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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
December 09 2011 20:05 GMT
#281
Isn't this story fake?

User was warned for this post
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 20:06:06
December 09 2011 20:05 GMT
#282
Wow. I heard about this a few years ago but for some reason concluded that it was an urban legend. Thats some sick shit.
In the wiki it says that the perpertrators had white friends, boyfriends, girlfriends so its doubted that it was a hate crime. Whatever. I dont really care what the motive is for brutality; Its evil no matter what your reason is. If your the kind of person who would torture and rape people, fixing your racial prejudices should be at the bottom of your psychological laundry list.
tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
December 09 2011 20:13 GMT
#283
On December 10 2011 04:58 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:55 OmiDeLta wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:51 HoldenR wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:42 Befree wrote:
What an awkwardly racist start to the thread in 2007. Certainly a lot of ignorance of news trends and basic logic.

Murder and rape are terrible things, but they happen a lot the world. If you're disturbed so deeply by this to want to kill the people, how exactly do you view all the terrible things that go on throughout the world every day? Arbitrarily picking out one particularly sensational story and making it some sort of exception isn't reasonable.

The idea of wanting to kill the accused, or these fantasies of causing them pain, I don't think are acceptable. I myself don't believe in retribution in general. I don't understand what sick drives cause people to crave the death of those who cause pain and I don't know what they imagine to be the benefit of it.

People are just products of their society/upbringing and their genes. Punishing people for the sake of retribution because of their genetics and childhood doesn't seem productive. We certainly want to discourage their appalling behavior and help them change their behavior, but just wanting to go out and kill them or torture them? For what purpose? To satisfy the irrational, ignorant, vindictive, violent drives of the average person? I oppose that.


And I thought hipsters were pretentious. The only way you could genuinely not understand is by being a fucking psychopath that doesn't even know emotion; otherwise you're just acting like a stuck up, morally superior cunt.

Fuck you for trying to gain moral e-cred on this subject, by the way.


Though crudely delivered, I agree with your point. It's natural to feel anger and to wish that the offenders would feel pain. If you don't feel sickened by this, I believe you would have to be completely apathetic. Nobody should be trying to take the moral high ground here. There are people out there who have completely lost every shred of humanity...and these criminals are of that sort.


Some people realise that the justice system is more important then the emotional whims at the sight of such injustice.

Feeling emotions is different from being a slave to your emotions.


I can feel angry about this story but i can control myself and understand that violent payback is not what is called for here.

The difference as such isn't between one side feeling and another not. It's one side being dominated by their emotions and another remaining in control of themselves despite their emotions.


Like I said before this is true. I feel that retribution would be justice but I understand that if we give in to that, society would crumble. This would be why people are talking so violently on here, because it is merely that. Talking. Letting out the completely justified rage we feel.
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Days
Profile Joined February 2010
United States219 Posts
December 09 2011 20:13 GMT
#284
On December 10 2011 04:42 Befree wrote:
What an awkwardly racist start to the thread in 2007. Certainly a lot of ignorance of news trends and basic logic.

Murder and rape are terrible things, but they happen a lot the world. If you're disturbed so deeply by this to want to kill the people, how exactly do you view all the terrible things that go on throughout the world every day? Arbitrarily picking out one particularly sensational story and making it some sort of exception isn't reasonable.

The idea of wanting to kill the accused, or these fantasies of causing them pain, I don't think are acceptable. I myself don't believe in retribution in general. I don't understand what sick drives cause people to crave the death of those who cause pain and I don't know what they imagine to be the benefit of it.

People are just products of their society/upbringing and their genes. Punishing people for the sake of retribution because of their genetics and childhood doesn't seem productive. We certainly want to discourage their appalling behavior and help them change their behavior, but just wanting to go out and kill them or torture them? For what purpose? To satisfy the irrational, ignorant, vindictive, violent drives of the average person? I oppose that.


Ugh seriously? Yeah yeah, enough with "an eye for an eye makes everyone blind" bull shit. Let's see if you felt the same way after your very own father and mother we're the victims in this case, would you still be screaming out for peace to the ones who committed the crime?
We buy things we don't need, with money we don't have, to impress people we don't like.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
December 09 2011 20:18 GMT
#285
These kinds of people should be killed and have their organs distributed to those who need
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Undrass
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway381 Posts
December 09 2011 20:22 GMT
#286
On December 10 2011 05:13 Days wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:42 Befree wrote:
What an awkwardly racist start to the thread in 2007. Certainly a lot of ignorance of news trends and basic logic.

Murder and rape are terrible things, but they happen a lot the world. If you're disturbed so deeply by this to want to kill the people, how exactly do you view all the terrible things that go on throughout the world every day? Arbitrarily picking out one particularly sensational story and making it some sort of exception isn't reasonable.

The idea of wanting to kill the accused, or these fantasies of causing them pain, I don't think are acceptable. I myself don't believe in retribution in general. I don't understand what sick drives cause people to crave the death of those who cause pain and I don't know what they imagine to be the benefit of it.

People are just products of their society/upbringing and their genes. Punishing people for the sake of retribution because of their genetics and childhood doesn't seem productive. We certainly want to discourage their appalling behavior and help them change their behavior, but just wanting to go out and kill them or torture them? For what purpose? To satisfy the irrational, ignorant, vindictive, violent drives of the average person? I oppose that.


Ugh seriously? Yeah yeah, enough with "an eye for an eye makes everyone blind" bull shit. Let's see if you felt the same way after your very own father and mother we're the victims in this case, would you still be screaming out for peace to the ones who committed the crime?


You choose to be sad instead of feeling anger. It is natural to feel anger, but that does not justify giving in to anger. We are not slaves of our feelings. Feelings have NO place in justice.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
December 09 2011 20:22 GMT
#287
Man, I hope those four got fucked up big time in Jail before the new trail.
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
besteady
Profile Joined September 2010
United States75 Posts
December 09 2011 20:24 GMT
#288
Wow there is some pretty bad racism, and just plain ignorance in this thread, im surprised the mods dont do more about it.
Phisk
Profile Joined June 2010
166 Posts
December 09 2011 20:25 GMT
#289
On December 10 2011 05:13 Days wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:42 Befree wrote:
What an awkwardly racist start to the thread in 2007. Certainly a lot of ignorance of news trends and basic logic.

Murder and rape are terrible things, but they happen a lot the world. If you're disturbed so deeply by this to want to kill the people, how exactly do you view all the terrible things that go on throughout the world every day? Arbitrarily picking out one particularly sensational story and making it some sort of exception isn't reasonable.

The idea of wanting to kill the accused, or these fantasies of causing them pain, I don't think are acceptable. I myself don't believe in retribution in general. I don't understand what sick drives cause people to crave the death of those who cause pain and I don't know what they imagine to be the benefit of it.

People are just products of their society/upbringing and their genes. Punishing people for the sake of retribution because of their genetics and childhood doesn't seem productive. We certainly want to discourage their appalling behavior and help them change their behavior, but just wanting to go out and kill them or torture them? For what purpose? To satisfy the irrational, ignorant, vindictive, violent drives of the average person? I oppose that.


Ugh seriously? Yeah yeah, enough with "an eye for an eye makes everyone blind" bull shit. Let's see if you felt the same way after your very own father and mother we're the victims in this case, would you still be screaming out for peace to the ones who committed the crime?


What kind of kinder garden argument is that? There is no room for bias in the justice system, if we treated every crime as if we were the victims, judging from a place of emotion rather than logic, society would fall apart.

Befree's argument that we cant punish people for their "genetics" (as if there was a "criminal" gene...) or upbringing is obviously idiotic though, because then nobody would be responsible for their actions. There is such a thing as free will and every action that anyone has a ever made has a consequence and we are all responsible for what we do.Even the most horrible upbringing that somebody has been through doesn't give you a free pass to commit horrible actions.
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
December 09 2011 20:26 GMT
#290
On December 10 2011 05:13 OmiDeLta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:58 zalz wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:55 OmiDeLta wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:51 HoldenR wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:42 Befree wrote:
What an awkwardly racist start to the thread in 2007. Certainly a lot of ignorance of news trends and basic logic.

Murder and rape are terrible things, but they happen a lot the world. If you're disturbed so deeply by this to want to kill the people, how exactly do you view all the terrible things that go on throughout the world every day? Arbitrarily picking out one particularly sensational story and making it some sort of exception isn't reasonable.

The idea of wanting to kill the accused, or these fantasies of causing them pain, I don't think are acceptable. I myself don't believe in retribution in general. I don't understand what sick drives cause people to crave the death of those who cause pain and I don't know what they imagine to be the benefit of it.

People are just products of their society/upbringing and their genes. Punishing people for the sake of retribution because of their genetics and childhood doesn't seem productive. We certainly want to discourage their appalling behavior and help them change their behavior, but just wanting to go out and kill them or torture them? For what purpose? To satisfy the irrational, ignorant, vindictive, violent drives of the average person? I oppose that.


And I thought hipsters were pretentious. The only way you could genuinely not understand is by being a fucking psychopath that doesn't even know emotion; otherwise you're just acting like a stuck up, morally superior cunt.

Fuck you for trying to gain moral e-cred on this subject, by the way.


Though crudely delivered, I agree with your point. It's natural to feel anger and to wish that the offenders would feel pain. If you don't feel sickened by this, I believe you would have to be completely apathetic. Nobody should be trying to take the moral high ground here. There are people out there who have completely lost every shred of humanity...and these criminals are of that sort.


Some people realise that the justice system is more important then the emotional whims at the sight of such injustice.

Feeling emotions is different from being a slave to your emotions.


I can feel angry about this story but i can control myself and understand that violent payback is not what is called for here.

The difference as such isn't between one side feeling and another not. It's one side being dominated by their emotions and another remaining in control of themselves despite their emotions.


Like I said before this is true. I feel that retribution would be justice but I understand that if we give in to that, society would crumble. This would be why people are talking so violently on here, because it is merely that. Talking. Letting out the completely justified rage we feel.


At the same time, though, your system is based on retribution and punishment rather than rehabilitation. Sure it's a lot better to have a legal system do such retribution rather than say, lynchings, but still.
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
December 09 2011 20:28 GMT
#291
this story is disgusting, i wish i didn't read that :s
Magic_Mike
Profile Joined May 2010
United States542 Posts
December 09 2011 20:29 GMT
#292
On December 10 2011 04:42 Befree wrote:
What an awkwardly racist start to the thread in 2007. Certainly a lot of ignorance of news trends and basic logic.

Murder and rape are terrible things, but they happen a lot the world. If you're disturbed so deeply by this to want to kill the people, how exactly do you view all the terrible things that go on throughout the world every day? Arbitrarily picking out one particularly sensational story and making it some sort of exception isn't reasonable.

The idea of wanting to kill the accused, or these fantasies of causing them pain, I don't think are acceptable. I myself don't believe in retribution in general. I don't understand what sick drives cause people to crave the death of those who cause pain and I don't know what they imagine to be the benefit of it.

People are just products of their society/upbringing and their genes. Punishing people for the sake of retribution because of their genetics and childhood doesn't seem productive. We certainly want to discourage their appalling behavior and help them change their behavior, but just wanting to go out and kill them or torture them? For what purpose? To satisfy the irrational, ignorant, vindictive, violent drives of the average person? I oppose that.



Until it happens to you. Some people will never, ever be useful to society at all in any way, shape, or form. How would you go about changing their behavior and reintroducing them to society? Where would they work? Where would they live? Would you want them in your neighborhood near your friends or family? What about children? No! These guys have no place in normal society and cannot bring anything meaningful to anybodies lives after what they have done. They will do nothing but waste taxpayers money for several years on end while the families of their victims have no sense of closure, no relief, no trust in society's ability to keep them safe, and basically no hope that "justice" will be served. Kill them and at least they will never have to wonder what those monsters are doing now and they won't have opportunity to do something like that again. It isn't like it was a crime of passion and a one time thing. This was a prolonged torture by fucked up psychopaths. There is no curing whatever they have, no fixing their "sickness," no helping them change their ways. They are permanently fucked up pieces of shit who don't deserve to breath. I know personally and many of you will probably get upset at me for saying it but, sometimes, it feels really fucking good to get revenge. I can't imagine what I would do if someone did this to my family. I can promise you that that I would go to every possible length to "avenge" their deaths and I would enjoy every fucking second of it.
Days
Profile Joined February 2010
United States219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 20:32:31
December 09 2011 20:29 GMT
#293
On December 10 2011 05:25 Phisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 05:13 Days wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:42 Befree wrote:
What an awkwardly racist start to the thread in 2007. Certainly a lot of ignorance of news trends and basic logic.

Murder and rape are terrible things, but they happen a lot the world. If you're disturbed so deeply by this to want to kill the people, how exactly do you view all the terrible things that go on throughout the world every day? Arbitrarily picking out one particularly sensational story and making it some sort of exception isn't reasonable.

The idea of wanting to kill the accused, or these fantasies of causing them pain, I don't think are acceptable. I myself don't believe in retribution in general. I don't understand what sick drives cause people to crave the death of those who cause pain and I don't know what they imagine to be the benefit of it.

People are just products of their society/upbringing and their genes. Punishing people for the sake of retribution because of their genetics and childhood doesn't seem productive. We certainly want to discourage their appalling behavior and help them change their behavior, but just wanting to go out and kill them or torture them? For what purpose? To satisfy the irrational, ignorant, vindictive, violent drives of the average person? I oppose that.


Ugh seriously? Yeah yeah, enough with "an eye for an eye makes everyone blind" bull shit. Let's see if you felt the same way after your very own father and mother we're the victims in this case, would you still be screaming out for peace to the ones who committed the crime?


What kind of kinder garden argument is that? There is no room for bias in the justice system, if we treated every crime as if we were the victims, judging from a place of emotion rather than logic, society would fall apart.

I'm not saying we should be bias in certain situations, i'm just saying people need to be held accountable for their actions. And sometimes I feel like life in prison is not enough compensation for murders like in this case.

Befree's argument that we cant punish people for their "genetics" (as if there was a "criminal" gene...) or upbringing is obviously idiotic though, because then nobody would be responsible for their actions. There is such a thing as free will and every action that anyone has a ever made has a consequence and we are all responsible for what we do.Even the most horrible upbringing that somebody has been through doesn't give you a free pass to commit horrible actions.


I'm not saying we should be bias in certain situations, i'm just saying people need to be held accountable for their actions. And sometimes I feel like life in prison is not enough compensation for murders like in this case.
We buy things we don't need, with money we don't have, to impress people we don't like.
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
December 09 2011 20:31 GMT
#294
On December 10 2011 05:05 Zzoram wrote:
Isn't this story fake?

User was warned for this post

It's very real; I live in Knoxville.
besteady
Profile Joined September 2010
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 20:37:40
December 09 2011 20:32 GMT
#295
On December 10 2011 04:42 Befree wrote:
What an awkwardly racist start to the thread in 2007. Certainly a lot of ignorance of news trends and basic logic.

Murder and rape are terrible things, but they happen a lot the world. If you're disturbed so deeply by this to want to kill the people, how exactly do you view all the terrible things that go on throughout the world every day? Arbitrarily picking out one particularly sensational story and making it some sort of exception isn't reasonable.

The idea of wanting to kill the accused, or these fantasies of causing them pain, I don't think are acceptable. I myself don't believe in retribution in general. I don't understand what sick drives cause people to crave the death of those who cause pain and I don't know what they imagine to be the benefit of it.

People are just products of their society/upbringing and their genes. Punishing people for the sake of retribution because of their genetics and childhood doesn't seem productive. We certainly want to discourage their appalling behavior and help them change their behavior, but just wanting to go out and kill them or torture them? For what purpose? To satisfy the irrational, ignorant, vindictive, violent drives of the average person? I oppose that.


This is the most important post in the thread

E: People, especially middle class white americans should do their best to read and comprehend this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inheritance#Inheritance_and_Race
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
December 09 2011 20:33 GMT
#296
The disturbing part about this story is that it wasnt really focused on at all by the news. I cant help but feel that it was racially motivated to ignore it. When a black guy gets punched by a white guy its all over the news replete with accusations of racism, even if it turns out that they both mutually disliked eachother for a long time and were provoking one another. Two whites are raped and tortured specifically because of race and we never hear about it. I dont think thats a coincidence.
tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
December 09 2011 20:34 GMT
#297
On December 10 2011 05:26 HellRoxYa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 05:13 OmiDeLta wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:58 zalz wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:55 OmiDeLta wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:51 HoldenR wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:42 Befree wrote:
What an awkwardly racist start to the thread in 2007. Certainly a lot of ignorance of news trends and basic logic.

Murder and rape are terrible things, but they happen a lot the world. If you're disturbed so deeply by this to want to kill the people, how exactly do you view all the terrible things that go on throughout the world every day? Arbitrarily picking out one particularly sensational story and making it some sort of exception isn't reasonable.

The idea of wanting to kill the accused, or these fantasies of causing them pain, I don't think are acceptable. I myself don't believe in retribution in general. I don't understand what sick drives cause people to crave the death of those who cause pain and I don't know what they imagine to be the benefit of it.

People are just products of their society/upbringing and their genes. Punishing people for the sake of retribution because of their genetics and childhood doesn't seem productive. We certainly want to discourage their appalling behavior and help them change their behavior, but just wanting to go out and kill them or torture them? For what purpose? To satisfy the irrational, ignorant, vindictive, violent drives of the average person? I oppose that.


And I thought hipsters were pretentious. The only way you could genuinely not understand is by being a fucking psychopath that doesn't even know emotion; otherwise you're just acting like a stuck up, morally superior cunt.

Fuck you for trying to gain moral e-cred on this subject, by the way.


Though crudely delivered, I agree with your point. It's natural to feel anger and to wish that the offenders would feel pain. If you don't feel sickened by this, I believe you would have to be completely apathetic. Nobody should be trying to take the moral high ground here. There are people out there who have completely lost every shred of humanity...and these criminals are of that sort.


Some people realise that the justice system is more important then the emotional whims at the sight of such injustice.

Feeling emotions is different from being a slave to your emotions.


I can feel angry about this story but i can control myself and understand that violent payback is not what is called for here.

The difference as such isn't between one side feeling and another not. It's one side being dominated by their emotions and another remaining in control of themselves despite their emotions.


Like I said before this is true. I feel that retribution would be justice but I understand that if we give in to that, society would crumble. This would be why people are talking so violently on here, because it is merely that. Talking. Letting out the completely justified rage we feel.


At the same time, though, your system is based on retribution and punishment rather than rehabilitation. Sure it's a lot better to have a legal system do such retribution rather than say, lynchings, but still.


Hm. It's true our justice system isn't the best but do you really think people like THIS can be rehabilitated? In cases like this I am all for the death penalty. What I meant by retribution was brutal retribution; making them feel the same pain. Probably should have specified that. Ahaha. My bad. Perhaps I give in to my emotional side a little bit too much, huh? I guess that's just personality. But of course we can't ACTUALLY go around beating criminals to death. As bloodthirstily satisfying as that would be, admittedly...HOWEVER. Must keep that side reigned in. Self-control is a good thing. Death, yes. Brutal death, no. (Am I somewhere on the middle ground here? For some reason I feel like I am.)
"I wonder if there is a league below copper? If so, I would like to inhabit it." -TotalBiscuit "In the event of a sudden change in cabin pressure, ROOF FLIES OFF!" -George Carlin <3 HerO <3 Kiwikaki <3 MKP
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
December 09 2011 20:35 GMT
#298
On December 10 2011 05:13 OmiDeLta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 04:58 zalz wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:55 OmiDeLta wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:51 HoldenR wrote:
On December 10 2011 04:42 Befree wrote:
What an awkwardly racist start to the thread in 2007. Certainly a lot of ignorance of news trends and basic logic.

Murder and rape are terrible things, but they happen a lot the world. If you're disturbed so deeply by this to want to kill the people, how exactly do you view all the terrible things that go on throughout the world every day? Arbitrarily picking out one particularly sensational story and making it some sort of exception isn't reasonable.

The idea of wanting to kill the accused, or these fantasies of causing them pain, I don't think are acceptable. I myself don't believe in retribution in general. I don't understand what sick drives cause people to crave the death of those who cause pain and I don't know what they imagine to be the benefit of it.

People are just products of their society/upbringing and their genes. Punishing people for the sake of retribution because of their genetics and childhood doesn't seem productive. We certainly want to discourage their appalling behavior and help them change their behavior, but just wanting to go out and kill them or torture them? For what purpose? To satisfy the irrational, ignorant, vindictive, violent drives of the average person? I oppose that.


And I thought hipsters were pretentious. The only way you could genuinely not understand is by being a fucking psychopath that doesn't even know emotion; otherwise you're just acting like a stuck up, morally superior cunt.

Fuck you for trying to gain moral e-cred on this subject, by the way.


Though crudely delivered, I agree with your point. It's natural to feel anger and to wish that the offenders would feel pain. If you don't feel sickened by this, I believe you would have to be completely apathetic. Nobody should be trying to take the moral high ground here. There are people out there who have completely lost every shred of humanity...and these criminals are of that sort.


Some people realise that the justice system is more important then the emotional whims at the sight of such injustice.

Feeling emotions is different from being a slave to your emotions.


I can feel angry about this story but i can control myself and understand that violent payback is not what is called for here.

The difference as such isn't between one side feeling and another not. It's one side being dominated by their emotions and another remaining in control of themselves despite their emotions.


Like I said before this is true. I feel that retribution would be justice but I understand that if we give in to that, society would crumble. This would be why people are talking so violently on here, because it is merely that. Talking. Letting out the completely justified rage we feel.

Society would not crumble because of the death penalty. I'm not sure if you meant to imply such but you certainly weren't careful not to. These people need to be put on trial, only so that they can be proven guilty, on the off-chance that such proof isn't possible and they should be presumed innocent like everyone else, and to insure that the executioner himself would not be committing the first crime of taking an innocent life. The concept of 'innocent until proven guilty' is essential to society. The concept of 'mercy before justice' is not. There is plenty to be gained from ending these people's lives, and perhaps more importantly plenty to lose in paying to keep them alive in a cell. They're not worth it.
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December 09 2011 20:35 GMT
#299
Stories like these make me support the death penalty.
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United States219 Posts
December 09 2011 20:35 GMT
#300
Does anyone know the reason behind these murders? Like I understand some people are fucked up, but like there MUST be some reason or something that triggered them into doing this.... You just don't randomly rape and torture a couple on the street. The murderers didn't have any mental problems, so i'm guessing they had motives behind their actions. I'd love to know them.
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