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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
I imagine these stories get a lot of traction when they come out because for a lot of people it makes them feel vindicated, like a 4 year long "I told you so" | ||
ShoCkeyy
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/duncan-hunter-affairs-charged_us_5b902451e4b0162f472961b7 Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) allegedly spent campaign cash on affairs with five separate individuals, according to prosecutors who reportedly claim to have photographic evidence. Hunter and his wife, Margaret, were indicted last month on 60 charges related to the alleged misuse of $250,000 in campaign funds for personal expenses such as lavish vacations and dinners. The couple has pleaded not guilty. The San Diego Union-Tribune is now reporting that the 47-page charging document alleges that the congressman had “personal relationships” with at least five individuals, none of whom are identified. Hunter’s lawyer, Gregory Vega, objected to that part of the investigation in an August letter to the Justice Department, the paper reported. Vega argued that prosecutors are pursuing criminal charges for conduct that falls into gray areas of civil election law. “This is true even for personal indiscretions of the congressman that the prosecutors seem intent on charging,” Vega wrote. “The supposed reason given for including these details is that they reflect spending of campaign funds for extramarital infidelities and excessive drinking.” Vega claimed that the prosecutors told him they had photos of Hunter’s alleged affairs. Even so, he said, the indiscretions didn’t rise to the level of a crime. “While there may be evidence of infidelity, irresponsibility or alcohol dependence, once properly understood, the underlying facts do not equate to criminal activity,” Vega wrote. | ||
iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On September 06 2018 10:37 Tachion wrote: Everyone from this administration that ends up quoted about Trump all say the same thing. Whether it's Cohn, Dowd, Bannon, Kelly, Tillerson, McMaster, perhaps even Mattis, they all see him as a crazy idiot. And these are his closest allies. Where are the people coming out of this administration for Trump like there was for Bush, saying that he's actually more intelligent than people give him credit for. The only people who think he's playing 4d chess are the memers who play out elaborate ruses to try to make sense of his irrational behavior. I imagine these stories get a lot of traction when they come out because for a lot of people it makes them feel vindicated, like a 4 year long "I told you so" I won't lie, I do a lot of that with Brexiteers. I had a hearty laugh when the news article came out about Cornwall suffering now it's not getting those massive EU subsidies it voted to go without, and an even heartier laugh when someone did an Op-Ed complaining about people like me saying 'I told you so'. If I don't get to be happy about securing my country's future, I'm sure as hell going to be happy that the people who sold it are suffering for their extraordinarily shortsighted decision. As to the news; it's most likely someone trying to set themselves up a parachute for when they leave/are kicked out, as other posters have suggested. A lot of people are going to make money doing tell-alls about the insanity of this administration. Even I'll buy one eventually. | ||
Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
On September 06 2018 10:37 Tachion wrote: Everyone from this administration that ends up quoted about Trump all say the same thing. Whether it's Cohn, Dowd, Bannon, Kelly, Tillerson, McMaster, perhaps even Mattis, they all see him as a crazy idiot. And these are his closest allies. Where are the people coming out of this administration for Trump like there was for Bush, saying that he's actually more intelligent than people give him credit for. The only people who think he's playing 4d chess are the memers who play out elaborate ruses to try to make sense of his irrational behavior. I imagine these stories get a lot of traction when they come out because for a lot of people it makes them feel vindicated, like a 4 year long "I told you so" The op-ed was more along those lines: Trump is bad, but don't worry, the grown-ups are in charge and are capable of controlling him. And while it's nice to have military advisers surrounding Trump that can prevent him from arbitrarily invading Venezuala or North Korea, it's awfully close to a military junta isn't it? And they haven't exactly done anything to prevent the evil immigration policies, the disastrous handling of the hurricane aftermath in Puerto Rico, the corporate give-aways and so on. | ||
Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10109 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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farvacola
United States18818 Posts
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JimmiC
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On September 06 2018 22:25 JimmiC wrote: I completely agree, I think it is someones assistant or something. It would be really funny if it was the Trump daughter that you never hear about. And she is pissed about it and decided to bring pops down. I will become a believer in the Trump 4D chess meme if it turns out the writer is Trump. That'd be the ultimate news spectacle event. | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain17852 Posts
On September 06 2018 23:07 ticklishmusic wrote: Booker just threatened to release currently withheld documents, even if it meant getting kicked out of the Senate. Causing all sorts of chaos now. How do you get kicked out of the senate? There's a procedure for that? What happens if in the (presumably) subsequent election, he is reinstated? | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On September 06 2018 23:13 JimmiC wrote: It really feels like so many of these people care more about ratings than they do about running the country! Everything is so freaking dramatic. It's more that Republicans are doing everything they can to railroad through Kavanaugh, and the Dems are pulling out all the stops to stop it. The Dems are basically saying "show it to us if you have nothing to hide let's do this right". | ||
ShoCkeyy
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On September 06 2018 23:21 ShoCkeyy wrote: It does because if he's saying one thing under oath, while writing something different than what he said somewhere else, he's lying, and a reason for his nomination to be thrown out the window. At least that's how I understand it. This sort of thing won't nab him; he is too well prepared. He will just say that is what he thought back then but not now. Once he gets confirmed he doesn't have to lie anymore and can go back to being a political operative. | ||
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