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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26310 Posts
2 hours ago
#110681
On March 04 2026 10:19 Falling wrote:
Reporter: Thousands of Americans are stranded. Why wasn't there an evacuation plan?

Trump:
Show nested quote +
Well, because it happened all very quickly, we thought, and I thought maybe more so than most, I could ask Marco, but I thought we were going to have a situation where we were going to be attacked. They were getting ready to attack Israel. They were getting ready to attack others. You're seeing that right now. And a lot of those missiles that are hitting in those are stationary. Those were aimed there for a long period of time at these other countries. So I think I was right about that. We attacked first, and if we didn't, it could have been, you know, look, we're really decimating them. They're being decimated. And if we didn't, if we didn't, and by the way, we have massive amounts of ammunition. We have the high end a lot of it was given away stupidly by Biden, very stupidly for free. And I'm all for Ukraine, but they gave away a lot. As you know, when I give away ammunition, everybody pays for it. The European Union is paying for it, they can do what they want with it, but they are giving it, let's say, to Ukraine, and it's okay, but we gave away a lot of high end but we have plenty. But we have unlimited middle and upper ammunition, which is really what we're using in this war. And we have an, really an unlimited supply. We also have a lot of the very high end stored in different countries throughout the world. Wit this, we're literally storing it there, which is actually something I insisted on in my first term. I rebuilt the military. In my first term, the military is great. A lot of, not unbelievable, amount of ammunition, or munitions, as they say, were given away to you know, the Wall Street Journal incorrectly covered the story when they said that it was given away to the Middle East, not to the Middle East was given away to Ukraine. Very little was given to the Middle East. Middle East would buy a lot. And some of the nations, because they're rich, they have a lot, but it was given away to Ukraine, and it just should have been done. Look, it's a war that should have never happened. If I were president, that war would never happened. But we have a tremendous amount of munitions, ammunition at the upper level, middle and upper level, all of which is really powerful stuff. How worried are you that the rising prices for gas and oil damaging the American economy, and also sure this is, of course, damaging our economies. This is true for the oil prices, and this is true for the gas prices as well. So that's the reason why we all hope that this war will come to an end as soon as possible. And we are hoping that the Israeli and the American army are doing the right things to bring this to an end and to have really a new government in place who was coming back to peace and freedom? Yeah something had to be done. And it's been 47 years. They've been killing people all over the world for a long time. They were the kings and fathers of the roadside bomb, Soleimani. We killed him last time. If we didn't, I think it might be a different story today. They would have been much stronger and smarter than they are, but they did the roadside bombs. 95% of the people lost their legs arms, had their face wiped out, just wiped out. I've seen some young people that it's so sad to watch, and that was all. Almost all. 95% comes from Iran, and with Soleimani Solomon, he loved his favorite weapon. He loved the roadside bomb. And when you see people walking around with no legs and no arms and a face that's been blown to hell, these people what they have to go and the way they have to live, this is, this is Iran. When you look at the barracks, the famous barracks, when you look at the hostages, when you look at a lot of hostages, when you look at all of the problems, they were really a purveyor of terror all over the world for many, many years. And it's something that had to be done something. And I believe that if we didn't because I see where Congress, you know, if I didn't do this, guys like Schumer, who are losers, the Democrats, they're losers. That's why they're not here. Guys like Schumer would say, well, you should have done this. In other words, if I did it, it's no good. If I didn't do it, they would have said the opposite, that you should have done this. But most people feel, I tell you what, I have never had more compliments than something they did. People felt it's something that had to be done.


MAGA: The weave! The weave! He did the weave!
Teacher: You didn't prepare for your presentation, did you?

Behold, your leader! Honest Don, who tells it like it is.
A modicum of coherence from our Dear Leader would be nice...

And folks had issues with Biden’s mental actuity? Fooking hell. I especially enjoyed ‘when you see people walking around with no legs…’
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17287 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-04 12:27:19
1 hour ago
#110682
Donald J. Trump has saved the world again! He is saving 4% of the world's oil supply!

It is now just so plain and simple the motives behind attacking Iran.

#1. Nukes ain't got nuttin to do with it. There is zero chance the USA could ever be attacked by Iran. Intercontinental ballistic missiles are just a dream.
#2. Neutralize the drone armada aimed at Israel. For Iran to spend every rocket and missile they have. Eliminate Iran's Navy.
#3. Bring Iran oil back to into the mainstream OPEC umbrella with no special deals for China
#4. Insure Saudi Arabia remains the #1 oil supplier by keeping prices of Iran oil high.
#5. With no special deals for China or other countries this increases the world wide price of oil.

There is no strategy here, there is no fancy play book. The reasons for attacking Iran are what everyone sees right in front of them this minute. Crush even the tiniest of Iranian military opposition and control the price of the oil Iran sells. They don't care who gets the money for the oil.... they'll probably give the people of Iran a cut of it just like Canada gets a cut of its oil. Once Iran's oil price is controlled Saudi Arabia becomes the unquestioned dominant, power in the region.

Today is "Liberation Day" for Iran's Oil!
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1402 Posts
1 hour ago
#110683
On March 04 2026 21:25 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Donald J. Trump has saved the world again! He is saving 4% of the world's oil supply!

It is now just so plain and simple the motives behind attacking Iran.

#1. Nukes ain't got nuttin to do with it. There is zero chance the USA could ever be attacked by Iran. Intercontinental ballistic missiles are just a dream.
#2. Neutralize the drone armada aimed at Israel. For Iran to spend every rocket and missile they have. Eliminate Iran's Navy.
#3. Bring Iran oil back to into the mainstream OPEC umbrella with no special deals for China
#4. Insure Saudi Arabia remains the #1 oil supplier by keeping prices of Iran oil high.
#5. With no special deals for China or other countries this increases the world wide price of oil.

There is no strategy here, there is no fancy play book. The reasons for attacking Iran are what everyone sees right in front of them this minute. Crush even the tiniest of Iranian military opposition and control the price of the oil Iran sells. They don't care who gets the money for the oil.... they'll probably give the people of Iran a cut of it just like Canada gets a cut of its oil. Once Iran's oil price is controlled Saudi Arabia becomes the unquestioned dominant, power in the region.

Today is "Liberation Day" for Iran's Oil!

Operation Iraqi Iranian Liberation.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17287 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-04 13:06:46
45 minutes ago
#110684
This could escalate into WW3 guys! Until victory is complete, every one get in your bomb shelters!
Here is the Bomb Shelter episode from Happy Days I mentioned earlier. This is such epic Hollywood propaganda. "Happy Days" is supposed to be a cheerful show. Here is the intro to the show. That is director Ron Howard playing "Richie Cunningham". He actually had hair. Richie's best friend is begging for a spot in the Cunningham family's new bomb shelter.

The Hollywood propaganda worked great. In 1975 military spending was $92B. By 1985 it was up to $272B. All this while the Soviet Union was collapsing. The US media kinda missed that part though.
Source: https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/military-spending-defense-budget
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26310 Posts
30 minutes ago
#110685
Jimmy are you trying to outdo boomers on the internet at their own game or what?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17287 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-04 13:11:31
26 minutes ago
#110686
On March 04 2026 22:05 WombaT wrote:
Jimmy are you trying to outdo boomers on the internet at their own game or what?

i am pointing out the absurdity of Netanyahu's 30+ years of fear mongering. its fucking hilarious. Leveraging the nuclear holocaust boogeyman stretches way further back than just the 30 years whatshisface has been doing it.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26310 Posts
10 minutes ago
#110687
On March 04 2026 21:33 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2026 21:25 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Donald J. Trump has saved the world again! He is saving 4% of the world's oil supply!

It is now just so plain and simple the motives behind attacking Iran.

#1. Nukes ain't got nuttin to do with it. There is zero chance the USA could ever be attacked by Iran. Intercontinental ballistic missiles are just a dream.
#2. Neutralize the drone armada aimed at Israel. For Iran to spend every rocket and missile they have. Eliminate Iran's Navy.
#3. Bring Iran oil back to into the mainstream OPEC umbrella with no special deals for China
#4. Insure Saudi Arabia remains the #1 oil supplier by keeping prices of Iran oil high.
#5. With no special deals for China or other countries this increases the world wide price of oil.

There is no strategy here, there is no fancy play book. The reasons for attacking Iran are what everyone sees right in front of them this minute. Crush even the tiniest of Iranian military opposition and control the price of the oil Iran sells. They don't care who gets the money for the oil.... they'll probably give the people of Iran a cut of it just like Canada gets a cut of its oil. Once Iran's oil price is controlled Saudi Arabia becomes the unquestioned dominant, power in the region.

Today is "Liberation Day" for Iran's Oil!

Operation Iraqi Iranian Liberation.

My sensibilities would prefer that, it’s an understandable motivation regardless of the moral particulars.

And hey, there were absolutely self-aggrandising parties there, there were also believers and an effort to nation-build.

This? Feels like a couple of people talked Trump into it and lo and behold!

The messaging is hideously inconsistent thru incoherent at times.

Shouldn’t need said, but to clarify, young WombaT was at protests prior to the Iraq war, and me position hasn’t really shifted over the years. This is no defence of Iraq but at least with that you had a political direction of travel, of momentum leading in. There were a lot of people rolling that wheel, and discussing it and what have you.

This admin just does stuff, seemingly with little planning themselves, much less with allies who aren’t Israel.

It’s this tendency that worries me, because it’s shifted the safety valves for something truly heinous to what capricious whims decide to do, versus process and oversight.

At least thus far, this conflict is pretty damn limited and the civilian casualty churn is quite low, so that’s a good thing obviously. What about the next time something comes up though?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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