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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-10 18:27:13
April 10 2018 18:24 GMT
#1961
It's pretty similar to what got Edwards charged (friends buying off his mistress). Who knows if it will end up equally anemic; certainly in a real court or the House Trump would end up with a similarly hung jury resulting in a mistrial.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 10 2018 18:25 GMT
#1962
zuckerberg is about to testify, if anyone is interested. i don't expect much though.
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
April 10 2018 18:37 GMT
#1963
On April 11 2018 03:22 Velr wrote:
If your justice system is SOOOO open to discrimination, you better scrap it. Justicia is blind for a reason... But well, you still got lynch mobs (juries)...
Baseline is, in court justice should win, not the law or another strange concept.

yours is probably near as open to it. all systems are; it's just inherent to the nature of systems and implementation. also, scrapping it is a dumb suggestion unless you have a replacement which will do the job better.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 10 2018 18:56 GMT
#1964
On April 11 2018 03:22 Velr wrote:
If your justice system is SOOOO open to discrimination, you better scrap it. Justicia is blind for a reason... But well, you still got lynch mobs (juries)...
Baseline is, in court justice should win, not the law or another strange concept.

I would argue that Alabama is flawed and the justice system in their state is not immune to those flaws.
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Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
April 10 2018 19:02 GMT
#1965
On April 11 2018 03:24 TheTenthDoc wrote:
It's pretty similar to what got Edwards charged (friends buying off his mistress). Who knows if it will end up equally anemic; certainly in a real court or the House Trump would end up with a similarly hung jury resulting in a mistrial.


My opinions about the Mueller investigation are changing. I don't think it is plausible that the investigation actually hits Trump, because President's can't go down for things they do as candidates. And the Comey firing would require a hostile congress to form an obstruction of justice charge. Big but here, the Mueller investigation is at this point latched itself on as a tick to practically the entire Trump campaign team. The latching onto all these guilty guys gives Mueller a legitimacy that no special counsel has every dreamed of. Everyone around Trump is going down. His closest allies are getting their lives opened up and charged for it. The Russia Collusion angle is never going to stick on the big man himself. His underlings managed that for him and will get charges for it. The real game now is whether Trump has the mental fortitude to realize that he is not personally in jeopardy the way his underlings are. If he panics, and purges Mueller, then everything changes. That would be an in office abuse of power that only Sean Hannity has the blindness not to see. Every leak around Trump shows him ranting and raving and going on about how to fire Mueller. Is he dumb enough to do it?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22676 Posts
April 10 2018 19:25 GMT
#1966
On April 11 2018 04:02 Wulfey_LA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2018 03:24 TheTenthDoc wrote:
It's pretty similar to what got Edwards charged (friends buying off his mistress). Who knows if it will end up equally anemic; certainly in a real court or the House Trump would end up with a similarly hung jury resulting in a mistrial.


My opinions about the Mueller investigation are changing. I don't think it is plausible that the investigation actually hits Trump, because President's can't go down for things they do as candidates. And the Comey firing would require a hostile congress to form an obstruction of justice charge. Big but here, the Mueller investigation is at this point latched itself on as a tick to practically the entire Trump campaign team. The latching onto all these guilty guys gives Mueller a legitimacy that no special counsel has every dreamed of. Everyone around Trump is going down. His closest allies are getting their lives opened up and charged for it. The Russia Collusion angle is never going to stick on the big man himself. His underlings managed that for him and will get charges for it. The real game now is whether Trump has the mental fortitude to realize that he is not personally in jeopardy the way his underlings are. If he panics, and purges Mueller, then everything changes. That would be an in office abuse of power that only Sean Hannity has the blindness not to see. Every leak around Trump shows him ranting and raving and going on about how to fire Mueller. Is he dumb enough to do it?

Trump being safe from the investigation assumes no evidence exists that can proves Trump knew.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 10 2018 19:36 GMT
#1967
There is not enough information to speculate about Trump’s exposure to criminal liability. But there is a lot of blood in the water that surrounds the White House.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
April 10 2018 20:08 GMT
#1968
On April 11 2018 04:25 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2018 04:02 Wulfey_LA wrote:
On April 11 2018 03:24 TheTenthDoc wrote:
It's pretty similar to what got Edwards charged (friends buying off his mistress). Who knows if it will end up equally anemic; certainly in a real court or the House Trump would end up with a similarly hung jury resulting in a mistrial.


My opinions about the Mueller investigation are changing. I don't think it is plausible that the investigation actually hits Trump, because President's can't go down for things they do as candidates. And the Comey firing would require a hostile congress to form an obstruction of justice charge. Big but here, the Mueller investigation is at this point latched itself on as a tick to practically the entire Trump campaign team. The latching onto all these guilty guys gives Mueller a legitimacy that no special counsel has every dreamed of. Everyone around Trump is going down. His closest allies are getting their lives opened up and charged for it. The Russia Collusion angle is never going to stick on the big man himself. His underlings managed that for him and will get charges for it. The real game now is whether Trump has the mental fortitude to realize that he is not personally in jeopardy the way his underlings are. If he panics, and purges Mueller, then everything changes. That would be an in office abuse of power that only Sean Hannity has the blindness not to see. Every leak around Trump shows him ranting and raving and going on about how to fire Mueller. Is he dumb enough to do it?

Trump being safe from the investigation assumes no evidence exists that can proves Trump knew.


There is substantial debate on the point of whether a sitting President is immune to indictment. Ken Starr and his team during Bill Clinton days say yes indict, Cass Sunstein, OLC, and John Dowd (purged by DJT for cowardice) say no.

Pro-indictment
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/02/27/can-donald-trump-be-indicted-while-serving-as-president/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6df1c1935dd4

Harvard Law professor Cass Sunstein insists that this quote “means you can’t indict and try a sitting president. He has to be removed first.” It really does not. In Federalist 69, Hamilton was assuring his contemporaries that they did not have to fear the creation of a “single magistrate.” He made this statement to contrast to “[t]he person of the king of Great Britain [who] is sacred and inviolable.” He was not expounding on inherent immunity and would hardly be making such an implied argument in an essay designed to quell concerns over presidential powers. Hamilton was assuring readers that a president could be stripped of his office and still prosecuted under the Constitution.

As the Hamilton essay suggests, the Framers were worried about the powers of the chief executive, and such immunity would presumably weigh heavily in that debate, as it should in our current debate. Reading that immunity into the Framers’ silence would permit a radical expansion of the powers of the presidency — something most textualists and civil libertarians resist.


Anti-indictment
https://www.justsecurity.org/46205/qa-cass-sunstein-impeachment-citizens-guide/

GOODMAN: The Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) has concluded that a sitting President is immune from criminal indictment while he is office. The OLC conclusion is predicated, in significant part, on the notion that an “alternative mechanism” exists: a President suspected of a most serious crime can be impeached instead and then prosecuted. In your analysis, however, a President cannot necessarily be impeached for many serious crimes unless they directly relate to an abuse of official power. If you are correct, does it mean at least one of the central reasons that the OLC gives for its conclusion that the President cannot be indicted is wrong?

SUNSTEIN:

Yes, it does. I agree with OLC’s conclusion, on Article II grounds, but there is a gap: Some serious crimes are not a legitimate basis for impeachment, but still, a sitting president cannot be prosecuted for those crimes.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 10 2018 20:10 GMT
#1969
why in the world would a president ever be immune from indictment? It goes against so many core values that established our constitution and government as a whole.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 10 2018 20:27 GMT
#1970
On April 11 2018 05:10 Mohdoo wrote:
why in the world would a president ever be immune from indictment? It goes against so many core values that established our constitution and government as a whole.

The president cannot be charged with a crime while in office(this is a majority legal opinion, rather than objective fact) The states or other parts of government do not have power of the head of the executive branch. You want to charge the president with a crime, congress needs to remove them from office and then the ex-president can be charged. The only group that has equal power to the presidency is congress.

Just remember that the next time you vote for a presidential candidate. You are voting to make them immune to criminal prosecution during their time in office.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-10 20:31:24
April 10 2018 20:30 GMT
#1971
On April 11 2018 05:27 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2018 05:10 Mohdoo wrote:
why in the world would a president ever be immune from indictment? It goes against so many core values that established our constitution and government as a whole.

The president cannot be charged with a crime while in office(this is a majority legal opinion, rather than objective fact) The states or other parts of government do not have power of the head of the executive branch. You want to charge the president with a crime, congress needs to remove them from office and then the ex-president can be charged. The only group that has equal power to the presidency is congress.

Just remember that the next time you vote for a presidential candidate. You are voting to make them immune to criminal prosecution during their time in office.


2018 votes can't come any sooner. Time for indictments to fly loose. I'm also curious how many Congress members are willing to go down with the boat rather than impeach if it came down to it.
Life?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 10 2018 20:36 GMT
#1972
On April 11 2018 05:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2018 05:27 Plansix wrote:
On April 11 2018 05:10 Mohdoo wrote:
why in the world would a president ever be immune from indictment? It goes against so many core values that established our constitution and government as a whole.

The president cannot be charged with a crime while in office(this is a majority legal opinion, rather than objective fact) The states or other parts of government do not have power of the head of the executive branch. You want to charge the president with a crime, congress needs to remove them from office and then the ex-president can be charged. The only group that has equal power to the presidency is congress.

Just remember that the next time you vote for a presidential candidate. You are voting to make them immune to criminal prosecution during their time in office.


2018 votes can't come any sooner. Time for indictments to fly loose. I'm also curious how many Congress members are willing to go down with the boat rather than impeach if it came down to it.

The Special counsel isn’t going to recommend charges against Trump. He is not going to charge a sitting president. I have no doubt that he is going to send his report to congress and leave it in their hands. And this congress won’t do anything. The majority leadership in both chambers lacks any real ability to lead. Their only skill was obstruction.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
April 10 2018 20:37 GMT
#1973
On April 11 2018 05:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2018 05:27 Plansix wrote:
On April 11 2018 05:10 Mohdoo wrote:
why in the world would a president ever be immune from indictment? It goes against so many core values that established our constitution and government as a whole.

The president cannot be charged with a crime while in office(this is a majority legal opinion, rather than objective fact) The states or other parts of government do not have power of the head of the executive branch. You want to charge the president with a crime, congress needs to remove them from office and then the ex-president can be charged. The only group that has equal power to the presidency is congress.

Just remember that the next time you vote for a presidential candidate. You are voting to make them immune to criminal prosecution during their time in office.


2018 votes can't come any sooner. Time for indictments to fly loose. I'm also curious how many Congress members are willing to go down with the boat rather than impeach if it came down to it.

none would be willing to go down with the boat rather than impeach if that were the actual choice they faced; but they're not goin gto actually face that. in practice it's much murkier; and they can often find an excuse to not impeach without exposing themselves to too much backlash. and remember that impeaching carries a considerable risk of its own they have to contend with.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 10 2018 20:42 GMT
#1974
They didn't mind impeaching Bill for sexual acts and that was a republican majority, so if they don't impeach for even worse causes, then I feel there will be major backlash. And I'm only basing this if they were able to do something against Trump.
Life?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22676 Posts
April 10 2018 20:46 GMT
#1975
On April 11 2018 05:42 ShoCkeyy wrote:
They didn't mind impeaching Bill for sexual acts and that was a republican majority, so if they don't impeach for even worse causes, then I feel there will be major backlash. And I'm only basing this if they were able to do something against Trump.
Republicans didn't mind impeaching a Democrat*
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 10 2018 20:51 GMT
#1976
On April 11 2018 05:27 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2018 05:10 Mohdoo wrote:
why in the world would a president ever be immune from indictment? It goes against so many core values that established our constitution and government as a whole.

The president cannot be charged with a crime while in office(this is a majority legal opinion, rather than objective fact)
The states or other parts of government do not have power of the head of the executive branch. You want to charge the president with a crime, congress needs to remove them from office and then the ex-president can be charged. The only group that has equal power to the presidency is congress.

Just remember that the next time you vote for a presidential candidate. You are voting to make them immune to criminal prosecution during their time in office.



yes but why? what philosophy is this consistent with? why would we want it to be like that?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24455 Posts
April 10 2018 20:58 GMT
#1977
On April 11 2018 03:22 Velr wrote:
If your justice system is SOOOO open to discrimination, you better scrap it. Justicia is blind for a reason... But well, you still got lynch mobs (juries)...
Baseline is, in court justice should win, not the law or another strange concept.


This feels like someone coming over to the abolish the police side?

From the cops, to the courtroom, to the prisons, they are all just as bad as you feel this incident was. It's not just an Alabama thing.

I recently posted how over 50% of verified gang members in Mississippi are white and 100% of the people convicted under their state gang law are black.

Just a sampling:

At about 12.40pm on 2 January 1996, Timothy Jackson took a jacket from the Maison Blanche department store in New Orleans, draped it over his arm, and walked out of the store without paying for it. When he was accosted by a security guard, Jackson said: “I just needed another jacket, man.”

A few months later Jackson was convicted of shoplifting and sent to Angola prison in Louisiana. That was 16 years ago. Today he is still incarcerated in Angola, and will stay there for the rest of his natural life having been condemned to die in jail. All for the theft of a jacket, worth $159.

Jackson, 53, is one of 3,281 prisoners in America serving life sentences with no chance of parole for non-violent crimes. Some, like him, were given the most extreme punishment short of execution for shoplifting; one was condemned to die in prison for siphoning petrol from a truck; another for stealing tools from a tool shed; yet another for attempting to cash a stolen cheque.


www.theguardian.com

This isn't justice by any measure. The reason no one (white people with the power to change it) does anything is because they simply don't think it matters enough, likely because they could never imagine it being them or someone they do care about.

Don't let people convince you these are one-off incidences, and not indicative of a justice system that is rotten to it's core.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-10 21:09:23
April 10 2018 21:05 GMT
#1978
On April 11 2018 05:51 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2018 05:27 Plansix wrote:
On April 11 2018 05:10 Mohdoo wrote:
why in the world would a president ever be immune from indictment? It goes against so many core values that established our constitution and government as a whole.

The president cannot be charged with a crime while in office(this is a majority legal opinion, rather than objective fact)
The states or other parts of government do not have power of the head of the executive branch. You want to charge the president with a crime, congress needs to remove them from office and then the ex-president can be charged. The only group that has equal power to the presidency is congress.

Just remember that the next time you vote for a presidential candidate. You are voting to make them immune to criminal prosecution during their time in office.



yes but why? what philosophy is this consistent with? why would we want it to be like that?

Because the checks and balanced between the three branches of government and how much power each of them has on the others is one of the most delicate problems of a democracy. Basically, you don’t want a « republic of judges » were the judicial branch has excessive power over the executive branch. Montesquieu himself was worried about the problem.

In an ideal world, it shouldn’t be a problem because judges would never deviate from their mission but the fact is that people are often biased and the one thing you want is the government to function and do its job.

We have the same system in France. The sitting president is immuned to prosecution until he finishes his term or until the parliament lifts his immunity. The good thing is that judges are waiting for you when you finish your term and then won’t let you go. It happened to Chirac and now it happens to Sarkozy.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 10 2018 21:13 GMT
#1979
Pretty much was Biff said. Any aspect of government can be abused, including bringing criminal charges against elected officials. The president is only beholden to the separate and equal branch of congress. It doesn’t make him/her immune to criminal prosecution forever, just during their time in office. The office is immune, not the person. The person just occupies the office of the president during their 4 year term.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24455 Posts
April 10 2018 21:19 GMT
#1980
I love that congress called Zuckerburg up to embarrass him and are to incompetent to do it and would be embarrassing themselves if anyone watching CSPAN understood technology better than these grandparents.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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