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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 06 2018 02:45 farvacola wrote: The interesting thing is that the other A-listers for this nomination do not have the stink of political hackery the way Kavanaugh does. As horrifying as their jurisprudence is, Barrett or Kethledge would have had smooth sailing at this stage by comparison. I legit don’t understand how this guy was the pick over all the other conservative judges on the short list. The conservative money machine must love him. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18286 Posts
On September 06 2018 02:49 Plansix wrote: I legit don’t understand how this guy was the pick over all the other conservative judges on the short list. The conservative money machine must love him. Or Trump does, because he thinks he'll go easy on him if the SC actually has to rule on anything to do with him. Not sure the other A-listed candidates were as willing to give the president all that leeway on being subpoenad as Kavanaugh apparently is. | ||
KwarK
United States43972 Posts
On September 05 2018 23:00 JimmiC wrote: Point taken, it still disturbs me that people are are taking it into their own hands to make these kind of decisions. Sure there will be times when I agree, and times when the majority of Americans agree, but there will be other times when they don't. There is a reason they are not meant to have this level of power. I feel like this is something the people who elected him need to own responsibility for. If they didn’t want a president who could be fooled by this they shouldn’t have elected one. They knew going in that everyone around him could manipulate and control him and that he would repeat whatever he saw on Fox and Friends that morning. The fault is more with the people who knowingly elected someone incapable of doing the job than with those exploiting it. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On September 06 2018 02:59 Acrofales wrote: Or Trump does, because he thinks he'll go easy on him if the SC actually has to rule on anything to do with him. Not sure the other A-listed candidates were as willing to give the president all that leeway on being subpoenad as Kavanaugh apparently is. The key distinguishing feature of Kavanaugh seems to be that he is insanely thirsty for the job. I imagine Trump and Kavanaugh had a very positive discussion regarding loyalty and the importance of maintaining the integrity of the executive branch. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45853 Posts
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/mb4m9v/sen-marco-rubio-just-threatened-to-take-care-of-alex-jones-to-his-face | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Sen Whitehouse just asked about all the dark money behind the Federalists push for Kavanaugh. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On September 06 2018 02:49 Plansix wrote: I legit don’t understand how this guy was the pick over all the other conservative judges on the short list. The conservative money machine must love him. what about the scuttlebutt/rumors that Kennedy had already arranged for him to be picked as replacement? (plus what others said about kavanaugh having very high deference to the executive, very prone to letting trump get away with anything) | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 06 2018 03:23 zlefin wrote: what about the scuttlebutt/rumors that Kennedy had already arranged for him to be picked as replacement? (plus what others said about kavanaugh having very high deference to the executive, very prone to letting trump get away with anything) Oh, that part makes perfect sense to me, but I until I see more that scuttlebutt and rumor I don’t like propagating that theory. But I do agree that this entire process doesn’t pass the smell test in any way. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On September 06 2018 03:23 zlefin wrote: what about the scuttlebutt/rumors that Kennedy had already arranged for him to be picked as replacement? (plus what others said about kavanaugh having very high deference to the executive, very prone to letting trump get away with anything) WH press person (the dude not SHS) refused to deny the rumor that Kennedy only retired on the promise that Kavanaugh would be his replacement. He was asked multiple times but no denial. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On September 06 2018 03:07 KwarK wrote: I feel like this is something the people who elected him need to own responsibility for. If they didn’t want a president who could be fooled by this they shouldn’t have elected one. They knew going in that everyone around him could manipulate and control him and that he would repeat whatever he saw on Fox and Friends that morning. The fault is more with the people who knowingly elected someone incapable of doing the job than with those exploiting it. This article written anonymously by a senior Trump administration official says that members of his cabinet are actively working to defy him and create a two track presidency, in which the dumbest things that Trump wants are resisted. The result is that when trump wants to do things like lift the Russian sanctions, the administration's public actions are actually to condemn Russia and strengthen sanctions. Cabinet members even discussed the 25th. This shows the basic risk that trump voters took - that he would not appoint a cabinet that was willing to provide a correction of his personality flaws, thereby avoiding the destructive potential of those flaws. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
The Times just published an anonymous, but vetted(NYT knows who gave it to them), Op-ed by a White House staffer that backs up Bob Woodward and goes into more details. Its headline is truly eye catching and click baity, but the substance is there. I’ve linked it below and its worth a read in full. I don’t have a lot of sympathy for someone who continues to work for this administration, but I do respect the fear that if they resigned someone who didn’t care would take their place. Source | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On September 06 2018 05:22 Plansix wrote: Today is wild. The Times just published an anonymous, but vetted(NYT knows who gave it to them), Op-ed by a White House staffer that backs up Bob Woodward and goes into more details. Its headline is truly eye catching and click baity, but the substance is there. I’ve linked it below and its worth a read in full. I don’t have a lot of sympathy for someone who continues to work for this administration, but I do respect the fear that if they resigned someone who didn’t care would take their place. Source We need the writing analysis experts to figure out who it is. My money is on Cohn, Kelly, or Mattis. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Edit: Some background on this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna868961 | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On September 06 2018 05:29 On_Slaught wrote: Wasn't it reported that Kelly stays on because he thinks he is saving the country? Wouldnt be surprised if it was him. Edit: Some background on this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna868961 He likely *is* saving the country. It really speaks to what a shitty situation we are in. We are all cheering for Cohn, Kelly and Mattis. lmao | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22344 Posts
The top isn't going to risk exposing themselves like that and won't be happy that this is now in the open. It will likely be some low level staffer that felt the need to come forward. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On September 06 2018 05:22 Plansix wrote: Today is wild. The Times just published an anonymous, but vetted(NYT knows who gave it to them), Op-ed by a White House staffer that backs up Bob Woodward and goes into more details. Its headline is truly eye catching and click baity, but the substance is there. I’ve linked it below and its worth a read in full. I don’t have a lot of sympathy for someone who continues to work for this administration, but I do respect the fear that if they resigned someone who didn’t care would take their place. Source I think this was a really bad idea by whoever wrote and submitted this. This jeopardizes the work they are doing by drawing attention to the fact that a wide range of people in Trump's administration are actively trying to undermine his agenda. This is flat out admitting that people are constantly working against Trump. This is a very embarrassing thing for Trump. I would not be surprised by a reactionary purge of his staff after this. This is just reckless, if it is true. Which I am assuming it is. | ||
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