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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
October 18 2018 16:34 GMT
#17081
Judging from the article, it's for the entire world. My guess is that it is just a token effort to preempt governments enacting legislation at facebook for distributing misinformation.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 18 2018 16:43 GMT
#17082
I don't think any legislation will be enough. Facebook is a nation state at this point. Their user base is larger than the entire US population several times over. Anti-trusting and breaking them up is the only way to disperse this responsibility and power.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
October 18 2018 16:51 GMT
#17083
Facebook do not have the power of nation states. China for instance has no problem blocking facebook (though easily bypassed by vpn I imagine). I'm not really sure why you want to break up Facebook; I was just talking about how Facebook would want to avoid responsibility for the content posted on their site.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 18 2018 17:12 GMT
#17084
On October 19 2018 01:51 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Facebook do not have the power of nation states. China for instance has no problem blocking facebook (though easily bypassed by vpn I imagine). I'm not really sure why you want to break up Facebook; I was just talking about how Facebook would want to avoid responsibility for the content posted on their site.

Why wouldn't you want to break up Facebook? They dominate the internet and digital communication landscape. They own Instagram, which is the second most popular social media service in the US. They own the most popular chat service in Europe. Their revenue per year outpaces the budgets for all but the most wealthy states in the US. How much more dominate do they need to become?
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-18 17:20:56
October 18 2018 17:15 GMT
#17085
Theoretically, could they force Facebook to relinquish control of its network?. To explain: the FB app would still exist, but there could be competing interfaces for the same network.

And imo its quite obvious that all of silicon valley should break up. Windows and Office and IE should not all be the same company. facebook, instagram, whatsapp should break up. twitch should be independent from amazon. various google products should be spun off.

one big problem is how amazon can monopolize retail by subsidizing it with profits from server departnent, its unfair competition
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 18 2018 17:18 GMT
#17086
Forcing them to sell Instagram and Whatsapp would be a good start.
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
October 18 2018 17:22 GMT
#17087
amazon will soon have its own package delivery business and its own health insurance company btw
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
October 18 2018 17:23 GMT
#17088
On October 19 2018 01:26 Plansix wrote:
Facebook just released information about the Election War Room, which has to be the ugliest work space I have ever seen. It is impressive how ugly it is given the amount of money Facebook makes. But its like slightly over 20ish people for the entire country? Or the world? This room would be understaffed if they were broadcasting a college sports event or a TV production of Peter Pan. They have 200 million users in the US and this is their PR push to show they are on the whole election interference issue? Facebook constantly tests my ability to measure malice vs gross stupidity.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/18/17991924/facebook-election-war-room-misinformation-fake-news-whatsapp


These pictures look like some sort of high school government group. Kids pretending to be adults, they got to put together their own space so they can feel mature. They go to a nice high school, but not a nice nice high school.

We're definitely at the point (past really) where some of these big corporations have to be broken up. But considering we haven't broken up a big corporation in ages I'm not holding my breath on it ever happening.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 18 2018 17:35 GMT
#17089
i think the employees in the room are doing good work, but the issue here is that facebook has a tendency to do the right thing but for the wrong reason (PR) and to not nearly the extent they should be. this is a step in the right direction, but there should be more like 200 people in a really big space (or multiple spaces).
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 18 2018 17:53 GMT
#17090
On October 19 2018 02:35 ticklishmusic wrote:
i think the employees in the room are doing good work, but the issue here is that facebook has a tendency to do the right thing but for the wrong reason (PR) and to not nearly the extent they should be. this is a step in the right direction, but there should be more like 200 people in a really big space (or multiple spaces).

Ideally they would have one office per state with a group of employees reviewing all political ads and election activity over their network. You know, like a local news network.

On October 19 2018 02:23 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2018 01:26 Plansix wrote:
Facebook just released information about the Election War Room, which has to be the ugliest work space I have ever seen. It is impressive how ugly it is given the amount of money Facebook makes. But its like slightly over 20ish people for the entire country? Or the world? This room would be understaffed if they were broadcasting a college sports event or a TV production of Peter Pan. They have 200 million users in the US and this is their PR push to show they are on the whole election interference issue? Facebook constantly tests my ability to measure malice vs gross stupidity.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/18/17991924/facebook-election-war-room-misinformation-fake-news-whatsapp


These pictures look like some sort of high school government group. Kids pretending to be adults, they got to put together their own space so they can feel mature. They go to a nice high school, but not a nice nice high school.

We're definitely at the point (past really) where some of these big corporations have to be broken up. But considering we haven't broken up a big corporation in ages I'm not holding my breath on it ever happening.


It reminded me of a cross between the worst open office, a best buy TV display section and an elementary school classroom.

And I agree we are a long way from doing anything to break up these companies. But after this mid-term, I have hopes the Democratic party will move back to a more anti-corporation party at the state and hopefully federal level. Even in MA, the home of the liberals that love tech companies, shift has been noticeable.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-18 18:29:56
October 18 2018 18:18 GMT
#17091
On October 19 2018 02:15 Grumbels wrote:
Theoretically, could they force Facebook to relinquish control of its network?. To explain: the FB app would still exist, but there could be competing interfaces for the same network.

And imo its quite obvious that all of silicon valley should break up. Windows and Office and IE should not all be the same company. facebook, instagram, whatsapp should break up. twitch should be independent from amazon. various google products should be spun off.

one big problem is how amazon can monopolize retail by subsidizing it with profits from server departnent, its unfair competition


I'm happy to see the idea of breaking the companies up gain more traction, censorship Facebook isn't any better than wild west Facebook and is doing all sorts of harm to oppressed people (as any censorship rules will always do).

It would be interesting to see if you could force a break-up and cause the social media giants to split into a platform provider and ad serving implementations.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8271 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-18 18:30:13
October 18 2018 18:29 GMT
#17092
On October 19 2018 02:15 Grumbels wrote:
Theoretically, could they force Facebook to relinquish control of its network?. To explain: the FB app would still exist, but there could be competing interfaces for the same network.

And imo its quite obvious that all of silicon valley should break up. Windows and Office and IE should not all be the same company. facebook, instagram, whatsapp should break up. twitch should be independent from amazon. various google products should be spun off.

one big problem is how amazon can monopolize retail by subsidizing it with profits from server departnent, its unfair competition


This is incredibly short sighted to the point of idiocy. If a company gets broken up into pieces any time it produces any type of successful secondary software, innovation would literally stop dead in its tracks. It's especially ridiculous considering software like Windows, Office and IE are meant to heighten each other. So not only can you not make secondary software any more, you can't even add features to your primary one! Why waste money on anything if it's just going to split your company up?

I'm all for intervening with big companies to create competition or security, but splitting up core products from a company like that is not the way to go about it.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 18 2018 18:33 GMT
#17093
On October 19 2018 03:29 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2018 02:15 Grumbels wrote:
Theoretically, could they force Facebook to relinquish control of its network?. To explain: the FB app would still exist, but there could be competing interfaces for the same network.

And imo its quite obvious that all of silicon valley should break up. Windows and Office and IE should not all be the same company. facebook, instagram, whatsapp should break up. twitch should be independent from amazon. various google products should be spun off.

one big problem is how amazon can monopolize retail by subsidizing it with profits from server departnent, its unfair competition


This is incredibly short sighted to the point of idiocy. If a company gets broken up into pieces any time it produces any type of successful secondary software, innovation would literally stop dead in its tracks. It's especially ridiculous considering software like Windows, Office and IE are meant to heighten each other. So not only can you not make secondary software any more, you can't even add features to your primary one! Why waste money on anything if it's just going to split your company up?

I'm all for intervening with big companies to create competition or security, but splitting up core products from a company like that is not the way to go about it.


For what it's worth Facebook didn't invent Instagram or WhatsApp.

Also Office and IE aren't novel products, both are predated by other software that does the same thing. There's nothing innovative about either of them.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 18 2018 18:40 GMT
#17094
On October 19 2018 03:29 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2018 02:15 Grumbels wrote:
Theoretically, could they force Facebook to relinquish control of its network?. To explain: the FB app would still exist, but there could be competing interfaces for the same network.

And imo its quite obvious that all of silicon valley should break up. Windows and Office and IE should not all be the same company. facebook, instagram, whatsapp should break up. twitch should be independent from amazon. various google products should be spun off.

one big problem is how amazon can monopolize retail by subsidizing it with profits from server departnent, its unfair competition


This is incredibly short sighted to the point of idiocy. If a company gets broken up into pieces any time it produces any type of successful secondary software, innovation would literally stop dead in its tracks. It's especially ridiculous considering software like Windows, Office and IE are meant to heighten each other. So not only can you not make secondary software any more, you can't even add features to your primary one! Why waste money on anything if it's just going to split your company up?

I'm all for intervening with big companies to create competition or security, but splitting up core products from a company like that is not the way to go about it.

Whatsapp and instagram are acquisitions.

What do you mean by innovation here? Like integrating your ad platform?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 18 2018 18:59 GMT
#17095
The reason Windows got anti-trusted by congress was because they were forcing companies to install windows internet net explorer on all machines that came with windows. And some other ways early windows was designed. Web browsers were not free in the dial up era of the internet.

In the case of Facebook, the market share of the company is so huge that is equal to one of the three major religions in size. And that doesn’t include Instagrams 800 million users. Facebook is so dominate that the best way alert people to that dominance is to post on Facebook or Instagram. There is no other media service with even close to the same reach.

Also, Facebook is designed to be addictive to use. High level managers and directors have been beating that drum for a while now. Over the years Facebook has spent a lot of money studying the physiology of using their service and creating an addictive feedback loop.

There isn’t a part of Facebook you can dig into a feel good about. They are a service that is so data hungry that they will make data profiles for people who don’t use Facebook, but live with Facebook users. Their ad delivery programs are so complex that Facebook often can’t tell why someone received a specific ad.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44202 Posts
October 18 2018 20:01 GMT
#17096
On October 16 2018 08:15 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2018 06:27 Plansix wrote:
On October 16 2018 06:09 schaf wrote:
I have the distinct feeling politicians just don't give a damn anymore, in the US or over here in Europe. Nobody's accountable for anything, blame gets shifted left right and center.

No wonder populists with easy answers and the mirage if a moral code are so popular :/

The latest Last Week Tonight episode had a clip of Trump saying something like that even if SA murdered Kashoggi he wouldn't stop selling them weapons because look at how much money they bring. It's this for real or out of context? I'm never really sure with that show.

That was the quote and it is in context. He doesn’t want to hurt US jobs over the murder of a non-citizen, as he put it. But also said there would be serious consequences if it turned out to be SA who did it, whatever that means.

But it doesn’t help that we have no ambassador to SA and the primary point of contact for SA is the president’s son in law who’s family is deep in debt.

Honestly, I would not cancel a billion dollar contract over a murder either. Especially since there are other people willing to sell to SA.

This is the argument that prevented the League of Nations using sanctions to avert WW2.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44202 Posts
October 18 2018 20:02 GMT
#17097
On October 16 2018 11:55 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Stormy Daniels has to pay Trumps legal fees.
Which means the people who donated to her gofundme for her legal fees are literally paying Trump.
He just keeps winning.

Paying Trump’s lawyers you mean. The ones he’s currently Twitter feuding with.
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-18 20:49:42
October 18 2018 20:47 GMT
#17098
On October 19 2018 03:59 Plansix wrote:
The reason Windows got anti-trusted by congress was because they were forcing companies to install windows internet net explorer on all machines that came with windows. And some other ways early windows was designed. Web browsers were not free in the dial up era of the internet.

In the case of Facebook, the market share of the company is so huge that is equal to one of the three major religions in size. And that doesn’t include Instagrams 800 million users. Facebook is so dominate that the best way alert people to that dominance is to post on Facebook or Instagram. There is no other media service with even close to the same reach.

Also, Facebook is designed to be addictive to use. High level managers and directors have been beating that drum for a while now. Over the years Facebook has spent a lot of money studying the physiology of using their service and creating an addictive feedback loop.

There isn’t a part of Facebook you can dig into a feel good about. They are a service that is so data hungry that they will make data profiles for people who don’t use Facebook, but live with Facebook users. Their ad delivery programs are so complex that Facebook often can’t tell why someone received a specific ad.

I find it incredibly dubious that the biggest companies in the world, that control so much of our digital infrastructure, are basically ad companies. Advertisements are corporate propaganda, it’s psychological trickery to persuade you to buy products you don’t need based on some emotional reason. Meanwhile overconsumption is a huge problem. I personally think the ad industry just needs to die, or at least, handicapped with burdensome regulation and taxation in order to make companies such as Google and Facebook unprofitable. We now live in a world where many talented engineers are devoting their life’s work to making the average user click 0.1% more often on some Facebook ad.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
October 18 2018 20:49 GMT
#17099
On October 19 2018 05:47 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2018 03:59 Plansix wrote:
The reason Windows got anti-trusted by congress was because they were forcing companies to install windows internet net explorer on all machines that came with windows. And some other ways early windows was designed. Web browsers were not free in the dial up era of the internet.

In the case of Facebook, the market share of the company is so huge that is equal to one of the three major religions in size. And that doesn’t include Instagrams 800 million users. Facebook is so dominate that the best way alert people to that dominance is to post on Facebook or Instagram. There is no other media service with even close to the same reach.

Also, Facebook is designed to be addictive to use. High level managers and directors have been beating that drum for a while now. Over the years Facebook has spent a lot of money studying the physiology of using their service and creating an addictive feedback loop.

There isn’t a part of Facebook you can dig into a feel good about. They are a service that is so data hungry that they will make data profiles for people who don’t use Facebook, but live with Facebook users. Their ad delivery programs are so complex that Facebook often can’t tell why someone received a specific ad.

I find it incredibly dubious that the biggest companies in the world, that control so much of our digital infrastructure, are basically ad companies. Advertisements are corporate propaganda, it’s psychological trickery to persuade you to buy products you don’t need based on some emotional reason. Meanwhile overconsumption is a huge problem. I personally think the ad industry just needs to die, or at least, handicapped with burdensome regulation and taxation in order to make companies such as Google and Facebook unprofitable.


Google is how 99% of people do 90% of the work in my industry (Software development)

You take away google and everythings going to crash
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
October 18 2018 20:53 GMT
#17100
Too big to fail is another reason to start downsizing though. That much widespread reliance on a private entity means at least part of it should probably be public.
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