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JimmiC
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DarkPlasmaBall
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Mohdoo
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And if I'm being honest, VA still doesn't bother me that much. Losing by 2.4% when you say parents shouldn't have a say in what happens in school is just so hilariously disqualifying I have an easy time writing it off. The statistics around white women in 2020 vs 2021 tells the whole story. Wine moms don't want to be told they are anything less than dictators. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
This is exasperated sarcasm, not literal btw, but it is the US so... | ||
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Deleted User 173346
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On November 04 2021 07:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Phil Murphy won in NJ, keeping his position as Dem governor This is a two for one, because now I can stop hearing Chitarelli's(sp, dun care) ads one the radio with the off brand cringe tik tok tts. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46691 Posts
On November 04 2021 09:26 Gahlo wrote: This is a two for one, because now I can stop hearing Chitarelli's(sp, dun care) ads one the radio with the off brand cringe tik tok tts. Yikes x.x I expect to see Jack signs everywhere for at least another year or two, just because my town has a bunch of sore losers. Some of my neighbors took down their Trump 2020 signs for Christmas and then put them back up on December 26th (they're still up now, a year later). | ||
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Husyelt
United States839 Posts
“Shock at the DNC headquarters tonight as the realization slowly hits. Democrats shouting "we're not republicans" and then sitting on their hands didn't actually win votes. Political strategists will have to think long and hard about this one.“ “Parents don’t have the right to tell schools what to teach their children” probably wasn’t the smartest thing to say after those parents just got done homeschooling their children for a year.” Like how bad can you fuck up after Trump disastrous transition? I was hoping for a deflated Republican Party for at least a half decade. “Both sides” with their culture war nonsense. Create a decent economy off of Covid’s decline and work towards greener energy. Just focus on that. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46691 Posts
On November 04 2021 10:43 Husyelt wrote: I am honestly surprised at how balance r/politics is right now considering the latest loss and general feelings. “Shock at the DNC headquarters tonight as the realization slowly hits. Democrats shouting "we're not republicans" and then sitting on their hands didn't actually win votes. Political strategists will have to think long and hard about this one.“ “Parents don’t have the right to tell schools what to teach their children” probably wasn’t the smartest thing to say after those parents just got done homeschooling their children for a year.” Like how bad can you fuck up after Trump disastrous transition? I was hoping for a deflated Republican Party for at least a half decade. “Both sides” with their culture war nonsense. Create a decent economy off of Covid’s decline and work towards greener energy. Just focus on that. I missed the context of that quote, and that sounds terrible in terms of optics, but was there at least some sort of justification for why that quote was said, when it was said? For example, if a parent came up to me and said I had to start teaching her child that 1+1=7, I could see me being very thankful that this random parent wasn't in charge of what I teach in my math classroom, although the reason would be more about the fact that the woman is factually incorrect about the addition, rather than the horribly-worded assertion that this mere peasant needs to stay in her lane because I'm the super genius expert. | ||
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Mohdoo
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KwarK
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Instead we have all these morons proudly shouting, and I’ll paraphrase here, “I got fucked in the bathrooms at Wendy’s by a guy who didn’t have a condom and on that basis I think I should control public policy”. Like no, you clearly shouldn’t, shut the fuck up and get out. We have professionals who spend their lifetimes studying public education, your failed attempt to use a cheeseburger wrapper as birth control does not entitle you to equal respect in that debate. If you don’t like it then take the kid to private school or whatever. Parents are responsible for getting children to adulthood but they don’t own children and they’re not experts on what children need. Most of the guys passionate about how they know what is best for their kids re: public education literally need to be forced not to hit their kids. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46691 Posts
On November 04 2021 11:46 KwarK wrote: I agree with them. Parents aren’t at all informed on education and they don’t need to be to be parents, they literally just need to be able to reproduce. That’s the bar. Public education is a very important part of our society, it shapes future citizens and gives them the skills and knowledge they need to take part in it. Instead we have all these morons proudly shouting, and I’ll paraphrase here, “I got fucked in the bathrooms at Wendy’s by a guy who didn’t have a condom and on that basis I think I should control public policy”. Like no, you clearly shouldn’t, shut the fuck up and get out. We have professionals who spend their lifetimes studying public education, your failed attempt to use a cheeseburger wrapper as birth control does not entitle you to equal respect in that debate. If you don’t like it then take the kid to private school or whatever. Parents are responsible for getting children to adulthood but they don’t own children and they’re not experts on what children need. Most of the guys passionate about how they know what is best for their kids re: public education literally need to be forced not to hit their kids. I totally agree with you too, however blunt and politically incorrect your explanation may be  | ||
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JimmiC
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KwarK
United States44439 Posts
The tariffs proposed by the guy found on Amazon cost US consumers $51b directly and the subsequent bailout of farmers who couldn’t sell to China cost the taxpayers another $32b. Even letting the public pick the guy who micromanages public policy is clearly a fairly bad idea (though in fairness the public actually picked someone else but then it turned out that the guy with fewer votes wins). | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On November 04 2021 11:46 KwarK wrote: I agree with them. Parents aren’t at all informed on education and they don’t need to be to be parents, they literally just need to be able to reproduce. That’s the bar. Public education is a very important part of our society, it shapes future citizens and gives them the skills and knowledge they need to take part in it. Instead we have all these morons proudly shouting, and I’ll paraphrase here, “I got fucked in the bathrooms at Wendy’s by a guy who didn’t have a condom and on that basis I think I should control public policy”. Like no, you clearly shouldn’t, shut the fuck up and get out. We have professionals who spend their lifetimes studying public education, your failed attempt to use a cheeseburger wrapper as birth control does not entitle you to equal respect in that debate. If you don’t like it then take the kid to private school or whatever. Parents are responsible for getting children to adulthood but they don’t own children and they’re not experts on what children need. Most of the guys passionate about how they know what is best for their kids re: public education literally need to be forced not to hit their kids. My views on parental rights are pretty extreme, and in spite of that, I would never push for my views in modern society if i wanted to win an election. When you're trying to improve the lives of children by removing the capability for parents to ruin their lives, when you end up losing to the republican, you didn't accomplish your goal. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46691 Posts
On November 04 2021 12:46 Mohdoo wrote: My views on parental rights are pretty extreme, and in spite of that, I would never push for my views in modern society if i wanted to win an election. When you're trying to improve the lives of children by removing the capability for parents to ruin their lives, when you end up losing to the republican, you didn't accomplish your goal. It's the difference between the truth and the optics of the truth. If it offends a lot of voters, and if your goal is to win an election, should you be saying it, etc. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On November 04 2021 12:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: It's the difference between the truth and the optics of the truth. If it offends a lot of voters, and if your goal is to win an election, should you be saying it, etc. I honestly think the dude is too old to remember how ooga booga parents are. I feel like a tonnnn of parents who are basically communists would hear someone say "I will make a decision relating to your child instead of you" and then vote for Tucker Carlson if they were the opponent. The amount of lizard brain instinct related to being a parent is just so huge. I legitimately think mcauliffe could have won if he never touched the issues of schools and said "no one knows what's best for their children better than their parents. Full stop" | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Kind of related, do people see the whole thing about removing gifted & talented programs due to racial imbalance a part of the CRT debate, or just vaguely related? It came up from the same people in the same races, and has a real "what the hfil" vibe to it. Seems a real dumb hill to die on. | ||
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KwarK
United States44439 Posts
On November 04 2021 12:46 Mohdoo wrote: My views on parental rights are pretty extreme, and in spite of that, I would never push for my views in modern society if i wanted to win an election. When you're trying to improve the lives of children by removing the capability for parents to ruin their lives, when you end up losing to the republican, you didn't accomplish your goal. Well yeah, you shouldn’t tell the voters about your contempt for them. I’m not agreeing with his electoral strategy, just the underlying message. | ||
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KwarK
United States44439 Posts
On November 04 2021 13:21 LegalLord wrote: This whole situation reminds me a lot of the intelligent design controversy in the early 2000s with a very similar set of conditions - politically motivated changes to the school curriculum, and parents similarly up in arms about it. I suspect a lot of the people talking about how dumb parents are would be on the other side of that argument when the addition of interest is different. Parents don't like schools propagandizing, I don't see why that's surprising or even a bad thing. The idea that schools shouldn’t teach whatever nonsensical bullshit parents believe and the idea that schools shouldn’t teach intelligent design are not in conflict. I’m not arguing that I, as a parent, should have the right to strike all mention of intelligent design from the school books due to my personal belief in evolution. Your suggestion that I think that their complaints are wrong because their beliefs are dumb whereas the same complaint would be valid from me due to my superior beliefs completely misses the point. The argument is that the curriculum should be decided based on educational merit. Intelligent design in schools isn’t bad because I think it’s bad. I think it’s bad for the same reason that it doesn’t belong in schools. Your bad comparison fails to understand the premise of the argument. I would not argue against it because no child of mine should be exposed to ideas I disagree with. I would argue against it because it is a purely religious assertion with no scientific basis and does not belong in a science class. | ||
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