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On July 06 2025 19:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 15:27 Introvert wrote:On July 06 2025 14:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 06 2025 13:27 Introvert wrote:On July 06 2025 11:18 Sermokala wrote:
Bj under the impression that the only people who live in Africa are blackskinned is on brand.
Being envious of another groups given advantages while never agnowedging their disadvantages from society is also on brand. That last paragraph is related to the point. What disadvantage did he have? when his claim of being black is that he was born in Uganda but barely lived there and had two well to do parents who moved to the US? We know what the point of the box checking is for, as you said, it's about "disadvantages". Which ones did he face? That's the point. Only the most extremely dishonest person would pretend that they wouldn't be offended if he wasn't the political belle atm. Why is it offensive for someone from Africa who moved to America to include "African-American" as part of their identity? Because he's not poor too? Let's not play dumb, we know why this would considered no good if someone else did it. He checked the boxes "Asian" and "Black or African American". But I guess we can pretend he did it because he's a stickler for biographical accuracy based on what his birth certificate says. I guess we should also start referring to Elon as an African-American. "Well he was born in Uganda" is the thinnest of gruels. And re the point about "doing pretty well" I don't think so. He's been criticized for lots, this is just another thing, and it's thing that strikes at something normally the identity left would care about. You wonder if his dad who is a professor at that school in "the study of colonialism, anti-colonialism and decolonisation" would find something distasteful about it. Probably asking for too much. Please don't project faux racist outrage onto other people. This is such a ridiculous thing to be upset about, given how one's demographics can compromise heritage, nationality, birthplace, and more, even if they don't all have equal impact and influence. This is just to distract from the fact that he has a progressive political vision and seems to be a generally good, positive human being. I'm going to stop being baited by this nonsensical, discriminatory topic now, as we're likely about one or two more cycles of posts away from BlackJack full-on bringing this home to his favorite three-letter acronym. We all know he wants to go there, and that's probably why he mentioned this in the first place.
On July 06 2025 18:29 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 13:27 Introvert wrote:On July 06 2025 11:18 Sermokala wrote:
Bj under the impression that the only people who live in Africa are blackskinned is on brand.
Being envious of another groups given advantages while never agnowedging their disadvantages from society is also on brand. That last paragraph is related to the point. What disadvantage did he have? when his claim of being black is that he was born in Uganda but barely lived there and had two well to do parents who moved to the US? We know what the point of the box checking is for, as you said, it's about "disadvantages". Which ones did he face? That's the point. Only the most extremely dishonest person would pretend that they wouldn't be offended if he wasn't the political belle atm. You're right of course, it's an outrage. Marking a box for claiming African heritage when he was born in Africa, but not of African parents. An absolute scandal. Infinitely worse than claiming to have bone spurs to dodge the draft.
You guys are far more hysterical in the defense than I am in the criticism, you have to invent an extra level of outrage in order to feel like your indignant explanations for what he did are justified. Am I doing this whole assigning motivation thing right? Seriously through, with the exception of drone you guys are so so, mad far more than BlackJack or I am.
The only "outrage" here is all of you who, for this brief moment, decided that the only things we are allowed to care about are...we'll no one really knows what the rules. But Republicans are ABSOLUTELY trying to distract from a bill they've been bragging about for months that contains most of their agenda items for the year. This thread really hit the nail in the head.
On July 06 2025 20:53 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 20:42 Simberto wrote:On July 06 2025 20:35 BlackJack wrote:On July 06 2025 20:20 EnDeR_ wrote:On July 06 2025 19:53 BlackJack wrote:On July 06 2025 18:26 EnDeR_ wrote:
Honest question, how black do you have to be to be able to tick the African-American box? Or the inverse, how white do you have to be to tick the white American box?
My friend who has a part philipino mom and looks vaguely mexican to me considers herself to be fully white and even exhibits clear white guilt. I could never figure this out. I believe Harvards lawyers argued in front of SCOTUS that it’s based on self-identification and it counts even if you had a great-great-great… grandparent that was of another race. One drop is good enough. We’ve all descended from Africa so I guess anyone attending Harvard could be African American. On July 06 2025 16:33 EnDeR_ wrote:
It is truly despicable that 18 year old Mamdani, when faced with a form that didn't have a box that applied to him, decided to tick the boxes that he felt somewhat applied to him.
Truly, the greatest crime I've ever seen. I’m pretty sure there is an “other” box as well so everyone has at least 1 box that applies to them. Strip the culture war from this and you're left with: "confused teenager ticks too many boxes on his college application form". If that’s the way you choose to see it. Or you could see it the more likely to be true way which is teenager lies on his college application to get a leg up on the competition. The funny thing is I wouldn’t even care about this if I found out that Mamdani opposed race based affirmative action. Then I could at least understand not agreeing with the policy but also not wanting to be disadvantaged by it in any way. But I doubt that he’s against race based affirmative action and I doubt he would be okay with anyone else pulling this same move, e.g. a white person claiming to be middle eastern, for example. Be honest. You wouldn't care about this if he was a republican politican. You care about this because he is a progressive, and you look for anything that would make him look bad. You're mixing up Introvert and Blackjack. Introvert wouldn't care about this if it was a republican politician because there's nothing they can do he won't excuse. Blackjack doesn't care either way, he just likes arguing with people. It's not even in bad faith, faith isn't involved.
You are right, I should repeat all of my criticisms of Trump or anyone for the millionth time in a row. That's certainly more interesting. And I shouldn't say positive things in his defense when I agree with him, because he's a fascist and therefore is always wrong, even when he's right! Nevermind that apparently there's nothing that people here will criticize Mamdani for. You are literally watching it, at very loud volume, happen in front of you. But it's me.
Also this is rich coming from Adam Schiff's biggest fan.
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On July 06 2025 23:02 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 22:15 KT_Elwood wrote:On July 06 2025 21:59 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Does that mean you can choose to identify as whatever ethnicity you want to, in particular pertaining to some admissions process where certain ethnicities will be advantaged? Mamdani was born in Uganda, raised in South Africa and moved to the US where he got citizenship. He is an african american. The form didn't ask if he'd be comfortable to spell NWA out loud in public. The dumb catagorization of people into races and ancestry just didn't cover the idea, that some offspring of displaced Indians can live in africa and then successfully migrate to the US. I thought he himself said he doesn't consider himself African American, or rather, that it would be 'misleading' for him to use that description. Like he said he is 'Indian, Ugandan, New yorker' - which can in some ways be distinctly different from 'African american'Tbh I don't have the full context of that quote but this stuff isn't 'black or white'. My question isn't really supposed to target mamdani, though, it's more philosophical in nature. What determines what ethnic background you can choose to identify as? If it is just what you feel like, then good luck using ethnic background as part of an admission process. If there are set criteria, what are they? If it is being born in Africa and moving to the US, Elon musk qualifies, and he doesn't. If it is about being black and living in the US, then some Indians-Americans might be there, but culturally I think they themselves would largely disagree. Feels like there has basically been a sort of, 'well, it's what you feel like, but don't be ridiculous' type of reasoning going on. But like, if the goal of quota schemes is to eradicate or diminish long-standing social and economic differences steming from historical discrimination (a reasonable goal), it does not make sense for resulting policies to also benefit more recent migrants who have not suffered this injustice. (Of course you can argue that an indian-ugandan has been subject to and affected by racially grounded discrimination, but it's not the same). What I'm mostly trying to say is, designing a set of policies aimed at benefiting a certain ethnic is difficult, precisely because ethnicity isn't all that cut and dry. This is part of why some people aren't fans of these types of policies even if they acknowledge the historical (and current) injustice underpinning the policies.
Ethnicity isn't scientific, but it does have commonly accepted defintions. It's about a shared culture, language, history, set of traditions, and in some definitions also race.
As a white person you wouldn't pass as an African American, but if outside of that you have literally everything in common with African Americans, then it would be pretty hard to argue that your social background is distinct from theirs.
This is where the confusion comes from: it's precisely because of the racial element in certain definitions of "ethnicity". If we could remove the racial element, ethnicity would become a lot more useful.
The problem is that, politically speaking, a distinction between skin colors must be made. A white person can have the same ethnic background as a black person, but depending on where they live they'll have a different lived experience because of their skin color. For example in minority neighborhoods in America white people can also face obstacles, but maybe black people face those same obstacles and then some. The discrimination against black people specifically is a key reason why generally white and black people are not lumped into the same ethnic group in America - even if they share just about everything else other than skin color. If racial discrimination were to magically disappear, then we could agree fairly easily that white and black people can both 100% be part of the same ethnic group.
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On July 06 2025 23:42 Introvert wrote:
Also this is rich coming from Adam Schiff's biggest fan.
Genuinely don't know who Adam Schiff is.
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On July 06 2025 23:42 Introvert wrote:
You are right, I should repeat all of my criticisms of Trump or anyone for the millionth time in a row.
If memory serves me right, the last time you criticized Trump was... uhm...
Remind me please? Was it during this century or the previous one?
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On July 06 2025 23:43 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 23:02 Liquid`Drone wrote:On July 06 2025 22:15 KT_Elwood wrote:On July 06 2025 21:59 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Does that mean you can choose to identify as whatever ethnicity you want to, in particular pertaining to some admissions process where certain ethnicities will be advantaged? Mamdani was born in Uganda, raised in South Africa and moved to the US where he got citizenship. He is an african american. The form didn't ask if he'd be comfortable to spell NWA out loud in public. The dumb catagorization of people into races and ancestry just didn't cover the idea, that some offspring of displaced Indians can live in africa and then successfully migrate to the US. I thought he himself said he doesn't consider himself African American, or rather, that it would be 'misleading' for him to use that description. Like he said he is 'Indian, Ugandan, New yorker' - which can in some ways be distinctly different from 'African american'Tbh I don't have the full context of that quote but this stuff isn't 'black or white'. My question isn't really supposed to target mamdani, though, it's more philosophical in nature. What determines what ethnic background you can choose to identify as? If it is just what you feel like, then good luck using ethnic background as part of an admission process. If there are set criteria, what are they? If it is being born in Africa and moving to the US, Elon musk qualifies, and he doesn't. If it is about being black and living in the US, then some Indians-Americans might be there, but culturally I think they themselves would largely disagree. Feels like there has basically been a sort of, 'well, it's what you feel like, but don't be ridiculous' type of reasoning going on. But like, if the goal of quota schemes is to eradicate or diminish long-standing social and economic differences steming from historical discrimination (a reasonable goal), it does not make sense for resulting policies to also benefit more recent migrants who have not suffered this injustice. (Of course you can argue that an indian-ugandan has been subject to and affected by racially grounded discrimination, but it's not the same). What I'm mostly trying to say is, designing a set of policies aimed at benefiting a certain ethnic is difficult, precisely because ethnicity isn't all that cut and dry. This is part of why some people aren't fans of these types of policies even if they acknowledge the historical (and current) injustice underpinning the policies. Ethnicity isn't scientific, but it does have commonly accepted defintions. It's about a shared culture, language, history, set of traditions, and in some definitions also race. As a white person you wouldn't pass as an African American, but if outside of that you have literally everything in common with African Americans, then it would be pretty hard to argue that your social background is distinct from theirs. This is where the confusion comes from: it's precisely because of the racial element in certain definitions of "ethnicity". If we could remove the racial element, ethnicity would become a lot more useful. The problem is that, politically speaking, a distinction between skin colors must be made. A white person can have the same ethnic background as a black person, but depending on where they live they'll have a different lived experience because of their skin color. For example in minority neighborhoods in America white people can also face obstacles, but maybe black people face those same obstacles and then some. The discrimination against black people specifically is a key reason why generally white and black people are not lumped into the same ethnic group in America - even if they share just about everything else other than skin color. If racial discrimination were to magically disappear, then we could agree fairly easily that white and black people can both 100% be part of the same ethnic group.
I don't think anyone but you uses a non racial definition of ethnicity.
There's nationality which is what a recognized state government calls you.
There's culture which is what you do.
There's identity which is what you call yourself.
There's ethnicity which is which of a number of loosely defined groupings based on geographic regions from before the era of mass migration you share most of your DNA with.
Your fluency in English is far, far worse than you think it is and it routinely causes you issues. Sure, your English is better than my German but the difference is that I know I have shitty German.
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On July 06 2025 23:49 KwarK wrote:
I don't think anyone but you uses a non racial definition of ethnicity.
And you'd be wrong to think that.
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On July 06 2025 23:45 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 23:42 Introvert wrote:
Also this is rich coming from Adam Schiff's biggest fan. Genuinely don't know who Adam Schiff is.
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Not sure if lying or what, but it's hard to believe you don't. He was one of the main Russiagate people and you've quoted him multiple times in thread. Either that or you simply don't check who it was that you were actually quoting? But fine, I will believe you.
On July 06 2025 23:48 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 23:42 Introvert wrote:
You are right, I should repeat all of my criticisms of Trump or anyone for the millionth time in a row. If memory serves me right, the last time you criticized Trump was... uhm... Remind me please? Was it during this century or the previous one?
How long have you been positing here, not that long compared to most of us right? I've been criticizing him since he first came down the elevator 10 years ago. On everything from tariffs to Ukraine. To not caring about spending, refusing to touch entitlements, his pettiness, his holding of grudges, his conduct in 2020 and 2021, all of it. But you, like some people, apparently feel that he must be ritually denounced and therefore I guess every time I support something he does (a far more engaging thing to have a discussion or diagareement about than a two minutes hate) that's bad. And you aren't the first to do this, but it's very odd to require some quota of criticism before engaging, that's not what "good faith" means.
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I agree that quotas should be the last ditch effort to battle inequality since they usually leave a rat's tail of effects you don't want.
"More Equality" actually would be fair.
Set the tuition (and housing) costs for higher education to the same rate as if both parents would have to pay Childsupport to the school that gets a fictional 100% custody.
If you are a casual "almost" 0.1% Household, net income 2 Million/Month, tuition would come down to $240,000.00 per month (or about 3 full annually cost of ivy league education per month), meaning that you you could casually afford to put 36 kids through ivy leauge colleges at the same time after having paid taxes with less than 15% of your personal income you fucking should.
If you your parent household net income is $6000.. tuition would come down to $1500.
In return the school shall provide an allowance and housing. This still doen't take into account that rich people usually can afford time and money being spent on better exam results that qualify you for more or "better" universities.
Of course there will be massive loopholes with people decalring 0 net income and living off loans taken against stock and other assets, or writting of your occasional mega yacht for the time your kids go to college.
But legislators exist to loop-hole proof political ideas. Despite they act as loophole generators at the moment.
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On July 07 2025 00:00 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 23:45 KwarK wrote:On July 06 2025 23:42 Introvert wrote:
Also this is rich coming from Adam Schiff's biggest fan. Genuinely don't know who Adam Schiff is. . Not sure if lying or what, but it's hard to believe you don't. He was one of the main Russiagate people and you've quoted him multiple times in thread. Either that or you simply don't check who it was that you were actually quoting? But fine, I will believe you.
I’m just not that into politics. Only name coming to mind with Russia is Steele of the Steele dossier or something. I could Google to check but it was 8 years ago at this point. So, who’s this Schiff guy? What should I know him from? Assume I don’t watch tv so I won’t have seen him from cable news or anything.
![[image loading]](https://tl.net/staff/KwarK/Schiff.png)
Looks like I've never written the words "Adam Schiff" on tl before today. You might have me mixed up with someone else.
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On July 06 2025 23:20 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 10:15 BlackJack wrote:
The NYT reported when Mamdani applied to Columbia university he checked the box indicating he was Black or African American. Obviously an attempt to get a leg-up on any race-based affirmative action criteria. He has justified it by saying he was born in Uganda and he was trying to explain the complexities of his identity. Sounds about as bullshit of an excuse as Elizabeth Warren claiming to be Native American because her family has "high cheekbones." There's something about lying about your identity to take advantage of racial incentives that I find exceptionally despicable, especially if they are likely to support such policies. You should really consider therapy if you're sitting at home seething in rage because a man born in Uganda checked a box for "African-American" for an admission form for a college he didn't get into. The real question is why the NYTimes is uncritically reporting research from a disgraced racialist. They've always been a right-wing paper but this, plus saying industries choose to manufacture in China better because of their "slender Asiatic fingers" or whatever nonsense it was, is really going off the deep end.
What's even funnier, is that the people bitching about these things the loudest aren't from the group that they are bitching about. Blacks don't give a flying fuck if Mamdani IDs as whatever. If he's lying and is caught, we'll get on his ass and ostracize him accordingly. But we don't care.
You feel that threatened by this person that you resort to this racist shit and pretend outrage. Just be racist in quiet please, we're trying to salvage the fuckin world from you dumbfucks. /r
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On July 06 2025 23:52 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 23:49 KwarK wrote:
I don't think anyone but you uses a non racial definition of ethnicity. And you'd be wrong to think that.
Poll: Two ethnic Inuit have a biological child. What ethnicity is the child?Inuit (10) 100% African American (0) 0% It depends (0) 0% Other (0) 0% 10 total votes You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ Inuit
☐ African American
☐ It depends
☐ Other
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On July 07 2025 00:00 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 23:45 KwarK wrote:On July 06 2025 23:42 Introvert wrote:
Also this is rich coming from Adam Schiff's biggest fan. Genuinely don't know who Adam Schiff is. . Not sure if lying or what, but it's hard to believe you don't. He was one of the main Russiagate people and you've quoted him multiple times in thread. Either that or you simply don't check who it was that you were actually quoting? But fine, I will believe you. Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 23:48 Magic Powers wrote:On July 06 2025 23:42 Introvert wrote:
You are right, I should repeat all of my criticisms of Trump or anyone for the millionth time in a row. If memory serves me right, the last time you criticized Trump was... uhm... Remind me please? Was it during this century or the previous one? How long have you been positing here, not that long compared to most of us right? I've been criticizing him since he first came down the elevator 10 years ago. On everything from tariffs to Ukraine. To not caring about spending, refusing to touch entitlements, his pettiness, his holding of grudges, his conduct in 2020 and 2021, all of it. But you, like some people, apparently feel that he must be ritually denounced and therefore I guess every time I support something he does (a far more engaging thing to have a discussion or diagareement about than a two minutes hate) that's bad. And you aren't the first to do this, but it's very odd to require some quota of criticism before engaging, that's not what "good faith" means.
I've not seen you criticize Trump since the first time I posted in this thread, which was roughly four years ago. It's such a rare occurrence that it simply goes lost.
Meanwhile when it comes to criticizing Democrats or left-wingers, you're always front and center.
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On July 07 2025 00:00 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 23:45 KwarK wrote:On July 06 2025 23:42 Introvert wrote:
Also this is rich coming from Adam Schiff's biggest fan. Genuinely don't know who Adam Schiff is. . Not sure if lying or what, but it's hard to believe you don't. He was one of the main Russiagate people and you've quoted him multiple times in thread. Either that or you simply don't check who it was that you were actually quoting? But fine, I will believe you.
So then Adam Schiff is credible? Because the U.S. Intelligence community confirmed the Russian interference scandal, regardless of Republicans trying to dismiss it with the label "Russiagate": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
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Ethnicity is not necessarily tied to physical appearance, and people from different ethnic groups can have varied physical traits. For instance, someone who identifies as Latino or Hispanic may belong to an ethnic group that includes individuals of different races—such as individuals with European, African, or Indigenous ancestry—but who share a common cultural and linguistic background, such as speaking Spanish or celebrating certain cultural traditions.
Race is a concept used to categorize people based on physical characteristics, such as skin color, facial features, hair texture, and sometimes genetic traits. Unlike ethnicity, which focuses on cultural heritage, race is a social construct that has historically been used to group people based on perceived biological differences. Racial categories have often been broad, such as Black, White, Asian, or Indigenous, and they are usually based on visible traits rather than cultural or ancestral ties.
https://scientificorigin.com/whats-the-difference-between-ethnicity-and-race
Ethnicity can - but not must - be tied to race.
Jump on the knowledge train. Don't be misinformed like KwarK. Don't double down on your ignorance like KwarK.
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On July 07 2025 00:13 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2025 00:00 Introvert wrote:On July 06 2025 23:45 KwarK wrote:On July 06 2025 23:42 Introvert wrote:
Also this is rich coming from Adam Schiff's biggest fan. Genuinely don't know who Adam Schiff is. . Not sure if lying or what, but it's hard to believe you don't. He was one of the main Russiagate people and you've quoted him multiple times in thread. Either that or you simply don't check who it was that you were actually quoting? But fine, I will believe you. I’m just not that into politics. Only name coming to mind with Russia is Steele of the Steele dossier or something. I could Google to check but it was 8 years ago at this point. So, who’s this Schiff guy? What should I know him from? Assume I don’t watch tv so I won’t have seen him from cable news or anything. Looks like I've never written the words "Adam Schiff" on tl before today. You might have me mixed up with someone else.
Here is the exception that proves the rule: https://tl.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=1888#37747
One time six years ago you referred to "Schiff" without his given name.
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On July 07 2025 00:35 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2025 23:52 Magic Powers wrote:On July 06 2025 23:49 KwarK wrote:
I don't think anyone but you uses a non racial definition of ethnicity. And you'd be wrong to think that. Poll: Two ethnic Inuit have a biological child. What ethnicity is the child?Inuit (10) 100% African American (0) 0% It depends (0) 0% Other (0) 0% 10 total votes You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ Inuit
☐ African American
☐ It depends
☐ Other
This is a pretty impressive case of willfully missing the point.
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On July 07 2025 01:05 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2025 00:13 KwarK wrote:On July 07 2025 00:00 Introvert wrote:On July 06 2025 23:45 KwarK wrote:On July 06 2025 23:42 Introvert wrote:
Also this is rich coming from Adam Schiff's biggest fan. Genuinely don't know who Adam Schiff is. . Not sure if lying or what, but it's hard to believe you don't. He was one of the main Russiagate people and you've quoted him multiple times in thread. Either that or you simply don't check who it was that you were actually quoting? But fine, I will believe you. I’m just not that into politics. Only name coming to mind with Russia is Steele of the Steele dossier or something. I could Google to check but it was 8 years ago at this point. So, who’s this Schiff guy? What should I know him from? Assume I don’t watch tv so I won’t have seen him from cable news or anything. Looks like I've never written the words "Adam Schiff" on tl before today. You might have me mixed up with someone else. Here is the exception that proves the rule: https://tl.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=1888#37747One time six years ago you referred to "Schiff" without his given name.
so close. the Trump-Shylock defense would have almost worked. a man in a position of power feigning ignorance and being sassy about it!
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Breaking news: Marjorie Taylor Greene is an absolute moron.
"Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) said Saturday she plans to introduce a bill aimed at tackling “weather modification.” “I am introducing a bill that prohibits the injection, release, or dispersion of chemicals or substances into the atmosphere for the express purpose of altering weather, temperature, climate, or sunlight intensity. It will be a felony offense,” she wrote in a Saturday post on X." https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5386499-greene-to-introduce-weather-modification-bill/
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On July 07 2025 03:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Breaking news: Marjorie Taylor Greene is an absolute moron. "Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) said Saturday she plans to introduce a bill aimed at tackling “weather modification.” “I am introducing a bill that prohibits the injection, release, or dispersion of chemicals or substances into the atmosphere for the express purpose of altering weather, temperature, climate, or sunlight intensity. It will be a felony offense,” she wrote in a Saturday post on X." https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5386499-greene-to-introduce-weather-modification-bill/
Hasn't Soviet/Russia used planes to ensure sunlight a few times for parades or similar? Seems a big waste to me and if the bill targets that I can see a case for discussing it at least.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8587725.stm
(I am not bothering to open links about her.)
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On July 07 2025 00:13 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2025 00:00 Introvert wrote:On July 06 2025 23:45 KwarK wrote:On July 06 2025 23:42 Introvert wrote:
Also this is rich coming from Adam Schiff's biggest fan. Genuinely don't know who Adam Schiff is. . Not sure if lying or what, but it's hard to believe you don't. He was one of the main Russiagate people and you've quoted him multiple times in thread. Either that or you simply don't check who it was that you were actually quoting? But fine, I will believe you. I’m just not that into politics. Only name coming to mind with Russia is Steele of the Steele dossier or something. I could Google to check but it was 8 years ago at this point. So, who’s this Schiff guy? What should I know him from? Assume I don’t watch tv so I won’t have seen him from cable news or anything. Looks like I've never written the words "Adam Schiff" on tl before today. You might have me mixed up with someone else.
As someone so steeped in Russiagate that's hard to believe anyways (he's a main antagonist and was author of the memo that the Nunes memo torched), but I have no desire to trawl tl for tweets or quotes without names so for these purposes I will accept your word for it. I retract that statement, though not the preceding paragraph in the original post. My bad.
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