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On January 31 2025 12:00 KwarK wrote:Trump blamed the aerial collision on, among other things, dwarfs. Show nested quote +We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas.
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The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of air planes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot. A little dot on the map. A runway. It’s not currently clear why the dwarfs crashed the plane or what their agenda is but there’s one thing that is clear, DEI is to blame.
I'm a bit curious about the "this is actually what Trump meant" take that we usually get here after statements like these.
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This is like straight out of the nazi eugenics playbook. We know that the last person he speaks to is what sticks in his mind. 100% there are some nazis in his cabinet (the safe bet is Stephen Miller)
He doesnt even know what the FAA or air traffic controllers do. How would he know an amputee or someone with dwarfism couldnt do any of those jobs.
Straight Nazi shit.
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Trump is not a nazi. He has in fact no ideology at all. He remembers that DEI makes people really angry, and so when people are angry he also blames the DEI.
As long as there is somebody or something to blame what isn't trump, he gladly delivers.
People really want to read into trump, they all fail, because he is about as shallow of a human you can be. It's all spray tan and narcism.
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Mid-air collisions are such a tragedy, and I feel like by now they should be avoidable. You'd think with all those special structures that provide light and flight path information, that this wouldn't still be an issue. But I guess pilots and airport workers still don't have enough of those...
They must construct additional pylons.
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On January 31 2025 20:56 EnDeR_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 12:00 KwarK wrote:Trump blamed the aerial collision on, among other things, dwarfs. We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas.
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The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of air planes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot. A little dot on the map. A runway. It’s not currently clear why the dwarfs crashed the plane or what their agenda is but there’s one thing that is clear, DEI is to blame. I'm a bit curious about the "this is actually what Trump meant" take that we usually get here after statements like these.
You see the problem with hiring controllers from all the other groups mentioned, but you agree dwarfism is over the line so you're singling it out? Or do you need each and every one of them explained?
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On January 31 2025 21:54 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 20:56 EnDeR_ wrote:On January 31 2025 12:00 KwarK wrote:Trump blamed the aerial collision on, among other things, dwarfs. We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas.
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The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of air planes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot. A little dot on the map. A runway. It’s not currently clear why the dwarfs crashed the plane or what their agenda is but there’s one thing that is clear, DEI is to blame. I'm a bit curious about the "this is actually what Trump meant" take that we usually get here after statements like these. You see the problem with hiring controllers from all the other groups mentioned, but you agree dwarfism is over the line so you're singling it out? Or do you need each and every one of them explained?
Yes id like them all explained
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Here we go with the mouse that became an elephant. We're eating the cats and dogs again all over.
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On January 31 2025 21:54 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 20:56 EnDeR_ wrote:On January 31 2025 12:00 KwarK wrote:Trump blamed the aerial collision on, among other things, dwarfs. We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas.
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The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of air planes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot. A little dot on the map. A runway. It’s not currently clear why the dwarfs crashed the plane or what their agenda is but there’s one thing that is clear, DEI is to blame. I'm a bit curious about the "this is actually what Trump meant" take that we usually get here after statements like these. You see the problem with hiring controllers from all the other groups mentioned, but you agree dwarfism is over the line so you're singling it out? Or do you need each and every one of them explained?
The statement doesn't make sense to me.* So I am simply curious as to what Trump really meant™ with that statement.
*i.e. the crash, as far as we know, was not caused by a dwarf, a person missing an extremity, or with partial paralysis or complete paralysis, or epilepsy or severe intellectual disabilities, etc. I have seen no news item indicating that any person with any of the mentioned characteristics was one of the controllers on duty at the time.
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Also do you think someone with severe intellectual disabilities is actually an air traffic controller? I mean seriously.
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On January 31 2025 22:30 Sadist wrote:
Also do you think someone with severe intellectual disabilities is actually an air traffic controller? I mean seriously.
To be fair, someone with severe intellectual disabilities is currently our president.
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On January 31 2025 22:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 22:30 Sadist wrote:
Also do you think someone with severe intellectual disabilities is actually an air traffic controller? I mean seriously. To be fair, someone with severe intellectual disabilities is currently our president.
Too EZ GG NORE
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On January 31 2025 22:18 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 21:54 oBlade wrote:On January 31 2025 20:56 EnDeR_ wrote:On January 31 2025 12:00 KwarK wrote:Trump blamed the aerial collision on, among other things, dwarfs. We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas.
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The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of air planes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot. A little dot on the map. A runway. It’s not currently clear why the dwarfs crashed the plane or what their agenda is but there’s one thing that is clear, DEI is to blame. I'm a bit curious about the "this is actually what Trump meant" take that we usually get here after statements like these. You see the problem with hiring controllers from all the other groups mentioned, but you agree dwarfism is over the line so you're singling it out? Or do you need each and every one of them explained? Yes id like them all explained
Certainly:
People with hearing disability could have trouble hearing conversations clearly on a radio. On multiple frequencies. Of multiple conversations happening at once. With their supervisor in the background and also needing to talk with colleagues when necessary. They could have trouble interpreting the various accents of pilots, not limited to those whose first language isn't English.
People with vision disability could have trouble tracking things (people with dyslexia can confuse similar callsigns, waypoints, etc. leading to confusing -> dangerous situations - I've put dyslexia here as not an intellectual disability).
Missing extremities is vague but you probably can't operate computers and equipment without working fingers. I'd let toes and feet slide on this one.
Partial paralysis is the same - there are certain critical body parts, like fingers, mouth, vocal cords, eyes, that need to work. Complete paralysis obviously includes all of those.
Epilepsy - You do not want people seizing in the middle of controlling airplanes. Sometimes a controller is the only one working a tower. That's a problem by itself, but you also can't fix this by personnel redundancy - If you have one guy who is epileptic, so you put another in case he seizes, in the event he seizes his partner is now helping him instead of directing planes. Or splitting attention. Or he can't take a bathroom break because of the risk.
People with intellectual disability cannot direct airplanes.
People with psychiatric disability are equally unable to direct airplanes, either all the time or in the event of an episode, which is not a risk to be taken.
People with dwarfism cannot see out of the window in cases where it's necessary to directly visually interact with something, e.g. planes on the runway or taxiway, a runway incursion by a streaker, a plane doing a flyby to confirm their gear is down, etc.
While it's true that a perfectly healthy person can have a heart attack and die also, potentially causing a dangerous situation, you can't proscribe perfectly healthy people on the assumption their risk is nonzero, because nobody is left to do the job. There have been cases of lone controllers having strokes on the job with no history. Not good. However, it's pretty much recognized internationally in cases of bus drivers, airplane pilots, that basically all of these factors are disqualifying. For basic reasons of safety. For similar reasons making them ATC is not very viable.
The main criticism that works is there's no sources, so we don't know if it was made up, or a misunderstanding of FAA hiring in general vs. ATC in particular, or if it's completely true. However, if true hopefully you can see the issue of the FAA prioritizing quite the wrong things. We do know the class action lawsuits are in progress accusing them of the same behavior. The investigation of this particular incident notwithstanding, many of the FAA's policies range from headscratchers to negligence.
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On January 31 2025 21:54 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 20:56 EnDeR_ wrote:On January 31 2025 12:00 KwarK wrote:Trump blamed the aerial collision on, among other things, dwarfs. We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas.
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The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of air planes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot. A little dot on the map. A runway. It’s not currently clear why the dwarfs crashed the plane or what their agenda is but there’s one thing that is clear, DEI is to blame. I'm a bit curious about the "this is actually what Trump meant" take that we usually get here after statements like these. You see the problem with hiring controllers from all the other groups mentioned, but you agree dwarfism is over the line so you're singling it out? Or do you need each and every one of them explained?
As I already said, from what I understand these were guidelines across the board for FAA employees/employment focus and not necessarily specific to air traffic controllers who may have a different standard, and if that wasn’t the case I’m open to correction.
But you’re not interested in digging into the truth of whatever matter is on the table, but facetiously defending everything the Dear Leader does and gaslighting everyone else for observing basic reality.
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On January 31 2025 21:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Mid-air collisions are such a tragedy, and I feel like by now they should be avoidable. You'd think with all those special structures that provide light and flight path information, that this wouldn't still be an issue. But I guess pilots and airport workers still don't have enough of those...
They must construct additional pylons. From the initial info and public communication traffic between the tower and planes/helicopters it looks like a simple case of the helicopter being warned of the inbound plane and them not seeing it/reacting.
The sort of accident that no amount of precautions is going to entirely eliminate so long as you have a helicopter corridor that passes through a runways landing approach.
I don't know the situation but my obvious question is why the F are there regularly helicopters flying that close to a runway approach corridor.
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On January 31 2025 22:42 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 21:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Mid-air collisions are such a tragedy, and I feel like by now they should be avoidable. You'd think with all those special structures that provide light and flight path information, that this wouldn't still be an issue. But I guess pilots and airport workers still don't have enough of those...
They must construct additional pylons. From the initial info and public communication traffic between the tower and planes/helicopters it looks like a simple case of the helicopter being warned of the inbound plane and them not seeing it/reacting. The sort of accident that no amount of precautions is going to entirely eliminate so long as you have a helicopter corridor that passes through a runways landing approach. I don't know the situation but my obvious question is why the F are there regularly helicopters flying that close to a runway approach corridor.
I dunno I’m skeptical, how was an air traffic control station even able to send that message to the helicopter given it was stationed entirely by paralysed, half-blind dwarves who suffer from deep psychological problems?
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On January 31 2025 22:38 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 22:18 Sadist wrote:On January 31 2025 21:54 oBlade wrote:On January 31 2025 20:56 EnDeR_ wrote:On January 31 2025 12:00 KwarK wrote:Trump blamed the aerial collision on, among other things, dwarfs. We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas.
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The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of air planes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot. A little dot on the map. A runway. It’s not currently clear why the dwarfs crashed the plane or what their agenda is but there’s one thing that is clear, DEI is to blame. I'm a bit curious about the "this is actually what Trump meant" take that we usually get here after statements like these. You see the problem with hiring controllers from all the other groups mentioned, but you agree dwarfism is over the line so you're singling it out? Or do you need each and every one of them explained? Yes id like them all explained Certainly: People with hearing disability could have trouble hearing conversations clearly on a radio. On multiple frequencies. Of multiple conversations happening at once. With their supervisor in the background and also needing to talk with colleagues when necessary. They could have trouble interpreting the various accents of pilots, not limited to those whose first language isn't English. People with vision disability could have trouble tracking things (people with dyslexia can confuse similar callsigns, waypoints, etc. leading to confusing -> dangerous situations - I've put dyslexia here as not an intellectual disability). Missing extremities is vague but you probably can't operate computers and equipment without working fingers. I'd let toes and feet slide on this one. Partial paralysis is the same - there are certain critical body parts, like fingers, mouth, vocal cords, eyes, that need to work. Complete paralysis obviously includes all of those. Epilepsy - You do not want people seizing in the middle of controlling airplanes. Sometimes a controller is the only one working a tower. That's a problem by itself, but you also can't fix this by personnel redundancy - If you have one guy who is epileptic, so you put another in case he seizes, in the event he seizes his partner is now helping him instead of directing planes. Or splitting attention. Or he can't take a bathroom break because of the risk. People with intellectual disability cannot direct airplanes. People with psychiatric disability are equally unable to direct airplanes, either all the time or in the event of an episode, which is not a risk to be taken. People with dwarfism cannot see out of the window in cases where it's necessary to directly visually interact with something, e.g. planes on the runway or taxiway, a runway incursion by a streaker, a plane doing a flyby to confirm their gear is down, etc. While it's true that a perfectly healthy person can have a heart attack and die also, potentially causing a dangerous situation, you can't proscribe perfectly healthy people on the assumption their risk is nonzero, because nobody is left to do the job. There have been cases of lone controllers having strokes on the job with no history. Not good. However, it's pretty much recognized internationally in cases of bus drivers, airplane pilots, that basically all of these factors are disqualifying. For basic reasons of safety. For similar reasons making them ATC is not very viable. The main criticism that works is there's no sources, so we don't know if it was made up, or a misunderstanding of FAA hiring in general vs. ATC in particular, or if it's completely true. However, if true hopefully you can see the issue of the FAA prioritizing quite the wrong things. We do know the class action lawsuits are in progress accusing them of the same behavior. The investigation of this particular incident notwithstanding, many of the FAA's policies range from headscratchers to negligence.
Is there any evidence that any of the above disabilities caused - or even contributed to - the mid-air crash between the plane and helicopter?
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On January 31 2025 22:39 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 21:54 oBlade wrote:On January 31 2025 20:56 EnDeR_ wrote:On January 31 2025 12:00 KwarK wrote:Trump blamed the aerial collision on, among other things, dwarfs. We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas.
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The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of air planes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot. A little dot on the map. A runway. It’s not currently clear why the dwarfs crashed the plane or what their agenda is but there’s one thing that is clear, DEI is to blame. I'm a bit curious about the "this is actually what Trump meant" take that we usually get here after statements like these. You see the problem with hiring controllers from all the other groups mentioned, but you agree dwarfism is over the line so you're singling it out? Or do you need each and every one of them explained? As I already said, from what I understand these were guidelines across the board for FAA employees/employment focus and not necessarily specific to air traffic controllers who may have a different standard, and if that wasn’t the case I’m open to correction. But you’re not interested in digging into the truth of whatever matter is on the table, but facetiously defending everything the Dear Leader does and gaslighting everyone else for observing basic reality.
Reality is crash this weekend or not, there's been a known increase in close calls basically since the reopening after covid. That's Biden and Buttigieg. Reasonable to assess the FAA's role in that since over the past 4 years they were under the auspices of the Department of Transportation during the time of a far less dear leader.
On January 31 2025 22:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 22:38 oBlade wrote:On January 31 2025 22:18 Sadist wrote:On January 31 2025 21:54 oBlade wrote:On January 31 2025 20:56 EnDeR_ wrote:On January 31 2025 12:00 KwarK wrote:Trump blamed the aerial collision on, among other things, dwarfs. We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas.
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The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of air planes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot. A little dot on the map. A runway. It’s not currently clear why the dwarfs crashed the plane or what their agenda is but there’s one thing that is clear, DEI is to blame. I'm a bit curious about the "this is actually what Trump meant" take that we usually get here after statements like these. You see the problem with hiring controllers from all the other groups mentioned, but you agree dwarfism is over the line so you're singling it out? Or do you need each and every one of them explained? Yes id like them all explained Certainly: People with hearing disability could have trouble hearing conversations clearly on a radio. On multiple frequencies. Of multiple conversations happening at once. With their supervisor in the background and also needing to talk with colleagues when necessary. They could have trouble interpreting the various accents of pilots, not limited to those whose first language isn't English. People with vision disability could have trouble tracking things (people with dyslexia can confuse similar callsigns, waypoints, etc. leading to confusing -> dangerous situations - I've put dyslexia here as not an intellectual disability). Missing extremities is vague but you probably can't operate computers and equipment without working fingers. I'd let toes and feet slide on this one. Partial paralysis is the same - there are certain critical body parts, like fingers, mouth, vocal cords, eyes, that need to work. Complete paralysis obviously includes all of those. Epilepsy - You do not want people seizing in the middle of controlling airplanes. Sometimes a controller is the only one working a tower. That's a problem by itself, but you also can't fix this by personnel redundancy - If you have one guy who is epileptic, so you put another in case he seizes, in the event he seizes his partner is now helping him instead of directing planes. Or splitting attention. Or he can't take a bathroom break because of the risk. People with intellectual disability cannot direct airplanes. People with psychiatric disability are equally unable to direct airplanes, either all the time or in the event of an episode, which is not a risk to be taken. People with dwarfism cannot see out of the window in cases where it's necessary to directly visually interact with something, e.g. planes on the runway or taxiway, a runway incursion by a streaker, a plane doing a flyby to confirm their gear is down, etc. While it's true that a perfectly healthy person can have a heart attack and die also, potentially causing a dangerous situation, you can't proscribe perfectly healthy people on the assumption their risk is nonzero, because nobody is left to do the job. There have been cases of lone controllers having strokes on the job with no history. Not good. However, it's pretty much recognized internationally in cases of bus drivers, airplane pilots, that basically all of these factors are disqualifying. For basic reasons of safety. For similar reasons making them ATC is not very viable. The main criticism that works is there's no sources, so we don't know if it was made up, or a misunderstanding of FAA hiring in general vs. ATC in particular, or if it's completely true. However, if true hopefully you can see the issue of the FAA prioritizing quite the wrong things. We do know the class action lawsuits are in progress accusing them of the same behavior. The investigation of this particular incident notwithstanding, many of the FAA's policies range from headscratchers to negligence. Is there any evidence that any of the above disabilities caused - or even contributed to - the mid-air crash between the plane and helicopter?
Any evidence of either me or Donald "We do not know what led to this crash" Blumpf claiming that, my friend?
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On January 31 2025 22:42 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 21:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Mid-air collisions are such a tragedy, and I feel like by now they should be avoidable. You'd think with all those special structures that provide light and flight path information, that this wouldn't still be an issue. But I guess pilots and airport workers still don't have enough of those...
They must construct additional pylons. From the initial info and public communication traffic between the tower and planes/helicopters it looks like a simple case of the helicopter being warned of the inbound plane and them not seeing it/reacting. The sort of accident that no amount of precautions is going to entirely eliminate so long as you have a helicopter corridor that passes through a runways landing approach. I don't know the situation but my obvious question is why the F are there regularly helicopters flying that close to a runway approach corridor.
True, but also we should consider the fact that I really wanted to make that StarCraft reference.
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On January 31 2025 22:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 22:39 WombaT wrote:On January 31 2025 21:54 oBlade wrote:On January 31 2025 20:56 EnDeR_ wrote:On January 31 2025 12:00 KwarK wrote:Trump blamed the aerial collision on, among other things, dwarfs. We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas.
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The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of air planes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot. A little dot on the map. A runway. It’s not currently clear why the dwarfs crashed the plane or what their agenda is but there’s one thing that is clear, DEI is to blame. I'm a bit curious about the "this is actually what Trump meant" take that we usually get here after statements like these. You see the problem with hiring controllers from all the other groups mentioned, but you agree dwarfism is over the line so you're singling it out? Or do you need each and every one of them explained? As I already said, from what I understand these were guidelines across the board for FAA employees/employment focus and not necessarily specific to air traffic controllers who may have a different standard, and if that wasn’t the case I’m open to correction. But you’re not interested in digging into the truth of whatever matter is on the table, but facetiously defending everything the Dear Leader does and gaslighting everyone else for observing basic reality. Reality is crash this weekend or not, there's been a known increase in close calls basically since the reopening after covid. That's Biden and Buttigieg. Reasonable to assess the FAA's role in that since over the past 4 years they were under the auspices of the Department of Transportation during the time of a far less dear leader.
Close calls are when planes don't actually hit each other and kill a bunch of people though, right?
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On January 31 2025 22:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 22:39 WombaT wrote:On January 31 2025 21:54 oBlade wrote:On January 31 2025 20:56 EnDeR_ wrote:On January 31 2025 12:00 KwarK wrote:Trump blamed the aerial collision on, among other things, dwarfs. We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas.
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The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of air planes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot. A little dot on the map. A runway. It’s not currently clear why the dwarfs crashed the plane or what their agenda is but there’s one thing that is clear, DEI is to blame. I'm a bit curious about the "this is actually what Trump meant" take that we usually get here after statements like these. You see the problem with hiring controllers from all the other groups mentioned, but you agree dwarfism is over the line so you're singling it out? Or do you need each and every one of them explained? As I already said, from what I understand these were guidelines across the board for FAA employees/employment focus and not necessarily specific to air traffic controllers who may have a different standard, and if that wasn’t the case I’m open to correction. But you’re not interested in digging into the truth of whatever matter is on the table, but facetiously defending everything the Dear Leader does and gaslighting everyone else for observing basic reality. Reality is crash this weekend or not, there's been a known increase in close calls basically since the reopening after covid. That's Biden and Buttigieg. Reasonable to assess the FAA's role in that since over the past 4 years they were under the auspices of the Department of Transportation during the time of a far less dear leader. Show nested quote +On January 31 2025 22:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On January 31 2025 22:38 oBlade wrote:On January 31 2025 22:18 Sadist wrote:On January 31 2025 21:54 oBlade wrote:On January 31 2025 20:56 EnDeR_ wrote:On January 31 2025 12:00 KwarK wrote:Trump blamed the aerial collision on, among other things, dwarfs. We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas.
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The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of air planes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot. A little dot on the map. A runway. It’s not currently clear why the dwarfs crashed the plane or what their agenda is but there’s one thing that is clear, DEI is to blame. I'm a bit curious about the "this is actually what Trump meant" take that we usually get here after statements like these. You see the problem with hiring controllers from all the other groups mentioned, but you agree dwarfism is over the line so you're singling it out? Or do you need each and every one of them explained? Yes id like them all explained Certainly: People with hearing disability could have trouble hearing conversations clearly on a radio. On multiple frequencies. Of multiple conversations happening at once. With their supervisor in the background and also needing to talk with colleagues when necessary. They could have trouble interpreting the various accents of pilots, not limited to those whose first language isn't English. People with vision disability could have trouble tracking things (people with dyslexia can confuse similar callsigns, waypoints, etc. leading to confusing -> dangerous situations - I've put dyslexia here as not an intellectual disability). Missing extremities is vague but you probably can't operate computers and equipment without working fingers. I'd let toes and feet slide on this one. Partial paralysis is the same - there are certain critical body parts, like fingers, mouth, vocal cords, eyes, that need to work. Complete paralysis obviously includes all of those. Epilepsy - You do not want people seizing in the middle of controlling airplanes. Sometimes a controller is the only one working a tower. That's a problem by itself, but you also can't fix this by personnel redundancy - If you have one guy who is epileptic, so you put another in case he seizes, in the event he seizes his partner is now helping him instead of directing planes. Or splitting attention. Or he can't take a bathroom break because of the risk. People with intellectual disability cannot direct airplanes. People with psychiatric disability are equally unable to direct airplanes, either all the time or in the event of an episode, which is not a risk to be taken. People with dwarfism cannot see out of the window in cases where it's necessary to directly visually interact with something, e.g. planes on the runway or taxiway, a runway incursion by a streaker, a plane doing a flyby to confirm their gear is down, etc. While it's true that a perfectly healthy person can have a heart attack and die also, potentially causing a dangerous situation, you can't proscribe perfectly healthy people on the assumption their risk is nonzero, because nobody is left to do the job. There have been cases of lone controllers having strokes on the job with no history. Not good. However, it's pretty much recognized internationally in cases of bus drivers, airplane pilots, that basically all of these factors are disqualifying. For basic reasons of safety. For similar reasons making them ATC is not very viable. The main criticism that works is there's no sources, so we don't know if it was made up, or a misunderstanding of FAA hiring in general vs. ATC in particular, or if it's completely true. However, if true hopefully you can see the issue of the FAA prioritizing quite the wrong things. We do know the class action lawsuits are in progress accusing them of the same behavior. The investigation of this particular incident notwithstanding, many of the FAA's policies range from headscratchers to negligence. Is there any evidence that any of the above disabilities caused - or even contributed to - the mid-air crash between the plane and helicopter? Any evidence of either me or Donald "We do not know what led to this crash" Blumpf claiming that, my friend?
Why would he bring it up if he doesnt know that they directly led to or contributed to the crash? If nothing else to imply that it did?
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