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Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11952 Posts
17 hours ago
#118241
On August 18 2026 07:19 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2026 06:16 Falling wrote:
Trump is an imperialist who thinks like a mercantalist, not a capitalist. If he could've had his way a year ago, he and the Witkoff faction would ditched NATO and teamed up with Putin his continentalist land empire.

I’d be surprised if Trump could define any of those words.


That is unfair. I am pretty sure that Trump knows what a year is.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24256 Posts
11 hours ago
#118242
What is even more politically popular than data centers and nuclear power plants? Medicare for all. So naturally, Democrats' leadership is against it.

House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries announced his opposition to Medicare For All on the same day a CBS News poll found 90 percent of Democratic voters support the idea - and 72 hours after a Yale University study showed the program would save 114,000 American lives and $1 trillion every single year.


https://www.levernews.com/hakeem-jeffries-betrayal-shows-why-democratic-voters-are-so-enraged/

Are there any policies like that for Republicans and Trump?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States618 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-18 04:51:53
11 hours ago
#118243
First, any poll that asks about Medicare For All should also ask respondents if they think they keep their private health plan after it's enacted. That was key some years ago when a similar question was asked of respondents. Second, this is an update to the 2020 study, which means the lead author was an advisor to the Sanders campaign. Kind of like asking if Data Centers actually increase available potable water and decrease electricity rates for consumers from an Nvidia consultant. Third, Jeffries is smart enough to know that the assumptions should be doubted until peer review and independent analysis. And that polling is almost a freebie "what kind of plans should the Democratic party focus on" (96% inflation, 91% tax the wealthy, 92% stop Trump's policies, that's a lot of >90% "focus on" response)
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24256 Posts
10 hours ago
#118244
On August 18 2026 13:49 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2026 13:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
What is even more politically popular than data centers and nuclear power plants? Medicare for all. So naturally, Democrats' leadership is against it.

House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries announced his opposition to Medicare For All on the same day a CBS News poll found 90 percent of Democratic voters support the idea - and 72 hours after a Yale University study showed the program would save 114,000 American lives and $1 trillion every single year.


https://www.levernews.com/hakeem-jeffries-betrayal-shows-why-democratic-voters-are-so-enraged/

Are there any policies like that for Republicans and Trump?


First, any poll that asks about Medicare For All should also ask respondents if they think they keep their private health plan after it's enacted. That was key some years ago when a similar question was asked of respondents. + Show Spoiler +
Second, this is an update to the 2020 study, which means the lead author was an advisor to the Sanders campaign. Kind of like asking if Data Centers actually increase available potable water and decrease electricity rates for consumers from an Nvidia consultant.
Third, Jeffries is smart enough to know that the assumptions should be doubted until peer review and independent analysis. And that polling is almost a freebie "what kind of plans should the Democratic party focus on" (96% inflation, 91% tax the wealthy, 92% stop Trump's policies, that's a lot of >90% "focus on" response)

Well, even then, it still seems more popular than data centers and nuclear power

A November 2025 poll by Data for Progress found that 65 percent supported Medicare for All when described as national health insurance replacing most private insurance.

The survey found 78 percent support among Democrats, 71 percent among independents and 49 percent among Republicans. And even after respondents were told that Medicare for All would eliminate most private insurance and require higher taxes, support remained above 60 percent.


Also worth noting:
His position is a notable shift from earlier years, when congressional records show he co-sponsored Medicare for All legislation introduced in 2019 and 2021.


https://www.newsweek.com/medicare-for-all-what-polls-reveal-as-hakeem-jeffries-rejects-proposal-12332745

I'm guessing that's a "no" as far as you know on the Trump question?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States618 Posts
10 hours ago
#118245
On August 18 2026 14:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2026 13:49 dyhb wrote:
On August 18 2026 13:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
What is even more politically popular than data centers and nuclear power plants? Medicare for all. So naturally, Democrats' leadership is against it.

House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries announced his opposition to Medicare For All on the same day a CBS News poll found 90 percent of Democratic voters support the idea - and 72 hours after a Yale University study showed the program would save 114,000 American lives and $1 trillion every single year.


https://www.levernews.com/hakeem-jeffries-betrayal-shows-why-democratic-voters-are-so-enraged/

Are there any policies like that for Republicans and Trump?


First, any poll that asks about Medicare For All should also ask respondents if they think they keep their private health plan after it's enacted. That was key some years ago when a similar question was asked of respondents. + Show Spoiler +
Second, this is an update to the 2020 study, which means the lead author was an advisor to the Sanders campaign. Kind of like asking if Data Centers actually increase available potable water and decrease electricity rates for consumers from an Nvidia consultant.
Third, Jeffries is smart enough to know that the assumptions should be doubted until peer review and independent analysis. And that polling is almost a freebie "what kind of plans should the Democratic party focus on" (96% inflation, 91% tax the wealthy, 92% stop Trump's policies, that's a lot of >90% "focus on" response)

Well, even then, it still seems more popular than data centers and nuclear power

Show nested quote +
A November 2025 poll by Data for Progress found that 65 percent supported Medicare for All when described as national health insurance replacing most private insurance.

The survey found 78 percent support among Democrats, 71 percent among independents and 49 percent among Republicans. And even after respondents were told that Medicare for All would eliminate most private insurance and require higher taxes, support remained above 60 percent.


Also worth noting:
Show nested quote +
His position is a notable shift from earlier years, when congressional records show he co-sponsored Medicare for All legislation introduced in 2019 and 2021.


https://www.newsweek.com/medicare-for-all-what-polls-reveal-as-hakeem-jeffries-rejects-proposal-12332745

I'm guessing that's a "no" as far as you know on the Trump question?
Nothing comes to mind on comparing Jeffries and Medicare For All to Trump.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24256 Posts
9 hours ago
#118246
On August 18 2026 15:13 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2026 14:57 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 18 2026 13:49 dyhb wrote:
On August 18 2026 13:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
What is even more politically popular than data centers and nuclear power plants? Medicare for all. So naturally, Democrats' leadership is against it.

House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries announced his opposition to Medicare For All on the same day a CBS News poll found 90 percent of Democratic voters support the idea - and 72 hours after a Yale University study showed the program would save 114,000 American lives and $1 trillion every single year.


https://www.levernews.com/hakeem-jeffries-betrayal-shows-why-democratic-voters-are-so-enraged/

Are there any policies like that for Republicans and Trump?


First, any poll that asks about Medicare For All should also ask respondents if they think they keep their private health plan after it's enacted. That was key some years ago when a similar question was asked of respondents. + Show Spoiler +
Second, this is an update to the 2020 study, which means the lead author was an advisor to the Sanders campaign. Kind of like asking if Data Centers actually increase available potable water and decrease electricity rates for consumers from an Nvidia consultant.
Third, Jeffries is smart enough to know that the assumptions should be doubted until peer review and independent analysis. And that polling is almost a freebie "what kind of plans should the Democratic party focus on" (96% inflation, 91% tax the wealthy, 92% stop Trump's policies, that's a lot of >90% "focus on" response)

Well, even then, it still seems more popular than data centers and nuclear power

A November 2025 poll by Data for Progress found that 65 percent supported Medicare for All when described as national health insurance replacing most private insurance.

The survey found 78 percent support among Democrats, 71 percent among independents and 49 percent among Republicans. And even after respondents were told that Medicare for All would eliminate most private insurance and require higher taxes, support remained above 60 percent.


Also worth noting:
His position is a notable shift from earlier years, when congressional records show he co-sponsored Medicare for All legislation introduced in 2019 and 2021.


https://www.newsweek.com/medicare-for-all-what-polls-reveal-as-hakeem-jeffries-rejects-proposal-12332745

I'm guessing that's a "no" as far as you know on the Trump question?
Nothing comes to mind on comparing Jeffries and Medicare For All to Trump.

You understand the question is about whether there's something that Trump/Republican leadership opposes/supports in opposition to a comparable majority of their own party?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2150 Posts
3 hours ago
#118247
There is a little war in the Middle East you might have missed.
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3309 Posts
1 hour ago
#118248
On August 18 2026 22:04 Billyboy wrote:
There is a little war in the Middle East you might have missed.

Just more proof that it doesn't matter what those voters say, the only thing you can trust about them is that they'll stand firmly behind their party moves
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3041 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-18 15:11:19
1 hour ago
#118249
Google cofounder Sergey Brin has now spent $0.1b to fight California’s proposed billionaire tax, he could owe $13b if he loses: https://fortune.com/2026/08/11/google-cofounder-sergey-brin-california-wealth-tax-opposition-100-million-dollars/

USS Lincoln wasn't resupplied because Hegseth hid that Iran destroyed main U.S. base: https://www.ms.now/money-power-politics/watch/uss-lincoln-wasn-t-resupplied-because-hegseth-hid-that-iran-destroyed-main-u-s-base-rohde-2511362627825

ICE Shot a Journalist and Threw Him in Detention. He’s Approaching 300 Days Behind Bars With a Festering Wound: https://theintercept.com/2026/08/16/ricardo-parias-ice-detention-journalist-los-angeles/
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2150 Posts
34 minutes ago
#118250
On August 18 2026 23:55 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2026 22:04 Billyboy wrote:
There is a little war in the Middle East you might have missed.

Just more proof that it doesn't matter what those voters say, the only thing you can trust about them is that they'll stand firmly behind their party moves

Yep.

Another policy the evil democrats stand for that is unpopular is trans rights. And there are many other examples. Supporting everything popular (populists) are generally snaky pieces of shits without morals who do whatever gets them what they want personally, left or right.

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