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On September 12 2025 14:14 decafchicken wrote:


His team put out a tweet then he insulted Walz instead of calling him vs instituting a nation wide mourning and flying his body home on fucking air force 2 lol

On September 12 2025 15:41 ETisME wrote:
said it before and will say it again, there's a significantly disproportional coverage on far right over far left on mass media.
EU, UK, Australia are sinking into anti encryption, ID check on social media. this is only the beginning, worst of all there's hardly any protests against them.

There's a lot hating on 4chan or X, but majority of them are keyboard warriors.
imo reddit is simply worst of the bunch. the insane power hungry politically biased super Mods, the upvote system, and the reach to ordinary folks.

Never liked politics much, but as a whole we are just skydiving on the freedom scale.

Fast-moving manhunts often are chaotic, but the search for the person who killed conservative activist Charlie Kirk has been particularly plagued by slow, confusing and contradictory disclosures from public officials.

The roller coaster of information began about 25 minutes after the shooting, when Utah Valley University sent an alert to students stating there was a “suspect in custody.” Roughly an hour and a half later, the school confirmed the person in custody had been released.

Later in the afternoon, FBI Director Kash Patel on social media raised hopes with a message that said a second person, whom he called a “subject” in the shooting, was in custody. It appeared Utah Department of Public Safety commissioner Beau Mason wasn’t aware of Patel’s announcement when he told reporters the suspect was still at large. Later Wednesday night Patel backtracked, saying the second individual had been released after questioning.

Both men who had been questioned were the subject of rampant speculation on social media, and officials acknowledged Thursday morning that the men had faced a wave of threats and harassment.

“We ask the public to be patient with the investigative process. These individuals were not suspects, they were people of interest,” Mason said.

Others said the missteps added to the fear and uncertainty over what officials described as a political assassination that took place in broad daylight, as thousands of people had gathered to watch Kirk speak.

“Clear language and accurate updates protect both public safety and the integrity of the investigation, even as the facts are still evolving,” said Jason Pack, a retired FBI agent who served as a bureau spokesman.

Authorities said Thursday they had good video footage of a person they believed was the gunman, but they declined to immediately release it to the public, with Mason saying they were confident in their ability to identify the person through “some technologies.”

“If we are unsuccessful, we will reach out to you as the media and we will push that publicly to help us identify them,” Mason said.

Hours later, the FBI released two grainy photos of someone it described as a person of interest and announced a $100,000 reward in exchange for information leading to the shooter’s identity.

The swirl of information also included the sharing among law enforcement agencies of an internal bulletin that said investigators found ammunition engraved with expressions of “transgender and antifascist ideology” inside the rifle that authorities believe was used in the fatal shooting. But some officials close to the investigation later Thursday urged caution, saying the probe was in its early stages, investigators were still analyzing the evidence and the bulletin may not accurately reflect the messages on the ammunition.

A spokesman for the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which circulated the bulletin internally among law-enforcement officials, didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

In public, officials did confirm that they had recovered a high-powered bolt action rifle near the shooting scene, as well as imprints of a forearm, a palm and a shoe. They said Kirk’s killer appears to be of college age, allowing the person to blend in with students on campus.

Current and former U.S. officials called Patel's announcement counterproductive.

“At the outset of an investigation, much of the initial intelligence is typically wrong or slightly off. That's why what he did yesterday has never been done by any FBI director before him, or any division leadership before," said retired FBI agent Dan Brunner. "The investigators need to sort through all the initial intelligence before putting out factual evidence ... FBI does not run investigations on social media.”

On September 12 2025 19:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I recently heard the following take on Charlie Kurk's assassination: "I don't support what happened to Charlie, but Charlie would have supported what happened to Charlie". I think that's a fair point.