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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-12 19:03:28
January 12 2021 19:02 GMT
#60221
This Lin Wood fellow seems to have gone off his rocker lately. Despite being a historically reputable lawyer, he's done a strange series of dumb stuff over the past year or two.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7891 Posts
January 12 2021 19:09 GMT
#60222
On January 13 2021 04:02 LegalLord wrote:
This Lin Wood fellow seems to have gone off his rocker lately. Despite being a historically reputable lawyer, he's done a strange series of dumb stuff over the past year or two.

Well, he is a conspiracy theorist of Alex Jones madness level. Maybe he lost it, maybe he was always completely crazy. Aren't his most famous cases in the 1990's?

Now some people are good at something and batshit crazy for everything else; I don't see why being a celebrity lawyer couldn't also be raving mad.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 12 2021 19:10 GMT
#60223
On January 13 2021 04:02 LegalLord wrote:
This Lin Wood fellow seems to have gone off his rocker lately. Despite being a historically reputable lawyer, he's done a strange series of dumb stuff over the past year or two.

That applies to most of Trump's legal team. Sidney Powell and even Giuliani are both in a similar position.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7891 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-12 19:11:43
January 12 2021 19:11 GMT
#60224
On January 13 2021 04:10 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 04:02 LegalLord wrote:
This Lin Wood fellow seems to have gone off his rocker lately. Despite being a historically reputable lawyer, he's done a strange series of dumb stuff over the past year or two.

That applies to most of Trump's legal team. Sidney Powell and even Giuliani are both in a similar position.

Lin Wood is several degrees of magnitude more cuckoo than Giuliani though.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9666 Posts
January 12 2021 19:24 GMT
#60225
Speaking of lawyers, did anyone see that press statement from lectern guy's lawyer?
That guy is literally the worst lawyer you have ever seen in your life.
RIP Meatloaf <3
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18831 Posts
January 12 2021 19:28 GMT
#60226
yep, the attorney meme group I'm in is having a field day with that statement
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25538 Posts
January 12 2021 19:54 GMT
#60227
Anyone got a link? Could do with a good laugh
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 12 2021 19:59 GMT
#60228
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9666 Posts
January 12 2021 20:03 GMT
#60229
On January 13 2021 04:54 WombaT wrote:
Anyone got a link? Could do with a good laugh

Sure:
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RIP Meatloaf <3
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 12 2021 20:05 GMT
#60230
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
January 12 2021 20:23 GMT
#60231
Part of me thinks this is what lawyers actually should be like, though. I think the idea that having a good lawyer should reduce the chances of getting punished for a crime you committed, and often through obfuscation of what events transpired, is frankly, quite perverse.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7327 Posts
January 12 2021 20:31 GMT
#60232
On January 13 2021 05:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Part of me thinks this is what lawyers actually should be like, though. I think the idea that having a good lawyer should reduce the chances of getting punished for a crime you committed, and often through obfuscation of what events transpired, is frankly, quite perverse.


I'm kind of with you. I get that we have to expect lawyers to do everything in their power to win for their clients in order to uphold the integrity of the justice system, but in a situation like this where the person was photographed in a place he wasnt supposed to be doing a thing he isn't allowed to do I mean... I have a hard time blaming someone for going, "yes this is the situation we're working with."

Very awkward balance to strike though, I do not envy that guy's job right now. Hitting that balance between being honest and doing whatever you can to win seems nightmarish in situations like this.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42868 Posts
January 12 2021 20:44 GMT
#60233
On January 13 2021 04:59 JimmiC wrote:
If he didn't talk about his client being persecuted for taking a stand he should be instantly fired and probably disbarred.

Underrated pun.

For anyone who missed this, his client literally took a physical stand.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
January 12 2021 20:54 GMT
#60234
I don't really see what the Lawyer's supposed to do though with the mountain of evidence against him. It's hilarious, but I think the only thing he can try to do is minimize the sentence given to the client. There's no saving him from being found guilty regardless of what he pleas.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-12 21:00:37
January 12 2021 20:58 GMT
#60235
On January 13 2021 05:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Part of me thinks this is what lawyers actually should be like, though. I think the idea that having a good lawyer should reduce the chances of getting punished for a crime you committed, and often through obfuscation of what events transpired, is frankly, quite perverse.


To me, it looks like a mix between seeing the comical in the situation and being extremely nervous about having a client who is getting global attention. Why is he even stating what even a 10-year old can see? I would rather hear about what we didn't see... How did he get that thing? What did he do with it afterwards? Was he carrying it just for the photo and then leave it? Did he do it alone? What were his intentions? Is he remorseful? Does he have a political statement supporting his actions? Does he plead guilty? How can the law be interpreted to his advantage?

It was just terrible and he the lawyer should be fired.
Buff the siegetank
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18831 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-12 21:06:44
January 12 2021 21:03 GMT
#60236
At the FBI DC Bureau press conference today (first public communication from them afaik), they revealed that they have arrested over 90 people across the country and they expect that number to increase by orders of magnitude. They further said that they will be pursuing a wide variety of charges, including both sedition and felony murder.

Edit: and they confirmed that the pipe bombs that were discovered were real and functional
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 12 2021 21:14 GMT
#60237
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7327 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-12 21:37:47
January 12 2021 21:16 GMT
#60238
On January 13 2021 06:14 JimmiC wrote:
The drunk tourist excuse is getting pretty hard to swallow, pipe bombs are not for vacationing or partying.


It never should have been swallowed tbh, these people brought a gallows with them to hang Mike Pence with, this was always more than just the dumb people stealing lecterns and taking selfies.

Also grand stand joke, I didn't notice til KwarK pointed it out, but that is high tier work.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
January 12 2021 21:23 GMT
#60239
On January 13 2021 05:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Part of me thinks this is what lawyers actually should be like, though. I think the idea that having a good lawyer should reduce the chances of getting punished for a crime you committed, and often through obfuscation of what events transpired, is frankly, quite perverse.

I think proving innocence of your client that you know is 100% guilty is wrong. Your job as a lawyer should be to ensure your client gets a fair sentencing for the crime the committed.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-12 21:24:48
January 12 2021 21:24 GMT
#60240
Someone else said it first here:
On January 11 2021 01:21 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 01:04 Gahlo wrote:
On January 10 2021 21:19 Silvanel wrote:
BBC is reporting on charges being brought against some of insurgents: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55606044

And judging from charges those people are getting it seems like this might become new norm. Apparently You can just force Yourself into US Capitol trying to take hostegs and get: "violent entry and disorderly conduct". I know this has been repeated time after time but if they were brown & muslim they would end spending their lfies in prison (if by some miracle they would surrive entry attempt).

Yup. Media does it too by reporting the lectern guy as "carrying" it and not "looting" it. Saw a meme with with the family guy color chart edited to carrying/looting.


The most hilarous comment I read was that the lectern guy "was just taking a stand".
Though obviously multiple people can come up with the same pun independently.
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