US Politics Mega-thread - Page 3248

On June 17 2021 06:51 Mohdoo wrote:
After the leaked Manchin call, I don't have a problem with him. He's completely and totally a Republican who allows us to replace McConnell with Schumer. Total benefit, but not a democrat. I'm over it.

On June 17 2021 04:47 Mohdoo wrote:


I think you are looking for elegance where it doesn't exist. This is common for people. People want to see patterns and rhythm where it doesn't exist. At the end of the day, you're making a false equivalence. We can point to similarities. We can also point to differences, like the existence of electricity. The differences are so staggering it feels silly.

You listed a lot of ways you see the US as similar. How long do you think the list would be of things that are different? 40% of my proteins are the same as a banana, but I am not a banana. Similarity isn't always useful to measure.

On June 17 2021 07:02 GreenHorizons wrote:


Not sure it's of much material or political benefit if Democrats still get nothing done while not being able to effectively blame McConnell/Republicans and lose both chambers in 2022.

On June 17 2021 10:46 Zambrah wrote:


I would argue that people like Manchin and Sinema make the Democrats look weak and incompetent. When they hold most of the cards on paper and can't make the most of them and do what needs to be done to help people in clear material ways that they feel and understand then it winds up feeling like they arent doing anything at all. It might be worth losing Manchin to the Republicans if it means Democrats might look less incompetent and take control over the former-Blue-Wall and places like Georgia.

In time, assuming they decide to actually be the kind of party that chooses to really actually truly vocally support the working classes in places like Ohio then places like WV might go back to being Democrat states.

Prove that the government doesnt have to be a gridlocked chamber of mediocre old fucks trying to game an unfathomably arcane system and people will probably be a lot more willing to support your government, imo.

On June 17 2021 09:48 micronesia wrote:
I once kind of banged into Joe Lieberman in a diner while coming around a corner. I guess I should be a bit more reckless when I walk.

On June 17 2021 07:26 Sbrubbles wrote:


How can I be sure you're not just a banana in denial, though?

The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled against Texas and other Republican-led states seeking to strike down Obamacare in the law’s latest test before the nation’s highest court.

The top court voted 7-2 to reverse an appeals court ruling that had struck down the law’s individual mandate provision.

Justice Stephen Breyer, who authored the opinion of the court, said that Texas and the other states that challenged the law failed to show that they were harmed by it. In legal terms, the states failed to demonstrate that they had standing.

“Neither the individual nor the state plaintiffs have shown that the injury they will suffer or have suffered is ‘fairly traceable’ to the ‘allegedly unlawful conduct’ of which they complain,” Breyer wrote.

The decision is a major victory for the legislation, which former President Barack Obama signed in 2010. The law has since become a crucial element of the nation’s health-care system, responsible for the coverage of tens of millions of Americans.

The decision marks the third time that Obamacare, also known as the Affordable Care Act, has survived a challenge before the Supreme Court. Defenders of the law worried that the panel, which now has a 6-3 majority of Republican-appointed justices, would scrap the legislation, which has long been criticized by conservatives.

“Each time, in each arena, the Affordable Care Act has prevailed.”“Let me say definitively: The Affordable Care Act has won, the Supreme Court has ruled, the ACA is here to stay. And now, we’re going to try to make it bigger and better.”“What a day,” Schumer added.