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KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1200 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-19 14:37:53
September 19 2025 14:31 GMT
#104961
Maga is about to make Oct 14th, the birthday of Charlie Kirk, into a Rememberance Day

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-moves-declare-conservative-icons-birthday-national-day-remembrance-charlie-kirk

But it's also a the birthday of George Floyd :-D
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46484 Posts
September 19 2025 14:41 GMT
#104962
On September 19 2025 23:31 KT_Elwood wrote:
Maga is about to make Oct 14th, the birthday of Charlie Kirk, into a Rememberance Day

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-moves-declare-conservative-icons-birthday-national-day-remembrance-charlie-kirk


On one hand, creating a Charlie Kirk holiday is one step away from creating a Donald Trump holiday and two steps away from creating an Adolf Hitler holiday.

On the other hand, if Republicans want us to have an annual celebration for the permanent removal of a vile human being, then who am I to object?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3271 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-19 15:05:06
September 19 2025 14:57 GMT
#104963
On September 19 2025 19:26 KwarK wrote:
These people weren't cancelled or pulled or whatever. Cancelled is when the customers or providers refuse to associate with them anymore. There's no government involvement, they alienate their own audience or the commercial foundation upon which they operated.

These people were silenced. Censored. It's important to remember the difference because intellectually dishonest conservatives will try to pretend there is no difference.


This. Neither Biden nor Obama nor Clinton ever did anything remotely like weaponizing the FCC to yank licenses from people for criticism. The last administration to do anything even remotely similar was Nixon's, and he got away with it because it was private threats. He didn't blab to the press "fuck yeah I'm getting everyone who criticizes me off the air," that would've been so blatantly tyrannical even his own supporters would've turned on him.

Also, how much of a thin-skinned coward do you have to be to resort to this? Every president between Nixon and Trump was perfectly able to laugh off their detractors, because they weren't narcissistic idiots. Imagine being such a craven invertebrate that you cry yourself to sleep because you aren't getting North Korea-style hourly praise. I don't remember a single time in my life when America looked so weak and lowly.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States611 Posts
September 19 2025 15:19 GMT
#104964
So according to national security sources, trans people are going to be declared enemies of the state. How does this ring for you guys?
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/fbi-readies-new-war-on-trans-people

세 가지 제어
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14211 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-19 15:24:35
September 19 2025 15:22 GMT
#104965
Its exactly what I expected would happen if Trump won. Some people wanted to send a message to the dems rather than stop it.

No one can say that they weren't warned about this or weren't told this was going to happen. This is the choice people made and we have to live with the consequences togeather.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3271 Posts
September 19 2025 15:41 GMT
#104966
On September 20 2025 00:19 Phyanketto wrote:
So according to national security sources, trans people are going to be declared enemies of the state. How does this ring for you guys?
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/fbi-readies-new-war-on-trans-people


How the Nazis Targeted Transgender People
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46484 Posts
September 19 2025 15:45 GMT
#104967
On September 20 2025 00:41 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2025 00:19 Phyanketto wrote:
So according to national security sources, trans people are going to be declared enemies of the state. How does this ring for you guys?
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/fbi-readies-new-war-on-trans-people


How the Nazis Targeted Transgender People


Years from now, they'll have to clarify which country they're referring to...
How the German Nazis targeted transgender people vs. How the American Nazis targeted transgender people.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24369 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-19 15:47:31
September 19 2025 15:46 GMT
#104968
On September 20 2025 00:22 Sermokala wrote:
Its exactly what I expected would happen if Trump won. + Show Spoiler +
Some people wanted to send a message to the dems rather than stop it.

No one can say that they weren't warned about this or weren't told this was going to happen. This is the choice people made and we have to live with the consequences togeather.

It was more important to Democrats to support genocide than to stop Trump. Go figure.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3271 Posts
September 19 2025 15:49 GMT
#104969
Ah, there's the GH "Dems bad, please bro, do anything but vote Dems bro, I promise bro everything will be okay if we just let Republicans win one more election bro" post. Right on schedule.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24369 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-19 15:52:53
September 19 2025 15:50 GMT
#104970
On September 20 2025 00:49 LightSpectra wrote:
Ah, there's the GH "Dems bad, please bro, do anything but vote Dems bro, I promise bro everything will be okay if we just let Republicans win one more election bro" post. Right on schedule.

You guys skip right past expecting your politicians to represent your interests (or you know, not engage in genocide) to "we should let Republicans win".

Worse than being pathetic, it's dysfunctional to a democratic society.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3271 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-19 15:51:50
September 19 2025 15:51 GMT
#104971
Kamala Harris did represent my interests when she called for a ceasefire three times over the course of 2024. But Trump won and you got what you wanted, right?
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44353 Posts
September 19 2025 16:18 GMT
#104972
On September 20 2025 00:46 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2025 00:22 Sermokala wrote:
Its exactly what I expected would happen if Trump won. + Show Spoiler +
Some people wanted to send a message to the dems rather than stop it.

No one can say that they weren't warned about this or weren't told this was going to happen. This is the choice people made and we have to live with the consequences togeather.

It was more important to Democrats to support genocide than to stop Trump. Go figure.

Americans support Israel bud.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24369 Posts
September 19 2025 16:21 GMT
#104973
On September 20 2025 00:51 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2025 00:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 20 2025 00:49 LightSpectra wrote:
Ah, there's the GH "Dems bad, please bro, do anything but vote Dems bro, I promise bro everything will be okay if we just let Republicans win one more election bro" post. Right on schedule.

You guys skip right past expecting your politicians to represent your interests (or you know, not engage in genocide) to "we should let Republicans win".

Worse than being pathetic, it's dysfunctional to a democratic society.


Kamala Harris did represent my interests when she called for a ceasefire three times over the course of 2024. But Trump won and you got what you wanted, right?

Biden called for plenty of ceasefires too right? They were still aiding and abetting genocide though weren't they? It wasn't for votes. It wasn't even a popular position (question 52 pg. 7). Yet Harris made it abundantly clear she was going to ignore her voters and continue aiding and abetting genocide anyway.

When you're knowingly/willingly voting for people you know are aiding and abetting genocide (against popular opinion) you've lost the plot on the ostensible point of having a "western democratic society". When you turn and cast aspersions against those that wouldn't support genocide, you've lost the plot on your own humanity.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5226 Posts
September 19 2025 16:32 GMT
#104974
Is that literally your only talking point though?
Taxes are for Terrans
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46484 Posts
September 19 2025 16:33 GMT
#104975
On September 20 2025 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2025 00:51 LightSpectra wrote:
On September 20 2025 00:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 20 2025 00:49 LightSpectra wrote:
Ah, there's the GH "Dems bad, please bro, do anything but vote Dems bro, I promise bro everything will be okay if we just let Republicans win one more election bro" post. Right on schedule.

You guys skip right past expecting your politicians to represent your interests (or you know, not engage in genocide) to "we should let Republicans win".

Worse than being pathetic, it's dysfunctional to a democratic society.


Kamala Harris did represent my interests when she called for a ceasefire three times over the course of 2024. But Trump won and you got what you wanted, right?

Biden called for plenty of ceasefires too right? They were still aiding and abetting genocide though weren't they? It wasn't for votes. It wasn't even a popular position (question 52 pg. 7). Yet Harris made it abundantly clear she was going to ignore her voters and continue aiding and abetting genocide anyway.

When you're knowingly/willingly voting for people you know are aiding and abetting genocide (against popular opinion) you've lost the plot on the ostensible point of having a "western democratic society". When you turn and cast aspersions against those that wouldn't support genocide, you've lost the plot on your own humanity.


Harris's position was far from ideal, and Trump's position was even worse. And for every other issue, Trump was still way worse than Harris. The vast majority of voters were willing to vote for one of these two candidates, making a third option (third-party candidate or some sort of election-undermining revolution or any other alternative) not even close to being as popular as voting for either Harris or Trump.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3271 Posts
September 19 2025 16:38 GMT
#104976
On September 20 2025 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2025 00:51 LightSpectra wrote:
On September 20 2025 00:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 20 2025 00:49 LightSpectra wrote:
Ah, there's the GH "Dems bad, please bro, do anything but vote Dems bro, I promise bro everything will be okay if we just let Republicans win one more election bro" post. Right on schedule.

You guys skip right past expecting your politicians to represent your interests (or you know, not engage in genocide) to "we should let Republicans win".

Worse than being pathetic, it's dysfunctional to a democratic society.


Kamala Harris did represent my interests when she called for a ceasefire three times over the course of 2024. But Trump won and you got what you wanted, right?

Biden called for plenty of ceasefires too right? They were still aiding and abetting genocide though weren't they? It wasn't for votes. It wasn't even a popular position (question 52 pg. 7). Yet Harris made it abundantly clear she was going to ignore her voters and continue aiding and abetting genocide anyway.

When you're knowingly/willingly voting for people you know are aiding and abetting genocide (against popular opinion) you've lost the plot on the ostensible point of having a "western democratic society". When you turn and cast aspersions against those that wouldn't support genocide, you've lost the plot on your own humanity.


Ah damn, I wonder why the actual people in Gaza wanted Harris to win then? (Second source)

It's because their humanity means nothing to you if you can't weaponize them to help Republicans. Incidentally, the same reason you're gleefully happy to sacrifice trans people on the altar of "Dems bad".
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24369 Posts
September 19 2025 16:42 GMT
#104977
On September 20 2025 01:32 Uldridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2025 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 20 2025 00:51 LightSpectra wrote:
On September 20 2025 00:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
On September 20 2025 00:49 LightSpectra wrote:
Ah, there's the GH "Dems bad, please bro, do anything but vote Dems bro, I promise bro everything will be okay if we just let Republicans win one more election bro" post. Right on schedule.

You guys skip right past expecting your politicians to represent your interests (or you know, not engage in genocide) to "we should let Republicans win".

Worse than being pathetic, it's dysfunctional to a democratic society.


Kamala Harris did represent my interests when she called for a ceasefire three times over the course of 2024. But Trump won and you got what you wanted, right?

Biden called for plenty of ceasefires too right? They were still aiding and abetting genocide though weren't they? It wasn't for votes. It wasn't even a popular position (question 52 pg. 7). Yet Harris made it abundantly clear she was going to ignore her voters and continue aiding and abetting genocide anyway.

When you're knowingly/willingly voting for people you know are aiding and abetting genocide (against popular opinion) you've lost the plot on the ostensible point of having a "western democratic society". When you turn and cast aspersions against those that wouldn't support genocide, you've lost the plot on your own humanity.


Is that literally your only talking point though?

Of course not (you know that). That the ostensible "opposition party" to Trump still can't even unify over opposing genocide aided and abetted by Trump's administration doesn't bode well for trans people (or the procession of people Democrats will feed to the wolves in an ultimately hopeless attempt to keep themselves safe) though.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5226 Posts
September 19 2025 16:49 GMT
#104978
Everyone is aiding and abetting the Trump admin because all the politicians are afraid of the big bad bully and ultimately only serve in their own self interest, until proven otherwise.
I'll be extremely eye brow raised and pleasantly surprised if we actually have some real pushback for once, not like some Newsom bloviation with some huffin' and puffin' that they'll gerrymander the fuck out of California.
Taxes are for Terrans
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
September 19 2025 16:59 GMT
#104979
Man this onion article is so on the nose for democrats and this thread

Admitting that they had been working for several years without any discernible success, FBI agents confirmed Wednesday that a local left-wing political group was too disorganized to infiltrate. “We’ve had a few guys in there posing as members and trying to manipulate them into committing acts of violence we can arrest them for, but these people don’t ever do anything violent—they don’t ever do anything at all,” an undercover FBI agent told reporters, adding that the agency believed they’d made headway with turning the leader of the Liberation Socialists group into an informant until the guy didn’t show up to a meeting for months.

“These people are incredibly disorganized. We try to attend their meetings to get them to unwittingly work on our behalf, but half the time no one shows up but the undercover agents, and the other half of the time the meetings are so confusing it’s impossible to follow what they’re actually trying to do. We also tried to sow division in their ranks to ensure that they couldn’t become powerful, but that didn’t work because these people already all fucking hate each other. They spend all their time arguing about minutiae, and most of the time when we try to talk them into doing something violent to the communal spaces in their community, they don’t even know where to go. They’re just a mess.” The FBI agent added that he was worried the left-wing organization was on to him, as he’d already aroused suspicion by interrupting a meandering discussion of principles with a straightforward plan of action.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2463 Posts
September 19 2025 17:10 GMT
#104980
Remember when GH was genuinely pointing out that the problem with the Dems was that their language was too aggressive. Bad dems Bad is all he's got, trying to reason with him is futile, he's all the way down the rabbit hole.
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