US Politics Mega-thread - Page 659

On August 31 2018 02:35 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
pay relative to private section was more about the specific claims that this won't affect the ability to retain or attract new talent.

On August 31 2018 03:40 Plansix wrote:
On the topic that DeSantis may or may not be a super duper racist, it appears he was an admin of a less than Not-Racist facebook group.

Source

Now I will say, ThinkProgress is not the most reliable source in the world, but DeSantis being an admin of the facebook group has been reported on in the past. And the group is still be promoted by people who work for DeSantis.

It is nice when people live up to all your expectations.

On August 31 2018 04:43 JimmiC wrote:
I actually really hate this dog whistle thing, it makes me nervous about accidentally offending people by complimenting them.

My mother is a very outgoing senior and loves children and is a positive optimist. When she see them out with their parents and they are being well behaved she often compliments the parents on how cute and well behaved they are and asks the parents if she can give the kids a sucker. Some say yes some say no but I don't think any have been offended by hearing that their kids are cute and well behaved.

Now after reading about the articulate thing (forget about the monkey talk for a moment because to me that is a different level). I am wondering if I should advise my mother (who looks white) to only do this to white families because other races may think that calling their kids is well behaved is a back handed compliment, because they won't know that she does it to all families. Which will then push to a different kind of racism because now she is only complimenting white people. So the safest thing is just to not compliment anyone, which is sad.

My question after that long winded story is what do you advise? And if she is friendly and doesn't have tone of surprise can she continue how she is?

On August 31 2018 04:04 Mohdoo wrote:


He might be racist, but I don't think that means his monkey wording was racism spilling over. I still think it was intended to be easily dismissed by the vast majority of republicans while still pissing off democrats.

Few things upset republicans more than one of their own being called a racist. Get the other side to call you racist so that your supporters actually vote is a good method. At this point, the word 'monkey' has caused so many people so much headache that I refuse to believe even the most garbage of human beings don't know what they are getting into.

On August 31 2018 04:43 JimmiC wrote:
I actually really hate this dog whistle thing, it makes me nervous about accidentally offending people by complimenting them.

My mother is a very outgoing senior and loves children and is a positive optimist. When she see them out with their parents and they are being well behaved she often compliments the parents on how cute and well behaved they are and asks the parents if she can give the kids a sucker. Some say yes some say no but I don't think any have been offended by hearing that their kids are cute and well behaved.

Now after reading about the articulate thing (forget about the monkey talk for a moment because to me that is a different level). I am wondering if I should advise my mother (who looks white) to only do this to white families because other races may think that calling their kids is well behaved is a back handed compliment, because they won't know that she does it to all families. Which will then push to a different kind of racism because now she is only complimenting white people. So the safest thing is just to not compliment anyone, which is sad.

My question after that long winded story is what do you advise? And if she is friendly and doesn't have tone of surprise can she continue how she is?

On August 31 2018 04:43 JimmiC wrote:
I actually really hate this dog whistle thing, it makes me nervous about accidentally offending people by complimenting them.

My mother is a very outgoing senior and loves children and is a positive optimist. When she see them out with their parents and they are being well behaved she often compliments the parents on how cute and well behaved they are and asks the parents if she can give the kids a sucker. Some say yes some say no but I don't think any have been offended by hearing that their kids are cute and well behaved.

Now after reading about the articulate thing (forget about the monkey talk for a moment because to me that is a different level). I am wondering if I should advise my mother (who looks white) to only do this to white families because other races may think that calling their kids is well behaved is a back handed compliment, because they won't know that she does it to all families. Which will then push to a different kind of racism because now she is only complimenting white people. So the safest thing is just to not compliment anyone, which is sad.

My question after that long winded story is what do you advise? And if she is friendly and doesn't have tone of surprise can she continue how she is?

On August 31 2018 04:53 Danglars wrote:

Is this the political pragmatism of ignoring obvious dog-whistling, or you actual think it wasn’t a dog whistle?

The latter is my position, but at least three people thought that was ridiculously naive and/or ignoring myriad years of American history.

On August 31 2018 05:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:
It only gets really obvious when people double down on their fake idioms.

Like last year (I think) when there was that whole "gorilla/guerilla tennis" thing. Guerilla tennis was not a thing ever, and "monkey it up" is not a real idiom either (and contextually wasn't close to the actual verb usage of monkey).

And it should be really easy to say "oops, I stumbled on words", but no, people keep insisting that a never used phrase is actually really common, despite Google existing.

On August 31 2018 06:04 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it deserves about as much attention as me calling Jared Cannonier the killer gorilla. any how, the term "guerilla tennis" has been used in the past. had this commentator guy had a history of BS i could see firing him. firing him was silly.

i'm really glad Dan Shulman diversified his income and minimized his time on ESPN. good career move to avoid the idiots running ESPN as much as possible.

i'll need a flow chart informing me of what animals i'm allowed to call certain athletes.

On August 31 2018 06:17 Gorsameth wrote:
Any form of ape.
I'd avoid dogs.
definitely not pigs.

On August 31 2018 06:09 Plansix wrote:
Yeah, you should avoid calling black people any form of gorilla. It’s a bad look.
But its really not that complicated. Don't call black people apes, gorillas or monkeys.