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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On December 16 2024 23:57 BlackJack wrote: TikToker trying to dunk on a McDonalds worker because they will have to wait for the legal process to get their reward money or because they will have to pay taxes on it… why is this newsworthy? It feeds my petty lowlife ego that hates bloodthirsty CEOs. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24032 Posts
On December 14 2024 20:33 Vivax wrote: Meanwhile women around the country are talking about their experiences reporting legit rape/death threats from stalkers and how the police routinely tell them there's nothing they can do about it.+ Show Spoiler + No one should have to watch events they couldn‘t bear to keep in mind. Not everyone is cool with that. You can‘t erase memories. As for charging people with terrorism because they chant the deny depose thing, that‘s a pretty US thing to do. Savage legal system. We're reaching a breaking point and the refusal by libs/Dems to embrace a socialist framework is going to have catastrophic consequences. | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1153 Posts
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Vivax
22373 Posts
On December 17 2024 00:51 GreenHorizons wrote: Meanwhile women around the country are talking about their experiences reporting legit rape/death threats from stalkers and how the police routinely tell them there's nothing they can do about it. We're reaching a breaking point and the refusal by libs/Dems to embrace a socialist framework is going to have catastrophic consequences. Educating people on how to handle protection of their data and enforcing corporate standards to make such occurrences trackable would help. False reports also exist, often discovered long after the damage is done. The development of internet and information gathering as a whole outruns the capacities of institutions and governments. There‘s nothing US corporations would like more than to have a similarly weak government in the EU. I keep reading of fines but that doesn‘t really deter players that have a monopoly on their sector. The issue is that societal norms here and there are sometimes vastly different. The US loves monopolies and weaponizes them economically. Though they make sense in places to have, they cause corporations to have more influence than governments. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11879 Posts
On December 17 2024 04:29 Vivax wrote: Educating people on how to handle protection of their data and enforcing corporate standards to make such occurrences trackable would help. False reports also exist, often discovered long after the damage is done. The development of internet and information gathering as a whole outruns the capacities of institutions and governments. There‘s nothing US corporations would like more than to have a similarly weak government in the EU. I keep reading of fines but that doesn‘t really deter players that have a monopoly on their sector. The issue is that societal norms here and there are sometimes vastly different. The US loves monopolies and weaponizes them economically. Depends. Fines as percent of global revenue seem to really hit the big companies, and actually motivate them to do stuff. Fines in normal numbers, they obviously don't care about, because those are neglectable operating costs. | ||
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Vivax
22373 Posts
On December 17 2024 04:37 Simberto wrote: Depends. Fines as percent of global revenue seem to really hit the big companies, and actually motivate them to do stuff. Fines in normal numbers, they obviously don't care about, because those are neglectable operating costs. That‘s probably where the EU puts in most of their work. But things like that can spiral into a back-and-forth of lawsuits. We don‘t really have a strong corporation in the media area in the EU like meta/x/google. They influence public opinion a lot. Oh and a case of data protection violation and the like is estimated with 50 k € in legal expenses so said data handling corporations are already out of reach for most people. | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1153 Posts
Actually the GDPR - in theory- is a nice piece of legislation ... IF you'd actually hold the companies accountable. But the problem is.. - Your data is traded by people you don't even know, and never had anything to do with. - If you know the company they can legaly overwhelm you into agreement with a 250 page TOS you can just..*accept* - Politicians are dumb. EU- Politicians are seeing "cookie banner" as the main consequence of the GDPR - and despite you can set a toggle in every browser, to auto-decline all non necessary cookies, which is ignored by most sites - ask for a relieve for not having too many cookie banners to click. Germany proposed a centralized government agency that gives you an Online-ID that is told to servers, with your cookie preferences (I didn't use "dumb" lightly). It's like they do one good thing.. and then shoot themselves in the foot by having about 1 guy per 10 Million to work on all the cases some company shat on User's privacy. | ||
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Vivax
22373 Posts
Maybe he should… | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26998 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14144 Posts
Also Republicans would hate him because he would be giving joy to poors instead of the cruelty they should be experiencing to get them to stop being poor. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9060 Posts
On December 17 2024 23:24 Sermokala wrote: I'm pretty sure his workforce would count as slaves and his wonton breaking and entering spree along with violating airspace laws everywhere would make him a super criminal. Also Republicans would hate him because he would be giving joy to poors instead of the cruelty they should be experiencing to get them to stop being poor. I love this. Wonderful take. I'd say Santa would be a mix of Bryan Cranston and Josh Brolin. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-safety-and-emergencies/general/what-did-brianna-boston-do-gofundme-pages-removed-for-florida-woman-who-threatened-health-insurance-giant/ar-AA1vNoZ4 | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46061 Posts
Additionally, Brian Tyler Cohen and Glenn Kirschner had a pretty interesting mock debate, where they weighed the pros and cons of both sides: pro-pardon vs. anti-pardon. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26998 Posts
On December 18 2024 00:10 Magic Powers wrote: Incredible how the rule of law suddenly applies when people are punching up instead of punching down. Another win for the punchdowners. https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-safety-and-emergencies/general/what-did-brianna-boston-do-gofundme-pages-removed-for-florida-woman-who-threatened-health-insurance-giant/ar-AA1vNoZ4 It’s silly that this case has progressed as it has. Ultimately it’s the C-suite class that draw the rules, I have some sympathy with whatever insurance worker was on the line. They could have felt genuinely threatened here, and it’s not really those folks calling the shots. Having the police investigate, determine that this small 42 year old woman who doesn’t own a firearm wasn’t making a genuine threat, that’s fine. I’d indeed say responsible policing, the vast majority of people who say similar things are venting, rather than making earnest threats of violence. But not everyone. After you do that, and this lady gets a bit of a ‘don’t threaten people with violence again’ scare, actually pursuing this further is absolutely vindictive nonsense. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On December 18 2024 01:03 WombaT wrote: It’s silly that this case has progressed as it has. Ultimately it’s the C-suite class that draw the rules, I have some sympathy with whatever insurance worker was on the line. They could have felt genuinely threatened here, and it’s not really those folks calling the shots. Having the police investigate, determine that this small 42 year old woman who doesn’t own a firearm wasn’t making a genuine threat, that’s fine. I’d indeed say responsible policing, the vast majority of people who say similar things are venting, rather than making earnest threats of violence. But not everyone. After you do that, and this lady gets a bit of a ‘don’t threaten people with violence again’ scare, actually pursuing this further is absolutely vindictive nonsense. Right, and we can expect more of this in the future. I hope cases like this further inflame the class tensions and the hatred of law enforcement. It's time that something changes very fundamentally, and more angry people can only be a good thing. | ||
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oBlade
United States6218 Posts
On December 17 2024 23:24 Sermokala wrote: I'm pretty sure his workforce would count as slaves and his wonton breaking and entering spree along with violating airspace laws everywhere would make him a super criminal. Also Republicans would hate him because he would be giving joy to poors instead of the cruelty they should be experiencing to get them to stop being poor. Republicans are not against altruism and charity. However, in no mythology that I know of is Santa Claus portrayed as a public enterprise - because the very notion of the government being anywhere close to as efficient as he is is as fanciful as the idea of him itself. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14144 Posts
On December 18 2024 02:27 oBlade wrote: Republicans are not against altruism and charity. However, in no mythology that I know of is Santa Claus portrayed as a public enterprise - because the very notion of the government being anywhere close to as efficient as he is is as fanciful as the idea of him itself. Where did you get the idea anyone thinks of him as a public enterprise? The myth is very clearly about an entity using constant mass surveillance to enforce an ambiguous moral system through positive and negative reinforcement regardless of wealth or social class. It tells kids of poor parents that if they were morally good enough they would get presents and its because they are not morally good enough they don't deserve Christmas presents. The reality is much worse, parents are all but forced to join in on a massive lie to their children in order to explain their ability to provide for their children gifts they are then socially pressured to purchase for them. Apparently, the government trying to protect the supply of masks for a few weeks to avoid a supply chain collapse in strategic supplies will shatter the trust the people have in the government but lying to your children for most of their childhood isn't a problem and won't effect your children's trust in you. You lie to your children because its perceived to be in their best interest to incentivize them to act morally good but god forbid the government act in your best interest in the middle of the plague to save lives. If republicans believed in altruism and charity they would be for programs that helped people and the economy at the same time. They want to round up tens of millions of people who pay into the system and contribute to the economy and send them... well that's never described but they're super happy about the rounding up and putting them into camps stage. Explain to me how mass deportation corresponds to altruism and charity, please? Santa is bad that's my hot take I'm not taking it back. | ||
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