concern.
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I think overtime Hawaii’s tourism will go back to normal. Just everything in airports will be a lot stricter and travelers heavily screened.
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On April 14 2020 14:41 Emnjay808 wrote:
I think overtime Hawaii’s tourism will go back to normal. Just everything in airports will be a lot stricter and travelers heavily screened.
I work in tourism. Right now, travel is basically stopped. We don't expect things to return to what they were pre-corona for at least a year. It's not just the restrictions; people are scared to travel. Tourism will probably be down significantly until we have a vaccine. Add a global economic recession/depression into the mix, and tourism is doubly screwed. My company is in a relatively good position, but even so, the projections are grim.
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I live in hawaii. I almost guarantee tourists will come over time. Everything is at a major stand still atm. But once things open up and with the stupid, crazy airfare prices things will go back to normal sooner than some people expect.
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What makes me worried about this virus is that we probably don't know if it could reappear periodically like Herpes Simplex, if it could reappear seasonally like common cold or if it's just one-off. I hope it's the last one. Also, I've heard a theory that the more it's transmitted human-to-human, the less severe it becomes. I hope that's true because it kind of makes sense if virus aims for survival. At least I learnt that in such cases the human species can't be exctinct from some super deadly virus because the more deadlier it is, the more difficult it is for virus to spread and survive. Sort of like Ebola.
There's another theory that I heard - if person becomes infected by less coronavirus particles, they have a higher chance to survive. If they get a high dose of the virus initially, then it's more difficult. I can't confirm and I can't remember where I read or heard that though. Interesting stuff though.
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On April 14 2020 19:49 SC-Shield wrote:
What makes me worried about this virus is that we probably don't know if it could reappear periodically like Herpes Simplex, if it could reappear seasonally like common cold or if it's just one-off. I hope it's the last one. Also, I've heard a theory that the more it's transmitted human-to-human, the less severe it becomes. I hope that's true because it kind of makes sense if virus aims for survival. At least I learnt that in such cases the human species can't be exctinct from some super deadly virus because the more deadlier it is, the more difficult it is for virus to spread and survive. Sort of like Ebola.
There's another theory that I heard - if person becomes infected by less coronavirus particles, they have a higher chance to survive. If they get a high dose of the virus initially, then it's more difficult. I can't confirm and I can't remember where I read or heard that though. Interesting stuff though.
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I'm not gonna have any citations either so I'm just as guilty hah, but addressing those points:
Reactivation is completely speculation. Who knows.
Mutations as per common cold - possibly. Is indeed concerning. No way to know for sure except wait and see.
I've not heard anything about less severe per transmission. I'd ignore that.
The link between viral load and severity of symptoms is being debated on and there is both evidence for and against. Anecdotally there seems to be a disproportionate amount of severely sick ENT surgeons and ophthalmologists compared to other doctors. However you're never ever gonna be able to ethically study this beyond cohort studies, which won't ever be the pinnacle of evidence, nor will it change a thing about how we behave to this virus.
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whats going on in the us? it's getting outta control
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The United States is what is going on in the US. Some states have implemented strict measures, others only half-measures, and yet others have basically done nothing but give basic recommendations. Add in the fact that restrictions on travel between states are close to categorically unconstitutional and you’ve got a recipe for a poor national ‘rona outcome.
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