US Politics Mega-thread - Page 660

On August 31 2018 06:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote:

Sylvester Ritter is the "Junk Yard Dog"
Jerome Williiams is the "Junk Yard Dog"

generally speaking, athletes like being called various kinds of animals.



what about beast? can i call a black athlete a beast? Jared wants to be called gorilla. am i allowed to call him a gorilla then? or no? i'm too lazy to research all this stuff... just PM me the excel spreadsheet and i'll have my admin assistant give me a synopsis.

On August 31 2018 06:21 zlefin wrote:

you sound like your'e more interested in snarking and pretending there aren't legitimate issues than in actually trying to understand what should/should not be said.
i.e. regardless of your intent; that's what your tone is conveying.

On August 31 2018 05:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
regarding this guerilla tennis thing.,.
guerilla tennis was a term nike used to promote and//or amplify the andre agassi//pete sampras rivalry.
so umm ya guerilla tennis was a thing,

https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/08/pete-sampras-andre-agassi-tennis-match-streets-of-new-york

On August 31 2018 06:29 JimmiC wrote:

A good example of Dog Whistle racism in sports is people claiming everyone from Africa is lying about their age. Serge Ibaka who has caught a lot of it recently wrote about it on his twitter.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2719392-serge-ibaka-releases-statement-regarding-age-discrepancy-rumors

On August 31 2018 06:28 Plansix wrote:
Folks, this what we call an argument in bad faith and is so common when discussing racism on the internet. JimmyR(as opposed to JimmiC) doesn't care about racism or if he is accidentally racist, he just wants to passive aggressively mock the entire concept and to see if he can get people who do care to explain it to him. He will promptly ignore anything anyone provides to him because, again, he doesn't really care. It is all a game to him.

When discussing racism online, it is key to understand the difference between Jimmies and tell if you are talking to a JimmyR or a JimmiC. One of them in invested and interested in understanding racism, the context surrounding it, and being critical of his own action. He is invested in not be associated with racists and is troubled that he might be, even accidentally.. The other one is simply entertaining himself by presenting faux misunderstanding, asking for advice and then mocking the response. The latter needs to be cut off quickly, because his goal is to waste your time. To see how much he can get out of you before you become annoyed, at which point he will claim victory. Your time has value so don't waste it, because every JimmyR is trying to make sure you won't have the patience to discuss racism with a JimmiC.

On August 31 2018 07:19 On_Slaught wrote:


Why is this post glowing (yellow)? Are the aliens coming for Plansix?!

On August 31 2018 04:43 JimmiC wrote:
I actually really hate this dog whistle thing, it makes me nervous about accidentally offending people by complimenting them.

My mother is a very outgoing senior and loves children and is a positive optimist. When she see them out with their parents and they are being well behaved she often compliments the parents on how cute and well behaved they are and asks the parents if she can give the kids a sucker. Some say yes some say no but I don't think any have been offended by hearing that their kids are cute and well behaved.

Now after reading about the articulate thing (forget about the monkey talk for a moment because to me that is a different level). I am wondering if I should advise my mother (who looks white) to only do this to white families because other races may think that calling their kids is well behaved is a back handed compliment, because they won't know that she does it to all families. Which will then push to a different kind of racism because now she is only complimenting white people. So the safest thing is just to not compliment anyone, which is sad.

My question after that long winded story is what do you advise? And if she is friendly and doesn't have tone of surprise can she continue how she is?

On August 31 2018 11:56 LuckyFool wrote:
Gillum doesn’t seem like the kind of candidate that can win statewide in Florida to me. Maybe in a more liberal state like Rhode Island or Massachusetts I’d give him a serious chance but Florida is a much steeper hill to climb than people realize.

You have to really appeal to an extremely wide range of people to win statewide in Florida. Young people will love him, but how is he going to sway large swaths of the moderate/independent vote while holding such extreme/socialist views? It’s a shame because DeSantis seems like a fairly terrible candidate in his own regard. Maybe I’m wrong and Gillum will win, both the governor and the senate races in Florida at least will be very interesting to follow.

A Texas judge denied the motion by the conspiracy theorist Alex Jones to dismiss a defamation lawsuit brought against him and his Infowars operation by the parents of a Sandy Hook shooting victim, in a ruling released on Thursday.

The lawsuit was filed in state district court in Austin by Veronique De La Rosa and Leonard Pozner, parents of Noah Pozner, who was 6 years old when he was killed in the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

On his radio broadcast and in videos, Mr. Jones for years spread bogus claims that the shooting was a “false flag,” an event staged by the government as part of an effort to confiscate Americans’ firearms, and that the parents of the children killed were “crisis actors.”

After Mr. Pozner succeeded in getting an Infowars video casting doubt on the shooting removed from YouTube, Mr. Jones showed his audience Mr. Pozner’s personal information and maps to addresses associated with his family, court documents say. Mr. Jones also falsely accused Ms. De La Rosa of participating in a faked interview with Anderson Cooper of CNN after the shooting, according to court documents.

Subsequent death threats and harassment have forced the Pozner family to move seven times. They currently live in hiding.

The Pozner case is one of three defamation lawsuits, including another in Texas and one in Connecticut, filed by relatives of nine Sandy Hook victims. Lawyers for Mr. Jones on Thursday sought the dismissal on free speech grounds of a defamation case filed with the Austin court by Neil Heslin, whose son, Jesse Lewis, was killed at Sandy Hook.

On August 31 2018 11:56 LuckyFool wrote:
Gillum doesn’t seem like the kind of candidate that can win statewide in Florida to me. Maybe in a more liberal state like Rhode Island or Massachusetts I’d give him a serious chance but Florida is a much steeper hill to climb than people realize.

You have to really appeal to an extremely wide range of people to win statewide in Florida. Young people will love him, but how is he going to sway large swaths of the moderate/independent vote while holding such extreme/socialist views? It’s a shame because DeSantis seems like a fairly terrible candidate in his own regard. Maybe I’m wrong and Gillum will win, both the governor and the senate races in Florida at least will be very interesting to follow.

On August 31 2018 20:45 Silvanel wrote:
I must admit i am afraid of those langauge things You guys are discussing right now. To me it all has this newspeak Orwellian vibe. Assigning hidden meanings to ordinary phrases, hidding messages inside plain speak. Compliments being insults and on top of that Trumpian: truth being lie, lie being truth and total disregard for facts. World political discourse is drifitng into strange place. One i am not comfortable with.