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On June 22 2021 07:30 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 07:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Not all of us, but the back to brunch crowd seems to have returned to their comfort zone of hoping for better things while perpetuating the not good things as many predicted from my perspective. Hyper-fixation is a common response to anxiety. When people focus on something bad, it makes them feel artificially more prepared. It isn't healthy. There were major mental health issues created by Trump's presidency. I'm still involved and I still care, but it is important for people to give themselves a mental health break too.
Think there's a difference between a mental health break and just generally/currently thinking less about politics while Trump is not president (Biden's been president for ~5 months).
I (and many others on the left) don't have the same appreciation for people "thinking less about politics nowadays" and find it undesirable. I'd agree the fixation on and centralizing of Trump in people's politics wasn't helpful imo. Moreover, that it's emblematic of all the forecasts about what to expect from the "back to brunch" Democrats for the reasons laid out around the election and since.
I think not fixating on and centralizing Trump (as an individual) in one's political thoughts is good, and breaks are fine, but the faded political awareness/engagement isn't something to be welcomed imo.
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On June 22 2021 09:04 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 07:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 07:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Not all of us, but the back to brunch crowd seems to have returned to their comfort zone of hoping for better things while perpetuating the not good things as many predicted from my perspective. Hyper-fixation is a common response to anxiety. When people focus on something bad, it makes them feel artificially more prepared. It isn't healthy. There were major mental health issues created by Trump's presidency. I'm still involved and I still care, but it is important for people to give themselves a mental health break too. Think there's a difference between a mental health break and just generally/currently thinking less about politics while Trump is not president (Biden's been president for ~5 months). I (and many others on the left) don't have the same appreciation for people "thinking less about politics nowadays" and find it undesirable. I'd agree the fixation on and centralizing of Trump in people's politics wasn't helpful imo. Moreover, that it's emblematic of all the forecasts about what to expect from the "back to brunch" Democrats for the reasons laid out around the election and since. I think not fixating on and centralizing Trump (as an individual) in one's political thoughts is good, and breaks are fine, but the faded political awareness/engagement isn't something to be welcomed imo.
For me its all about using your emotional energy efficiently. For most people, the amount of time they spend thinking/consuming political stuff is 1000000x the time they spend DOING anything political. By all means, people should be as active in politics as they can physically muster. But people DO NOT benefit from f5'ing every politics website they know of. A lot of people essentially torture themselves with negative information because it gives them a fake sense of being in control of their lives.
So I just want to be very specific: I am not saying people should be less involved.
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On June 22 2021 07:13 plasmidghost wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Maybe from your perspective, but I have to worry every day of my life that the GOP is going to legislate my community out of existence like they've been trying all year
True but what do you really get out of being hyper-aware of everything? Remember the recent Texas thing? It didn't end up happening, so did you really benefit from knowing about it at all? Wouldn't you be happier if you didn't know about it to begin with? There are of course plenty of things that are good to know about, but I think people should take an opportunity to consider "wait, is what I am doing a good thing?"
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On June 22 2021 09:32 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 09:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 07:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 07:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Not all of us, but the back to brunch crowd seems to have returned to their comfort zone of hoping for better things while perpetuating the not good things as many predicted from my perspective. Hyper-fixation is a common response to anxiety. When people focus on something bad, it makes them feel artificially more prepared. It isn't healthy. There were major mental health issues created by Trump's presidency. I'm still involved and I still care, but it is important for people to give themselves a mental health break too. Think there's a difference between a mental health break and just generally/currently thinking less about politics while Trump is not president (Biden's been president for ~5 months). I (and many others on the left) don't have the same appreciation for people "thinking less about politics nowadays" and find it undesirable. I'd agree the fixation on and centralizing of Trump in people's politics wasn't helpful imo. Moreover, that it's emblematic of all the forecasts about what to expect from the "back to brunch" Democrats for the reasons laid out around the election and since. I think not fixating on and centralizing Trump (as an individual) in one's political thoughts is good, and breaks are fine, but the faded political awareness/engagement isn't something to be welcomed imo. For me its all about using your emotional energy efficiently. For most people, the amount of time they spend thinking/consuming political stuff is 1000000x the time they spend DOING anything political. By all means, people should be as active in politics as they can physically muster. But people DO NOT benefit from f5'ing every politics website they know of. A lot of people essentially torture themselves with negative information because it gives them a fake sense of being in control of their lives.
Is that really true, though? I have recently heard (and absolutely not fact-checked) that in Germany, people on average spend about 5 minutes/week with politics. I think that the selection bias of "people who discuss politics on the internet" greatly shifts the perception of how much time people actually spend on politics.
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On June 22 2021 13:14 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 09:32 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 09:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 07:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 07:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Not all of us, but the back to brunch crowd seems to have returned to their comfort zone of hoping for better things while perpetuating the not good things as many predicted from my perspective. Hyper-fixation is a common response to anxiety. When people focus on something bad, it makes them feel artificially more prepared. It isn't healthy. There were major mental health issues created by Trump's presidency. I'm still involved and I still care, but it is important for people to give themselves a mental health break too. Think there's a difference between a mental health break and just generally/currently thinking less about politics while Trump is not president (Biden's been president for ~5 months). I (and many others on the left) don't have the same appreciation for people "thinking less about politics nowadays" and find it undesirable. I'd agree the fixation on and centralizing of Trump in people's politics wasn't helpful imo. Moreover, that it's emblematic of all the forecasts about what to expect from the "back to brunch" Democrats for the reasons laid out around the election and since. I think not fixating on and centralizing Trump (as an individual) in one's political thoughts is good, and breaks are fine, but the faded political awareness/engagement isn't something to be welcomed imo. For me its all about using your emotional energy efficiently. For most people, the amount of time they spend thinking/consuming political stuff is 1000000x the time they spend DOING anything political. By all means, people should be as active in politics as they can physically muster. But people DO NOT benefit from f5'ing every politics website they know of. A lot of people essentially torture themselves with negative information because it gives them a fake sense of being in control of their lives. Is that really true, though? I have recently heard (and absolutely not fact-checked) that in Germany, people on average spend about 5 minutes/week with politics. I think that the selection bias of "people who discuss politics on the internet" greatly shifts the perception of how much time people actually spend on politics.
It must be nice to live in a country that has a shared identity but we never ended our civil war.
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On June 22 2021 14:37 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 13:14 Simberto wrote:On June 22 2021 09:32 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 09:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 07:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 07:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Not all of us, but the back to brunch crowd seems to have returned to their comfort zone of hoping for better things while perpetuating the not good things as many predicted from my perspective. Hyper-fixation is a common response to anxiety. When people focus on something bad, it makes them feel artificially more prepared. It isn't healthy. There were major mental health issues created by Trump's presidency. I'm still involved and I still care, but it is important for people to give themselves a mental health break too. Think there's a difference between a mental health break and just generally/currently thinking less about politics while Trump is not president (Biden's been president for ~5 months). I (and many others on the left) don't have the same appreciation for people "thinking less about politics nowadays" and find it undesirable. I'd agree the fixation on and centralizing of Trump in people's politics wasn't helpful imo. Moreover, that it's emblematic of all the forecasts about what to expect from the "back to brunch" Democrats for the reasons laid out around the election and since. I think not fixating on and centralizing Trump (as an individual) in one's political thoughts is good, and breaks are fine, but the faded political awareness/engagement isn't something to be welcomed imo. For me its all about using your emotional energy efficiently. For most people, the amount of time they spend thinking/consuming political stuff is 1000000x the time they spend DOING anything political. By all means, people should be as active in politics as they can physically muster. But people DO NOT benefit from f5'ing every politics website they know of. A lot of people essentially torture themselves with negative information because it gives them a fake sense of being in control of their lives. Is that really true, though? I have recently heard (and absolutely not fact-checked) that in Germany, people on average spend about 5 minutes/week with politics. I think that the selection bias of "people who discuss politics on the internet" greatly shifts the perception of how much time people actually spend on politics. It must be nice to live in a country that has a shared identity but we never ended our civil war.
Not sure how much luck you’ll have complaining about how your country was divided to a German.
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On June 22 2021 14:37 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 13:14 Simberto wrote:On June 22 2021 09:32 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 09:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 07:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 07:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Not all of us, but the back to brunch crowd seems to have returned to their comfort zone of hoping for better things while perpetuating the not good things as many predicted from my perspective. Hyper-fixation is a common response to anxiety. When people focus on something bad, it makes them feel artificially more prepared. It isn't healthy. There were major mental health issues created by Trump's presidency. I'm still involved and I still care, but it is important for people to give themselves a mental health break too. Think there's a difference between a mental health break and just generally/currently thinking less about politics while Trump is not president (Biden's been president for ~5 months). I (and many others on the left) don't have the same appreciation for people "thinking less about politics nowadays" and find it undesirable. I'd agree the fixation on and centralizing of Trump in people's politics wasn't helpful imo. Moreover, that it's emblematic of all the forecasts about what to expect from the "back to brunch" Democrats for the reasons laid out around the election and since. I think not fixating on and centralizing Trump (as an individual) in one's political thoughts is good, and breaks are fine, but the faded political awareness/engagement isn't something to be welcomed imo. For me its all about using your emotional energy efficiently. For most people, the amount of time they spend thinking/consuming political stuff is 1000000x the time they spend DOING anything political. By all means, people should be as active in politics as they can physically muster. But people DO NOT benefit from f5'ing every politics website they know of. A lot of people essentially torture themselves with negative information because it gives them a fake sense of being in control of their lives. Is that really true, though? I have recently heard (and absolutely not fact-checked) that in Germany, people on average spend about 5 minutes/week with politics. I think that the selection bias of "people who discuss politics on the internet" greatly shifts the perception of how much time people actually spend on politics. It must be nice to live in a country that has a shared identity but we never ended our civil war.
Sweet summer child. Germany has maybe 40 years of unity within the last 2k years. And then Prussia finally drew their first real moron for the throne.
Like believe me, Germany knows everything there is to know about civil war and divide.
On June 22 2021 13:14 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 09:32 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 09:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 07:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 07:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Not all of us, but the back to brunch crowd seems to have returned to their comfort zone of hoping for better things while perpetuating the not good things as many predicted from my perspective. Hyper-fixation is a common response to anxiety. When people focus on something bad, it makes them feel artificially more prepared. It isn't healthy. There were major mental health issues created by Trump's presidency. I'm still involved and I still care, but it is important for people to give themselves a mental health break too. Think there's a difference between a mental health break and just generally/currently thinking less about politics while Trump is not president (Biden's been president for ~5 months). I (and many others on the left) don't have the same appreciation for people "thinking less about politics nowadays" and find it undesirable. I'd agree the fixation on and centralizing of Trump in people's politics wasn't helpful imo. Moreover, that it's emblematic of all the forecasts about what to expect from the "back to brunch" Democrats for the reasons laid out around the election and since. I think not fixating on and centralizing Trump (as an individual) in one's political thoughts is good, and breaks are fine, but the faded political awareness/engagement isn't something to be welcomed imo. For me its all about using your emotional energy efficiently. For most people, the amount of time they spend thinking/consuming political stuff is 1000000x the time they spend DOING anything political. By all means, people should be as active in politics as they can physically muster. But people DO NOT benefit from f5'ing every politics website they know of. A lot of people essentially torture themselves with negative information because it gives them a fake sense of being in control of their lives. Is that really true, though? I have recently heard (and absolutely not fact-checked) that in Germany, people on average spend about 5 minutes/week with politics. I think that the selection bias of "people who discuss politics on the internet" greatly shifts the perception of how much time people actually spend on politics.
I'd assume that that strongly diverges based on age group. Like most of the Germans older than 60 don't give a flying fuck and these are a lot. Most of them don't even have internet. Most of the early teens or pre-teens don't give a fuck either according to my experience, although they numerically barely matter.
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On June 22 2021 09:34 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 07:13 plasmidghost wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Maybe from your perspective, but I have to worry every day of my life that the GOP is going to legislate my community out of existence like they've been trying all year True but what do you really get out of being hyper-aware of everything? Remember the recent Texas thing? It didn't end up happening, so did you really benefit from knowing about it at all? Wouldn't you be happier if you didn't know about it to begin with? There are of course plenty of things that are good to know about, but I think people should take an opportunity to consider "wait, is what I am doing a good thing?"
People in truly oppressive positions can't afford to not be "hyper-aware of everything" because the minute they stop could be the minute they lose even more rights or even their lives. I think plasmidghost's constant concern over the GOP's efforts against trans people is a great example of why people on the left like GH and myself take such issue with the Brunch Democrats. Just because Orange Man is gone does not mean things are better. The GOP is doing so much at the state level to harm the American people and they're doing a great job of stone-walling at the federal level to make sure Congress can't do anything about it with legislation. Sure, Trump is out of the White House but things can definitely still get worse even with him gone.
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On June 22 2021 16:55 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 14:37 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 13:14 Simberto wrote:On June 22 2021 09:32 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 09:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 07:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 07:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Not all of us, but the back to brunch crowd seems to have returned to their comfort zone of hoping for better things while perpetuating the not good things as many predicted from my perspective. Hyper-fixation is a common response to anxiety. When people focus on something bad, it makes them feel artificially more prepared. It isn't healthy. There were major mental health issues created by Trump's presidency. I'm still involved and I still care, but it is important for people to give themselves a mental health break too. Think there's a difference between a mental health break and just generally/currently thinking less about politics while Trump is not president (Biden's been president for ~5 months). I (and many others on the left) don't have the same appreciation for people "thinking less about politics nowadays" and find it undesirable. I'd agree the fixation on and centralizing of Trump in people's politics wasn't helpful imo. Moreover, that it's emblematic of all the forecasts about what to expect from the "back to brunch" Democrats for the reasons laid out around the election and since. I think not fixating on and centralizing Trump (as an individual) in one's political thoughts is good, and breaks are fine, but the faded political awareness/engagement isn't something to be welcomed imo. For me its all about using your emotional energy efficiently. For most people, the amount of time they spend thinking/consuming political stuff is 1000000x the time they spend DOING anything political. By all means, people should be as active in politics as they can physically muster. But people DO NOT benefit from f5'ing every politics website they know of. A lot of people essentially torture themselves with negative information because it gives them a fake sense of being in control of their lives. Is that really true, though? I have recently heard (and absolutely not fact-checked) that in Germany, people on average spend about 5 minutes/week with politics. I think that the selection bias of "people who discuss politics on the internet" greatly shifts the perception of how much time people actually spend on politics. It must be nice to live in a country that has a shared identity but we never ended our civil war. Not sure how much luck you’ll have complaining about how your country was divided to a German.
His country used to be divided. Mine still is. That’s what I was saying lol
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Since I know there are more than a few west coast folks on this board:
You can still buy air purifiers and furnace filters online. Time to stock up. You know the fires will be back this year so don't wait until then to stock up on air filters. Remember to also buy lots of tape to seal up your doors and windows. I wasn't able to get my particle levels in my home down to healthy levels until I taped my doors/windows last year.
Now to make this thread-appropriate: I hope Kate Brown doesn't give a helicopter to Afghanistan this time. I am confident Biden will help more than Trump did.
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On June 22 2021 17:24 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 09:34 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 07:13 plasmidghost wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Maybe from your perspective, but I have to worry every day of my life that the GOP is going to legislate my community out of existence like they've been trying all year True but what do you really get out of being hyper-aware of everything? Remember the recent Texas thing? It didn't end up happening, so did you really benefit from knowing about it at all? Wouldn't you be happier if you didn't know about it to begin with? There are of course plenty of things that are good to know about, but I think people should take an opportunity to consider "wait, is what I am doing a good thing?" People in truly oppressive positions can't afford to not be "hyper-aware of everything" because the minute they stop could be the minute they lose even more rights or even their lives. I think plasmidghost's constant concern over the GOP's efforts against trans people is a great example of why people on the left like GH and myself take such issue with the Brunch Democrats. Just because Orange Man is gone does not mean things are better. The GOP is doing so much at the state level to harm the American people and they're doing a great job of stone-walling at the federal level to make sure Congress can't do anything about it with legislation. Sure, Trump is out of the White House but things can definitely still get worse even with him gone.
Thank you for saying this.
If we ever, even just for a day, decide to stop being aware of and advocating for our rights to not be stripped away, we're fucked. The only reason the Texas bills died was because of the ridiculous efforts we put in to get our state legislature to not pass them. Fun times where hundreds of us went to the capitol building to show that we're here and we won't go quietly. Even more fun times where trans children testified to the state legislature to please not make their parents criminals.
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United States43460 Posts
On June 22 2021 22:23 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 16:55 KwarK wrote:On June 22 2021 14:37 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 13:14 Simberto wrote:On June 22 2021 09:32 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 09:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 07:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 07:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Not all of us, but the back to brunch crowd seems to have returned to their comfort zone of hoping for better things while perpetuating the not good things as many predicted from my perspective. Hyper-fixation is a common response to anxiety. When people focus on something bad, it makes them feel artificially more prepared. It isn't healthy. There were major mental health issues created by Trump's presidency. I'm still involved and I still care, but it is important for people to give themselves a mental health break too. Think there's a difference between a mental health break and just generally/currently thinking less about politics while Trump is not president (Biden's been president for ~5 months). I (and many others on the left) don't have the same appreciation for people "thinking less about politics nowadays" and find it undesirable. I'd agree the fixation on and centralizing of Trump in people's politics wasn't helpful imo. Moreover, that it's emblematic of all the forecasts about what to expect from the "back to brunch" Democrats for the reasons laid out around the election and since. I think not fixating on and centralizing Trump (as an individual) in one's political thoughts is good, and breaks are fine, but the faded political awareness/engagement isn't something to be welcomed imo. For me its all about using your emotional energy efficiently. For most people, the amount of time they spend thinking/consuming political stuff is 1000000x the time they spend DOING anything political. By all means, people should be as active in politics as they can physically muster. But people DO NOT benefit from f5'ing every politics website they know of. A lot of people essentially torture themselves with negative information because it gives them a fake sense of being in control of their lives. Is that really true, though? I have recently heard (and absolutely not fact-checked) that in Germany, people on average spend about 5 minutes/week with politics. I think that the selection bias of "people who discuss politics on the internet" greatly shifts the perception of how much time people actually spend on politics. It must be nice to live in a country that has a shared identity but we never ended our civil war. Not sure how much luck you’ll have complaining about how your country was divided to a German. His country used to be divided. Mine still is. That’s what I was saying lol
Half of what used to be Germany is currently in Poland buddy. Another big chunk likes to go by the name Austria. The United States will never be as divided as Germany has been because Germany as a united entity is a bit of a fiction. Much of the 19th Century was spent with German speakers trying to work out what Germany was and how that would work with the non German elements of the German states, principally the Austrian (and later the Austro-Hungarian) Empire. Everyone was pretty sure that Austria would lead the other German states but Austria didn’t want to give up their multiethnic Balkan empire and so you end up with a Prussian dominated Germany that excludes the large amount of German speaking land under Austrian rule. Then Germany briefly takes over Eastern Europe in 1917 before being split into a dozen states based on somewhat arbitrary territorial divisions with lots of Germans in Czechoslovakia, Poland, Estonia, and France. Plus Switzerland which was just doing its own thing. Austria hasn’t got Hungary anymore so they get the band back together for one last shot at greater Germany but end up split into an even weirder shape because the Soviets wanted more land but the Poles wanted the same amount of land as before and so Poland was moved a hundred miles west onto Germany which was now three countries if you include Austria. They’re back to just nominally two countries now, Germany and Austria, but a fair chunk of historical German speaking land isn’t in either of them.
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On June 23 2021 00:23 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 22:23 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 16:55 KwarK wrote:On June 22 2021 14:37 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 13:14 Simberto wrote:On June 22 2021 09:32 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 09:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 07:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 07:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Not all of us, but the back to brunch crowd seems to have returned to their comfort zone of hoping for better things while perpetuating the not good things as many predicted from my perspective. Hyper-fixation is a common response to anxiety. When people focus on something bad, it makes them feel artificially more prepared. It isn't healthy. There were major mental health issues created by Trump's presidency. I'm still involved and I still care, but it is important for people to give themselves a mental health break too. Think there's a difference between a mental health break and just generally/currently thinking less about politics while Trump is not president (Biden's been president for ~5 months). I (and many others on the left) don't have the same appreciation for people "thinking less about politics nowadays" and find it undesirable. I'd agree the fixation on and centralizing of Trump in people's politics wasn't helpful imo. Moreover, that it's emblematic of all the forecasts about what to expect from the "back to brunch" Democrats for the reasons laid out around the election and since. I think not fixating on and centralizing Trump (as an individual) in one's political thoughts is good, and breaks are fine, but the faded political awareness/engagement isn't something to be welcomed imo. For me its all about using your emotional energy efficiently. For most people, the amount of time they spend thinking/consuming political stuff is 1000000x the time they spend DOING anything political. By all means, people should be as active in politics as they can physically muster. But people DO NOT benefit from f5'ing every politics website they know of. A lot of people essentially torture themselves with negative information because it gives them a fake sense of being in control of their lives. Is that really true, though? I have recently heard (and absolutely not fact-checked) that in Germany, people on average spend about 5 minutes/week with politics. I think that the selection bias of "people who discuss politics on the internet" greatly shifts the perception of how much time people actually spend on politics. It must be nice to live in a country that has a shared identity but we never ended our civil war. Not sure how much luck you’ll have complaining about how your country was divided to a German. His country used to be divided. Mine still is. That’s what I was saying lol Half of what used to be Germany is currently in Poland buddy.
It feels like you are trying to pretend I am misunderstanding. I am not. Germany is a united country. The US is not. I am aware history exists and that current Germany is not previous Germany. Germany got mad at each other and ended up parting ways. The US decided neither one could afford their own place so they still live together. The cultural civil war never ended and is the reason we have our current issues. If you still don't understand what I am trying to say, I am not bothered by it.
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There are a bunch of east-west conflicts in Germany currently.
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On June 23 2021 00:23 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2021 22:23 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 16:55 KwarK wrote:On June 22 2021 14:37 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 13:14 Simberto wrote:On June 22 2021 09:32 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 09:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 07:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 07:09 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 06:54 Mohdoo wrote:
I’d like to take a moment to appreciate how much less all of us think about politics nowadays. So thankful Not all of us, but the back to brunch crowd seems to have returned to their comfort zone of hoping for better things while perpetuating the not good things as many predicted from my perspective. Hyper-fixation is a common response to anxiety. When people focus on something bad, it makes them feel artificially more prepared. It isn't healthy. There were major mental health issues created by Trump's presidency. I'm still involved and I still care, but it is important for people to give themselves a mental health break too. Think there's a difference between a mental health break and just generally/currently thinking less about politics while Trump is not president (Biden's been president for ~5 months). I (and many others on the left) don't have the same appreciation for people "thinking less about politics nowadays" and find it undesirable. I'd agree the fixation on and centralizing of Trump in people's politics wasn't helpful imo. Moreover, that it's emblematic of all the forecasts about what to expect from the "back to brunch" Democrats for the reasons laid out around the election and since. I think not fixating on and centralizing Trump (as an individual) in one's political thoughts is good, and breaks are fine, but the faded political awareness/engagement isn't something to be welcomed imo. For me its all about using your emotional energy efficiently. For most people, the amount of time they spend thinking/consuming political stuff is 1000000x the time they spend DOING anything political. By all means, people should be as active in politics as they can physically muster. But people DO NOT benefit from f5'ing every politics website they know of. A lot of people essentially torture themselves with negative information because it gives them a fake sense of being in control of their lives. Is that really true, though? I have recently heard (and absolutely not fact-checked) that in Germany, people on average spend about 5 minutes/week with politics. I think that the selection bias of "people who discuss politics on the internet" greatly shifts the perception of how much time people actually spend on politics. It must be nice to live in a country that has a shared identity but we never ended our civil war. Not sure how much luck you’ll have complaining about how your country was divided to a German. His country used to be divided. Mine still is. That’s what I was saying lol Half of what used to be Germany is currently in Poland buddy.
But the Germans in that part did not stay there when Poland took over, they were forcibly removed and Polish settlers were brouhgt in from the eastern territories we lost to USSR. And nobody in Germany (except of some fringe groups) is crying out for Poland to give the land back.
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On June 23 2021 00:28 Simberto wrote:
There are a bunch of east-west conflicts in Germany currently.
Then maybe I just don't know enough about German politics. From my perspective, you guys have not had any failed insurrections lately or anything close to that. I do not hear about German families being completely torn apart due to elections, but maybe it happens. Here in the US, most families have started to splinter into their conservative and liberal components, whether they say it or not.
Perhaps this is a good opportunity for me to learn. And just to be clear, this is not a dick measuring contest. Are you saying there are issues currently going on in Germany that indicate Germany is equally divided as the US right now?
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On June 23 2021 00:33 PoulsenB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2021 00:23 KwarK wrote:On June 22 2021 22:23 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 16:55 KwarK wrote:On June 22 2021 14:37 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 13:14 Simberto wrote:On June 22 2021 09:32 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 09:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On June 22 2021 07:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 22 2021 07:09 GreenHorizons wrote:
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Not all of us, but the back to brunch crowd seems to have returned to their comfort zone of hoping for better things while perpetuating the not good things as many predicted from my perspective. Hyper-fixation is a common response to anxiety. When people focus on something bad, it makes them feel artificially more prepared. It isn't healthy. There were major mental health issues created by Trump's presidency. I'm still involved and I still care, but it is important for people to give themselves a mental health break too. Think there's a difference between a mental health break and just generally/currently thinking less about politics while Trump is not president (Biden's been president for ~5 months). I (and many others on the left) don't have the same appreciation for people "thinking less about politics nowadays" and find it undesirable. I'd agree the fixation on and centralizing of Trump in people's politics wasn't helpful imo. Moreover, that it's emblematic of all the forecasts about what to expect from the "back to brunch" Democrats for the reasons laid out around the election and since. I think not fixating on and centralizing Trump (as an individual) in one's political thoughts is good, and breaks are fine, but the faded political awareness/engagement isn't something to be welcomed imo. For me its all about using your emotional energy efficiently. For most people, the amount of time they spend thinking/consuming political stuff is 1000000x the time they spend DOING anything political. By all means, people should be as active in politics as they can physically muster. But people DO NOT benefit from f5'ing every politics website they know of. A lot of people essentially torture themselves with negative information because it gives them a fake sense of being in control of their lives. Is that really true, though? I have recently heard (and absolutely not fact-checked) that in Germany, people on average spend about 5 minutes/week with politics. I think that the selection bias of "people who discuss politics on the internet" greatly shifts the perception of how much time people actually spend on politics. It must be nice to live in a country that has a shared identity but we never ended our civil war. Not sure how much luck you’ll have complaining about how your country was divided to a German. His country used to be divided. Mine still is. That’s what I was saying lol Half of what used to be Germany is currently in Poland buddy. But the Germans in that part did not stay there when Poland took over, they were forcibly removed and Polish settlers were brouhgt in from the eastern territories we lost to USSR. And nobody in Germany (except of some fringe groups) is crying out for Poland to give the land back.
I know, I’m saying that the idea that because there is a country called Germany does not mean that there was no division. There was a country called the United States during the US Civil War but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t divided. Germany is like the poster child for a nation divided by war, they’re just not as sore losers as the Confederates (they were pretty sore losers after WW1 but got most of that out of their system in the 1940s). There’s currently more than one German country and it’s not even located in the right historical place.
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I think people might just be a little extra burnt out from 2020 to really want to dig back in. Most people voted for biden because he was a safe boring old white dude in a nightmare year for politics.
We truly live in the age of a lack of conclusions.
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