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On September 16 2025 00:40 Jankisa wrote: Again, you are doing your favorite thing, putting words in people's mouths. I don't, and have never said he deserved to be murdered. I, unlike him, am very much against any kind of executions (yes, including Trump, Miller, Hitler, Pol Pot etc.) because it is my strong belief that killing someone makes the person and the system that commit this, no matter how just worse for it. I don't even think CK should have been silenced or jailed, I think he was expressing his opinions which is his right, even tho I believe that those opinions and especially the way he espoused them and in support of what made him a huge piece of shit. None of that means that him being assassinated makes pointing these things out wrong, in poor taste or whatever moniker you guys want to assign to it. Fair point, my last sentence was more of saying what I think, rather than reference to your post. For what is worth I dont think of him as PoS either. On September 16 2025 00:19 WombaT wrote: I will note that any time there’s talk about trying to regulate social media so it’s not a hate-filled, misinformational cesspit, be it from the left or from those of a more centrist persuasion, there’s gigantic pushback on the very idea itself. People should be free to be be arseholes if they want to be arseholes. Then if folks from the left are complete arseholes that advocacy seems to just dissipate entirely. Here comes the pearl clutching! Pick a lane like. I’ll also add that there’s a world of difference between advocating for violence, and being ok with someone snuffing it. It’s completely possible to not wish x individual gets assassinated, but think their passing is for the greater benefit of society. Or, have sympathy with their nearest and dearest, while still thinking that person, being a net negative to society being gone is a net win. These aren’t conflicting things. Rush Limbaugh who died after a lifetime of hate (albeit, mild by 2025 standards), of lung cancer, after taking money from tobacco companies and spreading bullshit on their behalf? I can’t laugh at that either? Fucking snowflakes man… Oh please Wombat it is not about it and you know it. People absolutely have the right to celebrate someone getting murdered, as it happens I also have the right to say what I think about it. On September 16 2025 00:10 LightSpectra wrote: This was based on a claim made by conservative David Garrow that basically every scholar across the political spectrum has spoken out against. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/08/martin-luther-king-david-garrow-essay-claims https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Garrow#Life_and_career Besides, Charlie Kirk supported Donald Trump for President despite the latter being an adjudicated rapist. I wonder what the difference is? It was literally the Nazi position. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity Ah yes, because everyone across the political spectrum in the USA is very happy with and supportive of what Iran is like. I'm reminded of a tweet by some Trump supporter that said (paraphrased) "Wait a minute, the Taliban was against abortion and vaccines? Maybe we were on the wrong side the entire time..." This is, again, a literally Neo-Nazi conspiracy theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement_conspiracy_theory#White_genocide_conspiracy_theory He believed in god, how am i supposed to know what else he believed? You have US in your profile, you could have gone and ask him that. Not it wasnt nazi position like wtf you talking about. Even in wikipedia article you linked: "Leading Nazis like Heinrich Himmler, Alfred Rosenberg, Martin Bormann, and Joseph Goebbels, backed by Hitler, were hostile to Christianity and ultimately planned to de-Christianise Germany" Your Iran question have nothing to do with what I said and I dont know if what I said reflect conservatives position, it was my own musings on the topic. Dude birth rates are not conspiracy theory, also I dare say that given unlimited time everyone will end up mixed race and there is nothing wrong with that. On September 15 2025 23:24 Magic Powers wrote: My good sir, there is one correct answer and one correct answer only. You should literally never force any rape victim to carry. Ever. And especially not your own daughter. "I honestly don't know" tells me either one of two things: you refuse to think about it, in which case I advise you to start thinking now and come to the correct conclusion quickly. Or it tells me you are in fact willing to force your own daughter to carry. Just willingness alone, in my book, strictly disqualifies you from fatherhood. Unfortunately I don't have a say in that, but I hope you'll never be in a position to make such a decision because clearly you're willing to make a very evil choice. And you have the gall to call anybody monsters? You can't be serious. This is pure comedy, I will respond in kind. You should never force women to abortion, it is disgusting that you think you have the right to do so. On September 15 2025 23:26 Magic Powers wrote: Oh no, I didn't fall to the ground in tears. Cry me a river. Kirk didn't deserve death, but he did deserve to be shut up for good one way or another, other than through death. Unfortunately he chose not to shut up and someone else decided for him that his time on this planet was over. You are not in a position to judge me. So the only thing which prevents you from saving the US is 8th amendment. Why I am not surprised. And of course I am in position to judge you, everyone you ever met is making judgements about you. And so do you. | ||
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He believed in god, how am i supposed to know what else he believed? You have US in your profile, you could have gone and ask him that. I'll give you a hint. Donald Trump is really racist. MLK Jr. was opposed to racism and made terminating racial segregation his most important life mission. That's why the former can be a proven-in-court-rapist President, but even an unsubstantiated accusation of rape against the latter is all Kirk needed. You see, Kirk wasn't actually against rape at all, he was against racial equality. Not it wasnt nazi position like wtf you talking about. Even in wikipedia article you linked: "Leading Nazis like Heinrich Himmler, Alfred Rosenberg, Martin Bormann, and Joseph Goebbels, backed by Hitler, were hostile to Christianity and ultimately planned to de-Christianise Germany" Perhaps you should attempt to read the entire article instead of cherrypicking a single line. For example, from the first paragraph: "Positive Christianity (German: positives Christentum) was a religious movement within Nazi Germany which promoted the belief that the racial purity of the German people should be maintained by mixing racialistic Nazi ideology with either fundamental or significant elements of Nicene Christianity. Adolf Hitler used the term in point 24[a] of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, stating: "the Party as such represents the viewpoint of Positive Christianity without binding itself to any particular denomination".[3]" If you want to say "that's not real Christianity," then I agree, which is why I don't agree with calling Kirk a Christian either for advocating what is essentially the same thing in the USA. Your Iran question have nothing to do with what I said and I dont know if what I said reflect conservatives position, it was my own musings on the topic. Sick backtrack bro Dude birth rates are not conspiracy theory, also I dare say that given unlimited time everyone will end up mixed race and there is nothing wrong with that. Kirk thought there was, hence why he was almost verbatim repeating the arguments of Neo-Nazi David Lane. | ||
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